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Old 05-22-2007 | 09:51 AM
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6 Speeds with XS Power headers???

Are these a good investment for 6 speeds? What are some of you with these and like an intake running right now? I am looking to get one real quick so i can try to have my car running at least 13.9 wit ice box, crank pulley and the header by next month. I know comptech is better, but i wanna see what these can do first.
Old 05-22-2007 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
Are these a good investment for 6 speeds? What are some of you with these and like an intake running right now? I am looking to get one real quick so i can try to have my car running at least 13.9 wit ice box, crank pulley and the header by next month. I know comptech is better, but i wanna see what these can do first.

With tires and a decent driver you should be able to run that already.
Old 05-22-2007 | 10:33 AM
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just do a search on xs in this forum and you'll get a thousand threads with good info...from what i've heard...the gains are the same as the comptech but some people claim problems with the way they are manufactured compared to the comptech...but you get what you pay for...i'm going to get a pair myself just waiting for money to be right...
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Investment...hardly. Comptech headers are an investment, these are less than $100 bucks. If you dont like em, cut your losses and move on.
Old 05-22-2007 | 11:25 AM
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one problem with the xs headers is the hardware the other is the gasket and the other which hasnt been proven yet is a leaky flex pipe. Even with these problems I would still go with the XS over comptech.

to fix problems
1. buy new harware (at most $20)
2. gaskets ( at most $25)
3. new flex pipe and welded (at most $50)

SO you buy the xs ($135 shipped) and spend extra $100. For $235 you have a set that is just as good as comptech.

If you couldnt tell this is what I am doing.
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Old 05-22-2007 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
one problem with the xs headers is the hardware the other is the gasket and the other which hasnt been proven yet is a leaky flex pipe. Even with these problems I would still go with the XS over comptech.

to fix problems
1. buy new harware (at most $20)
2. gaskets ( at most $25)
3. new flex pipe and welded (at most $50)

SO you buy the xs ($135 shipped) and spend extra $100. For $235 you have a set that is just as good as comptech.

If you couldnt tell this is what I am doing.
3.
Leaky flex pipe has been proven, although it's probably hit or miss with all the different XS headers out there. I patched mine up with some exhaust wrap and hose clamps. I may end up just replacing the flex pipe later on down the line. 13.9 is attainable. I ran a 14.4 and that's on a worn clutch, leaky flex pipe and a #2 cylinder misfire. I'll be going later on this summer after everything is fixed...
Old 05-22-2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
one problem with the xs headers is the hardware the other is the gasket and the other which hasnt been proven yet is a leaky flex pipe. Even with these problems I would still go with the XS over comptech.

to fix problems
1. buy new harware (at most $20)
2. gaskets ( at most $25)
3. new flex pipe and welded (at most $50)

SO you buy the xs ($135 shipped) and spend extra $100. For $235 you have a set that is just as good as comptech.

If you couldnt tell this is what I am doing.
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hard ware shouldnt cost more than 3 bucks.

gaskets arent needed. reuse the stock manifold gaskets and the O ring gaskets that come with the kit
not all flexpipes have issues.


I have over 30k on mine now trouble free
Old 05-22-2007 | 01:56 PM
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wow 14.4, problem may be more than the worn clutch.

Originally Posted by CL-Future
Leaky flex pipe has been proven, although it's probably hit or miss with all the different XS headers out there. I patched mine up with some exhaust wrap and hose clamps. I may end up just replacing the flex pipe later on down the line. 13.9 is attainable. I ran a 14.4 and that's on a worn clutch, leaky flex pipe and a #2 cylinder misfire. I'll be going later on this summer after everything is fixed...
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
wow 14.4, problem may be more than the worn clutch.

Why do you say that? 14.4 is respectable for this car.
Old 05-23-2007 | 12:04 AM
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sorry to hijack, but how do you know if the flexpipe is leaking? or is it one of those "you'd know if it was leaking" things?
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some people have just found that the header is a littly louder then it should be. sort of sounds like a leaky gasket.
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Investment...hardly. Comptech headers are an investment, these are less than $100 bucks. If you dont like em, cut your losses and move on.

Actually, an investment indicates that you will likely make money on the deal. Buying $1000 headers does not increase the value of your car by $1500. No matter what you put on your car it is an expense, period. Unless you have a collectable car that increases in value every year (none of ours do) then any money you pour into your car you should consider it shot out of the tailpipe. Look at all the people on this forum that have pumped $10K into their car, then they try to sell it and can barely get book value on it. If you can cut your expenses by 1/10th by buying the XS headers over the Comptech then that is managing your expenses wisely.
Old 05-23-2007 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
some people have just found that the header is a littly louder then it should be. sort of sounds like a leaky gasket.
Exactly, whenever I got on the gas no matter the gear, it sounded like I was letting air out of a tire.
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^^ I hope its the flexpipe. Ill go see if I can get a new one welded on this weekend.
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I have had XS for a few months now. They have been great for power and gase mileage, but I have to investigate the leaking air sound. I may just get some hi temp silcon and apply to the flex pipe and see if that help. If it does I may look at just replacing the flex pipe, but overall been really happy with my $145 purchase. The gas mileage has almost paid for these headers.
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14.4 with all those mods? There is a guy out here near us that was running 14.2 with just AEM intake consistant like2 years ago. I have the video if anyone wants to host it. Then there is another guy here near us that I know that was running like 14.1 with just removing his resonator, he posted it last year.

