Hello,

I was talking with a good friend of mine the other day who is an 04 TL owner and we realized something.

Isn't the 03 6-speed CLS going to be a treasure years to come from now? I mean, how many were made? 10k at most? I would absolutely love to have one as my 2nd car as an S2K is the primary.

I think this car will be as rare of a good find or even better than the 6-speed Legend was. I know that is a bold statement, but people will kill for this car in inside of 5 years from now.

Ok, I'm done now.

 

There were only 2700 made, but I doubt its going to be a collectable. The CL didn't sell to well and I doubt intrest for it is gonna peak years from now.

 

You're right that's a very bold statement.

I don't think resale is doing all that well on either the 5at or 6mt. I doubt it's gonna compare much in the future to the way the Legend does now.

 

2700 made?!?!?! Wow, I had no idea.

I disagree, this car is going to have great resale value because there are going to be tons of people who want a fun to drive FWD car with a good horepower rating and oh yeah...a 6MT.

Maybe not on the Legend level, but it's going to be up there.

 

I'm aware that it's not definitive but, how's the resale now versus the auto??

 

I think your ass is sucking some serious wind.

 

What does that mean??? Excuse my ignorance.

 

:sqnteek:

resale value is already dropping fast

it aint gonna be worth shit

 

You might get 10$ more for the auto that the 6speed. I am not sure, but I would not be surprised by the low numbers.

 

I think it'll be considered a 'special' car by the handful of us that like it. In the big market though, it'll be forgotten.

You might want to check out this thread.


Oh, and I still my CL-S.

 

No.

 

KBB Private Party Sales: (for whatever its worth)


2003 Acura CL Type S, Non Navi, 6 M/T, 15,000mi, Good Condition:

- $22,225


2003 Acura CL Type S, Non Navi, 5 A/T, 15,000mi, Good Condition:

- $22,225


KBB Dealer Sales:


2003 Acura CL Type S, Non Navi, 6 M/T, 15,000mi,

- $26,490


2003 Acura CL Type S, Non Navi, 5 A/T, 15,000mi,

- $26,490

 

I'm just fucking with you, man.

 

MT value right now will be about the same as the AT but that's because it is listed as an 03....it's only 04 right now. Even though the car came out in 02. Give it another year or so and you'll see the AT value drops and the MT value holds steady.

 

In your opinion, correct?

 

Don't worry, he just needs to make comments like that so he doesn't feel alone...haha

I think it is a little far fetched but who knows. How did the legend coupe sell back in the day? And who knows, maybe in a few years the CLS6 will be worth more (ie hold its value) better than its auto counterpart. I wouldn't mind having one down the line as a beater (a nice one at that).

 

Yes totally. But you'll see the 6MT will hold. Especially for those people in the NE.

 

I had 2 Legend Coupes, an original one (88) and the last one (95).
I wonder how far you can compare the CL to the Legend. part of the Legend appeal is that the 95 Coupe was $40-43k, so there was some pent up demand for cheaper, used ones later.

Also, there was an 8 year drought from Acura after they dropped the Legend Coupes in 1995. Not until the G2 CLS did they make anything comparable, and really not til 2003 with the 6 speed CLS. Plus the Legend looked sportier and was from Japan, not Ohio.

I think the CLS 6 speed will definitely have a market but I don't think Acura will wait 8 years, til 2011 to offer another 6 cylinder 6 speed coupe! Plus now you can nab a Honda Accord coupe with the same 6 cylinder 6 speed setup. Only other Honda/Acura to offer this before the Legend was the NSX!

PS- I love driving the CLS 6 speed, I've had 2!

 

riiight, it already has crappy resale value.

 

refering the 6MT....not the AT

 

yes, i can read...

I know this, and it has the same value... not like you get $2k more for having a 6MT on an 03.

 

Wow, I'm getting thrashed here. At least some people are agreeing to some degree.

At any rate, I still feel this car will be a diamond in the rough 5 years from now and the value will outperform the AT quite noticeably.

 

5 years from now the car will be worth 50% of what it is now (if that). So even a $500 difference would be considerable percentage then. This is a moot point your arguing.

With all of the other cars comming out now, the CLS will be pretty much forgotten... unless Acura comes out with another coupe...

The G35 owns the market right now... and will be the car to buy in 5 years used.

 

Not a chance in HELL!. The 6MT resale after 5 years will be about the same as a regular CLS. The CL is not a nich car. It's a mass produced low cost Acura that did not sell well. It's nice to think that 2700 or so 6 speeds mean something, but in realilty it doesn't mean anything. You will not get anymore in resale. In fact some dealers might take less money for a 6MT becasue sticks are harder to sell. The only way you will get more money is selling to a person who knows about the car & the 2700 produced. Face it, the general public is more then less informed when it comes to cars. I don't think your average buyer, or dealer for that matter will know, or care "only" 2700 6mt's were made. They will care what they can sell the car for.

 

Zapata- why is the NE special to the CLS over other areas??

