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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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3.5L 1/4 results

well dissapointed again...i cant catch a break weather wise...yesterday 40's today 60's mid 60's
r/t .724
60' 2.178
330 6.036
1/8 9.129@79.12
1000 11.818
1/4 14.050 @ 102.11
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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shouldnt mention that one of the runs i was ahead,then side by side to the 3/4 mark on the track with a C5,he ran me down right at the end.wish i had that on mpeg
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 12:07 AM
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still stock wheels? tire pressure? shift mode? TB?
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 12:09 AM
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Is everything working properly now?

Are you using water wetter?


I'd love to see if you could "borrow" a Gtech Competition from someone to get some accel vs time + torque / rpm / gear plots
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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still stock wheels? tire pressure? shift mode? TB?
stock wheels,played with the pressure but ran out of time,was at about 25 front and 75 rear,gate shift,whats TB?
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:24 AM
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whats TB?
I'm thinking it means Torque Braking.....

BTW, even though you're disappointed... nice times.... you're leaning me more and more towards the 3.5L upgrade. I'd love to do it but don't have money at this point.

For now I'll just live through you
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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I'm thinking it means Torque Braking.....

For now I'll just live through you
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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what happened w/your 60' time? I've seen you pull much better 60' than that.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 11:53 AM
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damn nice times type R, dont worry i know you'll get into the 13's in no time. do you still have on the cai and pulley's or did u take them off??
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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cai,no pulley
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 01:04 PM
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what happened w/your 60' time? I've seen you pull much better 60' than that.
it was too busy ,i didnt get enough runs to get the tire pressure where i needed it if i had 3 more passes i think i could have pulled it off
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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put the pully's on so u can get 13's.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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no shit, put the pulleys back on


and 75 psi in the rear joO crazy.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by mattg
and 75 psi in the rear joO crazy.
I'm beginning to think that the 7 key is too close to the 4 key on Steve's numeric keypad... :P
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 03:42 PM
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Very nice Steve, that is great to see and one hell of a trap. Keep the 3.5 rolling...
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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I'm beginning to think that the 7 key is too close to the 4 key on Steve's numeric keypad... :P
nope 75...im trying to take any amount of give out of the rear end as possible..tires act as bump stops...ill tell you what though after checking out my friends typeR koni yellows and urethane motor mounts i think that's what i need
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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nope 75...
Remind me to stand back a several yards if I am down in your area during a run...
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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damn good all motor trap speeds TypeR.....almost as fast as my 107....man i cant wait for new tires...hopefully i'll be trapping 110 now and in the low 13's....but who knows, you've definitely made me want to get the 3.5 upgrade this spring....also what else do you have besides the upgrade?
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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TypeR, what are you complaining about...that's awesome! Good Run...just keep trying, you'll break into the 13's.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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damn good all motor trap speeds TypeR.....almost as fast as my 107....man i cant wait for new tires...hopefully i'll be trapping 110 now and in the low 13's....but who knows, you've definitely made me want to get the 3.5 upgrade this spring....also what else do you have besides the upgrade?
hooking up will usually bring your trap down but your ET comes down too so it's all good..except in your case if it lets you spray sooner then it might go up
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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TypeR, what are you complaining about...that's awesome! Good Run...just keep trying, you'll break into the 13's.
thanks,it's tough to be so close to the 13 im after , and come away twice jilted...i take comfort in the fact that a trap like that, certain lends itself to the ability to go 13 and...brings some more credibility to being beside some of these fast cars ,that im not supposed to run with.granted ,it's usually just for the first half of the track,but it's fun while it lasts
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

Originally posted by typeR
well dissapointed again...i cant catch a break weather wise...yesterday 40's today 60's mid 60's
r/t .724
60' 2.178
330 6.036
1/8 9.129@79.12
1000 11.818
1/4 14.050 @ 102.11
Not bad but expect a lot more from a car with as many mods and money put into it. A 6spd CL-S stock can run low 14's high 13's might need a few mods to get your trap. Good luck breaking in to the 13's and keep all those race stories coming.

PS: For perspective.

A normally aspirated 2002 6spd max with just pulley, intake and exhaust has run 13.8
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=157778


A 2002 normally aspirated 2002 AUTO Maxima has run 13.9
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=165123

A normally aspirated 1997 5spd Maxima has run 13.9
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=157678


And you are beating C5 Vettes etc?? You can't even beat a lot four door normally aspirated Maximas. Better start video taping all your race "stories".
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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6spdream, you are a hatin son of a bitch. you hate on your own fuckin car. go fuckin buy a maxima then. i dont wanna hear your shit on this board, this aint the only thread where you bashin on the cl-s. u fuckin punk
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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Re: Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

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Not bad but expect a lot more from a car with as many mods and money put into it. A 6spd CL-S stock can run low 14's high 13's might need a few mods to get your trap. Good luck breaking in to the 13's and keep all those race stories coming.