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Why do you say that? 14.4 is respectable for this car.
Old 05-23-2007 | 01:43 PM
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The difference between 14.4 and 14.2 is nothing.

And he said he had a bad clutch. That will kill your times.

I had a slipping clutch and tires on my supercharged 6-speed and I only ran 14.1 I think but with a trap speed of over 108mph.
Old 05-23-2007 | 01:44 PM
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I guess so Mr. Steve


Originally Posted by mrsteve
The difference between 14.4 and 14.2 is nothing.

And he said he had a bad clutch. That will kill your times.

I had a slipping clutch and tires on my supercharged 6-speed and I only ran 14.1 I think but with a trap speed of over 108mph.
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Originally Posted by silvervtec96
I have had XS for a few months now. They have been great for power and gase mileage, but I have to investigate the leaking air sound. I may just get some hi temp silcon and apply to the flex pipe and see if that help. If it does I may look at just replacing the flex pipe, but overall been really happy with my $145 purchase. The gas mileage has almost paid for these headers.

If you go to the other thread (***XS Power Header Owner***)we are starting to diagnose the problem. I think a new multi-layer flexpipe can be welded in for around 30-40 bucks.
Old 05-23-2007 | 01:53 PM
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damn, i didn't know that so many of you guys had these headers
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^^ They are very good as far as build quality, performance, and looks..but there is a hiss we are trying to remedy.
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where can one of thes new flexpipes be purchased? how was wrapping it?

wouldnt the heat from it melt the tape?
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I believe they are referring to exhaust wrap, and it won't melt.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
where can one of thes new flexpipes be purchased? how was wrapping it?

wouldnt the heat from it melt the tape?
Im checking with a muffler shop tonite, ill update you guys on it. I also found a guy that would sell us the right one onne I have dimensions. Check the other thread.
Old 05-23-2007 | 03:11 PM
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yea im going to heat wrap mines when I get it, along with replace all the bolts it comes with so I hopefully wont have any issues.

Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
where can one of thes new flexpipes be purchased? how was wrapping it?

wouldnt the heat from it melt the tape?
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Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
where can one of thes new flexpipes be purchased? how was wrapping it?

wouldnt the heat from it melt the tape?
The heat will melt the tape yes, but using exhaust wrap will work. Wrapping it was effective IMO, no more leaking sound...
Old 05-23-2007 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CL-Future
The heat will melt the tape yes, but using exhaust wrap will work. Wrapping it was effective IMO, no more leaking sound...
Hey thanks for the input....cant have no annoying leaking noise when im cruising with my ladies friends. lol
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Originally Posted by CL-Future
The heat will melt the tape yes, but using exhaust wrap will work. Wrapping it was effective IMO, no more leaking sound...
I bought some wrap tonite, im going to attempt to fix it. The muffler shop said it was the flex pipe
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Originally Posted by o2cls
I bought some wrap tonite, im going to attempt to fix it. The muffler shop said it was the flex pipe
It did bring the hiss down quite a bit but it is still present. Im going to try a new flew pipe out.
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Originally Posted by o2cls
It did bring the hiss down quite a bit but it is still present. Im going to try a new flew pipe out.
Yeah I noticed mine a little bit but thought it was just the air going through the pipes. I'll probably replace mine eventually too...
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is the air swoosh sound really that annoying?

im FINALLY putting mine on today after months of procrastinating lol..
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Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
is the air swoosh sound really that annoying?

im FINALLY putting mine on today after months of procrastinating lol..

how did it go?
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Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
is the air swoosh sound really that annoying?

im FINALLY putting mine on today after months of procrastinating lol..

Yes, its that annoying, unless you dont mind your car souding like crap.
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Can someone tell me what size the flex pipe is on the XS headers. Diameter and length? I am looking to replace it with a new one the moment I get it.
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hmm how easy and how much would it be to replace it. I have my headers at home and was going to wrap it it with the heat wrap.
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go to a muffler shop and have them cut out the old one and put a new on in. Can you measure the length and the diameter.
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
go to a muffler shop and have them cut out the old one and put a new on in. Can you measure the length and the diameter.
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hey o2cls when are replacing the flexpipe if you have a shop do it can you have them tell you the pipe they used. and CLS6Speednupe I know you don't have yours installed yet So if you could get the measurments that would be awsome?
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Originally Posted by Kulrevon
hey o2cls when are replacing the flexpipe if you have a shop do it can you have them tell you the pipe they used. and CLS6Speednupe I know you don't have yours installed yet So if you could get the measurments that would be awsome?
sure if i can find something to measure it with. I dont have any common measurement instruments at home.


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