Values always do drop, and have dropped on the CLS, but I would have paid even more for mine (both were slightly used), they are great. I don't know why more people don't want them.
I think the looks are not 'trendy' or flashy enough for a sports coupe for most 'amateur' car buyers!
Acura gave up too early on the CL, look how long the Prelude hung on with low sales for a lot of the last few years. It seems Acura wanted to put all their resources into the new TSX and TL. People shy away from buying a car if it is discontinued.

 

If you look at it this way,
Acura killed the CL when they made the RSX-s. Its basically the same except for the smaler engine. But its more affordable and its a luxury 2dr coupe. Also the CL could not compete with the Accord. I mean you get basically the same car for less. You have to look at the big picture. People see a car for the the features. They don't see cars with less or more hp. Besides most of the people that could afford a CL didn't want a 6mt. Oh and that whole resale thing, well we had a 02 CL-s auto with like 22K miles and it sold for 14

 

Siggy, Fuzzy, 123456Speed:

It's easy to trash the CLS because of the unfulfilled expectations.

I must disagree with all of you. RIGHT now you the price difference will be little. AT value sux and will sux partially because of the other cars available but also because of the tranny issue.

MT has no issues whatsoever. Other than the tranny issues the CLS has no issues at all. Strong engine, nice interior, good MPG, and the MT is great.


Also, the same people who were interested in the legend are the same people who will likely be interested in the 6MT.

Now everybody keeps refering to selling to the dealership.....lol. WHY????? I'll sell my 6MT privately and get 2-3k more...EASILY.


Finally, it's FWD. As much crap as hardcore RWD crowd talks majority of people don't want to put up with issues of bad weather and RWD. I live in an area where we get 4 solid season in which we get the extremes.

 

because FWD > RWD in the snow

 

gotta disagree. RSXS buyer and CLS buyer are TWO different market segments.
CLS and RSXS are two completely different cars.

 

if it's anything like the 6 speed legends it'll be a treasure to some

 

I dont agree with Zapata often but, he hit this one on the head. I cant picture ANY crossshopping between the CL and RSX. It'd be like deciding between the Infiniti G35S and G20t.

 

I didn't trash the CLS.

But the car won't be worth anything significantly more with the 6MT. Maybe to a few select people, but in terms of market value ... no. And as I stated before, 5 years from now $500 will be a large difference between a 5AT and 6MT as the car will then be worth 50% of what it is now... So it's really a moot point.

$2k difference 5 years from now?!? I dont see it happening... the legend was a car that had good sales/market. Guess we'll find out.

 

My 6speed is a treasure to me now. I have no idea what the future value will be, and it does not concern me. Strange things happen in the used car marketplace that make cheap and ugly cars worth a lot of money to some people (subaru brat, for example, look on e-bay) and very attractive cars worth very little. I keep my cars for a long time, after choosing one carefully thats suits me, and what it is worth after ten years and 150,000 miles is not a very big issue. If the cl-s 6speed is valuable ten years from now, great, if I just get a good price on trade-in, that is fine too. For those of you that must have a new car every three years, I understand your concern. But if you sell your cls 6speed cheap, someone else who appreciates good performance, looks, and some practicality will benefit. Those who can only afford to by used cars to drive something nice will appreciate your loss. I bought mine new new, I like it very much, and I really don't care how much it is worth to anyone else.

 

I could care less about the resale value. I don't plan on getting anything out of this car in about three years when I decide (or not) to move on. No one wants an experiment vehicle.

 

Wait a couple of years and scoop them up at great prices, then wait a while. Who would have ever thought a 70 Dodge Superbird with a 426 Hemi, bench seat would be worth over a 100 g-ters now. In the meantime, I love this ride.

 

I'll take it

 

Siggy was talking about difference in Private V. Dealer trade-in. Dealer will screw you no matter what you have.....could drive in with a ferrari f50 and they'd be like, " I"ll have a tough time moving this...."

 

well when i was car shopping back a few months ago, i considering many cars... including many competitors to the CL-S including the G35 coupe. The major reason why i chose the CL-S was because it was FWD and where i go to school there's an insane amount of snow. I'm trading in my 2001 CL-S, and i considered going with the G35x. But my short experience (two months) with the CL-S was so enjoyable I cant seem to be able to convince myself to go for the 4 door G35x. as such i am getting a 6MT CL-S.

The CL-S is a highly underrated car, and i'm sure many people in this forum will agree. Perhaps in the future this will be recognized and this might give it a collector's value, but i seem to doubt that. I guess we are the few lucky ones who were able to truly appreciate such a fine piece of automotive machinery

 

Regardless if the '03 CLS 6MT becomes a collectible or not, I'm going to keep it for a long time... it's a keeper IMHO...

 

Oh god this new format looks like a bunch of new jumping wiggling things are gonna be all over.
Also, I wasn't trashing the CL at all, just don't think the conditions are the same after dropping the CL as after they dropped the Legend in 95.
And ditto, whoever thinks the CLS and the RSX are in the same market does not understand the Legend/CL coupe market at all. I'd rather get a used Prelude or even an Accord coupe than an RSX, , please. The RSX is a sporty Civic.