And you are beating C5 Vettes etc?? You can't even beat a lot four door normally aspirated Maximas. Better start video taping all your race "stories".
Why is it the only posts from you are one's which debate a statement. Nothing you have stated provides one iota of value to the forum. Try to provide input which is useful to the masses if, and I stress IF, you own a CL-S6.

You seem to have a love for Nissan which is fine. But as shown in the below link you questioned my statements without reading the entire post:

Dyno Thread

I assume you are from the Toronto area based on your Location definition. This indicates to me that you have no clue what it is like to race in Florida. I would ask that you try to refrain from commenting until you evaluate all parameters. A good track day in your area would be 10 C (using your engineering units) with an RH of 60%. This amount to a dew point of about 3 C. At the same time in Florida you would have a temp of 27 C and about 80% RH. This is a dew point of about 23 C. The real contrast comes when the comparisons are made.

The above amounts to almost a 8% difference in power minimum; on a stock 260 HP engine this is over 20 HP. On a 300 HP engine this is 24 HP. That is enough to make a noticeable difference.

But all the numbers above are irrelevant as comparing times from one car at a different track in a different part of the country is a very amateur task. Most beginner racers know that unless the runs are done on the same day at the same track comparisons are moot. Where does that leave you??

I see you are very diligent in defending Nissan, why it is limited to that brand is unknown to me. If you do own a CL-S6 please go to the track and run your car to see what it can do. If you don't own a CL-S6 take your Nissan to the track and post numbers. But please do not post other Nissan owners’ times or knock CL-S owners times until you do something on your own.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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6spdream, you are a hatin son of a bitch. you hate on your own fuckin car. go fuckin buy a maxima then. i dont wanna hear your shit on this board, this aint the only thread where you bashin on the cl-s. u fuckin punk
I don't hate my car but am realistic about it. You can't hate on facts unless you are truly a hater.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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Why is it the only posts from you are one's which debate a statement. Nothing you have stated provides one iota of value to the forum. Try to provide input which is useful to the masses if, and I stress IF, you own a CL-S6.

You seem to have a love for Nissan which is fine. But as shown in the below link you questioned my statements without reading the entire post:

Dyno Thread

I assume you are from the Toronto area based on your Location definition. This indicates to me that you have no clue what it is like to race in Florida. I would ask that you try to refrain from commenting until you evaluate all parameters. A good track day in your area would be 10 C (using your engineering units) with an RH of 60%. This amount to a dew point of about 3 C. At the same time in Florida you would have a temp of 27 C and about 80% RH. This is a dew point of about 23 C. The real contrast comes when the comparisons are made.

The above amounts to almost a 8% difference in power minimum; on a stock 260 HP engine this is over 20 HP. On a 300 HP engine this is 24 HP. That is enough to make a noticeable difference.

But all the numbers above are irrelevant as comparing times from one car at a different track in a different part of the country is a very amateur task. Most beginner racers know that unless the runs are done on the same day at the same track comparisons are moot. Where does that leave you??

I see you are very diligent in defending Nissan, why it is limited to that brand is unknown to me. If you do own a CL-S6 please go to the track and run your car to see what it can do. If you don't own a CL-S6 take your Nissan to the track and post numbers. But please do not post other Nissan owners’ times or knock CL-S owners times until you do something on your own.
Blah blah blah. Run 13's then talk or video tape beating a C5 vette in a normally aspirated CL and then talk. Fact is fact TypeR has expensive mods and can't run in the 13's. He really needs to start taping all his race stories since he does so much of it.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

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Blah blah blah. Run 13's then talk or video tape beating a C5 vette in a normally aspirated CL and then talk. Fact is fact TypeR has expensive mods and can't run in the 13's. He really needs to start taping all his race stories since he does so much of it.
Spoken like a pathetic novice... That "blah blah blah" comment indicates your unwillingness to discuss the matters in a logical manner.

You try running with a 10% - 20% deficit out of the gate. No one goes to the south and expects record numbers, this is well known or do you not follow any sanctioned racing?? I am not endorsing typeR's numbers but I also know he hasn't been one to BS.

However, that brings me to the next point, your BS. Admit it that you own a Nissan and not a CL-S6. You came here to bullshit, nothing less, which I can accept provided you own up to the intentions.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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it seems that you guys want to personally attack someone with info about other car brands. especially Nissan seems to get you guys all rowdy. i dont think 6spdream attacked darrinb
personally. yet darrinb rubuttle to 6spdreams post was uncalled for. i dont know either guy, but 6spdreams post makes sense i mean this guy speant a good amount of money boreing his mottor. these times arent really respectable if you ask me.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

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Spoken like a pathetic novice... That "blah blah blah" comment indicates your unwillingness to discuss the matters in a logical manner.

You try running with a 10% - 20% deficit out of the gate. No one goes to the south and expects record numbers, this is well known or do you not follow any sanctioned racing?? I am not endorsing typeR's numbers but I also know he hasn't been one to BS.

