6MT CLS - Is this going to be a treasure?
#41
I am not sure about resale value, but it might be a hard to find car for people who want it. Its like the Legend 6/MT. A friend of mine is looking for it for more than a year now, and no luck.
It is a car appreciated by a minority, thats for sure. I am part of that minority.
It is a car appreciated by a minority, thats for sure. I am part of that minority.
#42
Originally Posted by zamo
I am not sure about resale value, but it might be a hard to find car for people who want it. Its like the Legend 6/MT. A friend of mine is looking for it for more than a year now, and no luck.
It is a car appreciated by a minority, thats for sure. I am part of that minority.
It is a car appreciated by a minority, thats for sure. I am part of that minority.
Time will tell...
#45
Yes, it has a crappy initial resale value now but no one knows how it will be a few years down the road. Once a car gets down to about 50% of it's original value, the depreciation curve starts to level off. There is no way the CLS can continue on it's current depreciation curve.
A discontinued car (and a coupe to boot) is going to have a big depreciation curve in the beginning. Once it gets down into the low teens ($10-12K) I think it'll sit there for awhile.
A discontinued car (and a coupe to boot) is going to have a big depreciation curve in the beginning. Once it gets down into the low teens ($10-12K) I think it'll sit there for awhile.
#46
Originally Posted by Zapata
Siggy was talking about difference in Private V. Dealer trade-in. Dealer will screw you no matter what you have.....could drive in with a ferrari f50 and they'd be like, " I"ll have a tough time moving this...."
There is plenty of cars in the market now that are better than the CLS... and they will will be available used then...
I don't disagree there will be some select folks looking for 6MT cls in the future. But they won't be a golden nugget for the seller.
#47
I dunno bout you guys but I'm a lil pissed that I see people selling used 03 Rsx's anywhere from $19-22K and you guys are tellin me the resale value on the CLS is just 2-3K above the rsx? I'm depressed.
#52
Pjonkheer,
Sorry I couldn't chime in earlier.... shopping for a Ferrari soaks up soooo much of my time.
Anywho... i totally agree... the CL-6 6MT is gunna rise to the "hard to find" ranks of the Legend 6MT, and the Infiniti I30 5MT and the Saab Viggen 6MT, and the '02/03 Nissan maxima SE 6MT (the last "decent" looking maxima w/ a potent engine and a stick)....
These will be those hard to find cars that people have read about ... have a buddy who has one etc.... let's face it .. the CL-6 6MT is pretty sweet import coupe w/ enough stock hp to the wheels to have a decent time. Yeah, it's FWD, but that could be part of it's appeal for people like pjonkheer that already have a monster RWD car in the garage, and need FWD w/ a little bit of a "kick" for the daily grind.
Resale value now is meaningless .. pjonkheer is referring to 5 years from now .. he clearly stated that.
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Sorry I couldn't chime in earlier.... shopping for a Ferrari soaks up soooo much of my time.
Anywho... i totally agree... the CL-6 6MT is gunna rise to the "hard to find" ranks of the Legend 6MT, and the Infiniti I30 5MT and the Saab Viggen 6MT, and the '02/03 Nissan maxima SE 6MT (the last "decent" looking maxima w/ a potent engine and a stick)....
These will be those hard to find cars that people have read about ... have a buddy who has one etc.... let's face it .. the CL-6 6MT is pretty sweet import coupe w/ enough stock hp to the wheels to have a decent time. Yeah, it's FWD, but that could be part of it's appeal for people like pjonkheer that already have a monster RWD car in the garage, and need FWD w/ a little bit of a "kick" for the daily grind.
Resale value now is meaningless .. pjonkheer is referring to 5 years from now .. he clearly stated that.
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#54
Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Not a chance in HELL!. The 6MT resale after 5 years will be about the same as a regular CLS. The CL is not a nich car. It's a mass produced low cost Acura that did not sell well. It's nice to think that 2700 or so 6 speeds mean something, but in realilty it doesn't mean anything. You will not get anymore in resale. In fact some dealers might take less money for a 6MT becasue sticks are harder to sell. The only way you will get more money is selling to a person who knows about the car & the 2700 produced. Face it, the general public is more then less informed when it comes to cars. I don't think your average buyer, or dealer for that matter will know, or care "only" 2700 6mt's were made. They will care what they can sell the car for.
Sticks normally do not sell well. Coupes do not have good resale either. Combine the two and you're not looking at anything special here. Like he said... it's a mass produced entry level car.... so unless you have 12 miles on the car and hold it for the next 60 years you probably won't see any return on it. I mean, the resale on the car sucks now... and it's only going to get worse.
The problem is that not many people were intersted in this car in the first place, and as time goes on and technology and "bang/HP for the buck" increases... the CL is going to get left behind. I mean, the Z is known as a collectors car... however, in this world of mass production even it will have a hard time 5-10 years down the road....
I'm also not sure that the Legend argument holds up here. That car was assembled in Japan and if I remember correctly, was NOT based on the Accord platform. Now, all CLs are based on the Accord and are built in the US, so that also hurts it b/c the more you dissect it, the less unique it becomes.
#56
Originally Posted by darrinb
with only 2700 made it could have some value, i could see it becoming a collector like a manual legend
The dealer offered me 7,800 for my 91 Legend Coupe in trade.
They told me it was less valuable because it was stick.
I ended up selling it privately for 11,500 because I found someone looking specifically for a manual.
The same will be true for the 6-Speed CL-S in a few years.
Shawn S
#57
Originally Posted by pjonkheer
Isn't the 03 6-speed CLS going to be a treasure years to come from now?
I think this car will be as rare of a good find or even better than the 6-speed Legend was. I know that is a bold statement, but people will kill for this car in inside of 5 years from now.
I think this car will be as rare of a good find or even better than the 6-speed Legend was. I know that is a bold statement, but people will kill for this car in inside of 5 years from now.
#58
LOL.... you guys, you guys... I have to partially agreed with Fuzzy and Shawn.... but from first hand experince I can tell you that I will sell this car to a private buyer at a cost that will make your head spin.. I got 11k miles on her and she is 2 yrs old.. .. last car I sold privately, I walked away with 4500.00 more than what book value was... Ask anyone that knows me, my autos are spotless... It pays off to be neat and clean.... all you got to do is find the right buyer, they are out there....
#59
Originally Posted by juniorbean
The problem is that not many people were intersted in this car in the first place, and as time goes on and technology and "bang/HP for the buck" increases... the CL is going to get left behind. .
#61
Originally Posted by Smitty
from first hand experince I can tell you that I will sell this car to a private buyer at a cost that will make your head spin.. I got 11k miles on her and she is 2 yrs old.. .. last car I sold privately, I walked away with 4500.00 more than what book value was... Ask anyone that knows me, my autos are spotless... It pays off to be neat and clean.... all you got to do is find the right buyer, they are out there....
When I sold it, my Legend was 8+ Years old, had 110,000 miles, and it still looked better then most cars that were 2-3 years old at the time.
My current plan is to drive the CL-S for four more years.
I’ve had it for over TWO already and it only has 18,000 miles.
In the spring of 2008, I’ll be advertising a 2003 with about 55 to 60 thousand on the clock.
All mods will be staying on the car.
It will also have a year left on the 7-75,000 extended warranty.
I expect to get significantly more then a 2003 stock Auto will be selling for at the time.
I just hope Acura, Lexus, BMW or someone else is making a car that fits my needs at that time.
If not, I’ll keep it and run it to 100K.
Shawn S
#62
Originally Posted by Shawn S
In the spring of 2008, I’ll be advertising a 2003 with about 55 to 60 thousand on the clock.
All mods will be staying on the car.
It will also have a year left on the 7-75,000 extended warranty.
I expect to get significantly more then a 2003 stock Auto will be selling for at the time.
All mods will be staying on the car.
It will also have a year left on the 7-75,000 extended warranty.
I expect to get significantly more then a 2003 stock Auto will be selling for at the time.
With that... I'm under the opinion, that all things the same the 6spd will not carry a higher premium than the auto.
Now if you start folding in "well kept cars" and "existing warranties", all bets are off.
Edit: typos
#63
Originally Posted by 2003type-s6
Most people don't even know what the CL is now, nevermind 5 years from now. To a small niche, people will look for it like the legend.
Now, a car like this may have some significant value over the next 5-10 years: http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/sh...hreadid=158560
#64
I looked for a year for a 6 speed Legend Coupe, the few I found were very high miles and far away. I settled on a certified 1995 automatic the dealer had with 35k miles. I really wanted a shifter so I traded in when the 6 speed CL came out. I got $10k trade-in and dealer resold it in 2 days, they were asking $15k. It had about 80k miles. If it was a shifter I'd probably still be driving a Legend.
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