However, that brings me to the next point, your BS. Admit it that you own a Nissan and not a CL-S6. You came here to bullshit, nothing less, which I can accept provided you own up to the intentions.
Sorry buddy but I own a 2k3 6spd CL-S. If the G35 was out when I was purchasing yes I would have bought a G35 6spd in a second. There is no question that the G is a much better car overall. No denying that!

PS If you took the time to read the link all those track times were done in the good ole USA with alll details regarding the weather. They were not run in the GTA.

Run 13's NA then talk. Or post videos. Period!
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

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Sorry buddy but I own a 2k3 6spd CL-S. If the G35 was out when I was purchasing yes I would have bought a G35 6spd in a second. There is no question that the G is a much better car overall. No denying that!

PS If you took the time to read the link all those track times were done in the good ole USA with alll details regarding the weather. They were not run in the GTA.

Run 13's NA then talk. Or post videos. Period!
Are you seventeen years old??

Based on your comments you defend only Nissan and no one else. Make your own conclusions on that matter...

Considering that 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles (about 160 km) of the US it makes sense that you do not understand the vastness of the country. I made my statements not to single out the GTA area to allow for an understanding of the climate differences. Do you realize that NYC is closer to Toronto than Naples, FL?? Heck, DC is closer to Toronto than West Palm, FL is to DC (assumption not actual).

Those Nissan runs were done in what is considered northern states. You ask for confirmation, I turn that around to you. Please provide one Nissan you support which has run a 14.2 or better that is in Florida??

Also, those Nissan's you supported did not trap at 102 in most cases. You seemed to have overlooked this as a matter of convenience or ignorance.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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wow...this thread has gotten away...anyone who doubts just come on down,we'll play for some money in the heat and humidity and see who does what..BTW my total cost in this cars mods not including tires is 4 grand...oh ya and to date only one CL6mt has gone 13 n/a and thats with all bolt ons and smaller wheels and drag radials...

also i dont beat C5's but i have been beside them at the half way point ,and it this one occasion slightly ahead at the half only to lose in the last 330'

also this night, if this puts any perspective on florida racing...a 00 GT with K$N ,x pipe,flowmasters,4.10's could not better 14.5
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

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Are you seventeen years old??

Based on your comments you defend only Nissan and no one else. Make your own conclusions on that matter...

Considering that 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles (about 160 km) of the US it makes sense that you do not understand the vastness of the country. I made my statements not to single out the GTA area to allow for an understanding of the climate differences. Do you realize that NYC is closer to Toronto than Naples, FL?? Heck, DC is closer to Toronto than West Palm, FL is to DC (assumption not actual).

Those Nissan runs were done in what is considered northern states. You ask for confirmation, I turn that around to you. Please provide one Nissan you support which has run a 14.2 or better that is in Florida??

Also, those Nissan's you supported did not trap at 102 in most cases. You seemed to have overlooked this as a matter of convenience or ignorance.

You want to talk about powerful Maximas?? Check the video section.

http://www.turbomaxima.com

PS. Hopefully TypeR puts more money into his car so he can run 13's. 102 is a great trap but still not 13's! With the heat down there he should have better 60' as well. Once he learns to drive his car properly he "should" be able to break into th 13's. Would have a hard time beating a stock 6spd Z or G35. Start modding the G and Z and forget about mr. typeR will be needing rice juice.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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wow...this thread has gotten away...anyone who doubts just come on down,we'll play for some money in the heat and humidity and see who does what..
Hey Steve, that guy just likes to start crap, nothing else. I doubt he has ever been to the track. So to make this interesting let's throw out the following wager:

I'll drive up to the north, maybe even Canada, and run my car. If I turn 13's 6spDream pays me $2500 US, if I fail I pay 6spDream $2500. Fair enough?? :P
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by typeR
wow...this thread has gotten away...anyone who doubts just come on down,we'll play for some money in the heat and humidity and see who does what..BTW my total cost in this cars mods not including tires is 4 grand...oh ya and to date only one CL6mt has gone 13 n/a and thats with all bolt ons and smaller wheels and drag radials...

also i dont beat C5's but i have been beside them at the half way point ,and it this one occasion slightly ahead at the half only to lose in the last 330'

also this night, if this puts any perspective on florida racing...a 00 GT with K$N ,x pipe,flowmasters,4.10's could not better 14.5
$4000US and still can't break into 13's? Whoa! Didn't realize it was that high.

The guy with the 2002 6spd FOUR Door Maxima that ran 13.8 with street tires on 17" rims only had about $1100 in mods. pulley, intake, y-pipe cat and cat back. Thats it folks!

PS A turbo for a Maxima including everything is about $4000 putting up to 370HP to the wheels ~450HP at the crank. Now that is a true vette killer including ZO6!
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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Hey Steve, that guy just likes to start crap, nothing else. I doubt he has ever been to the track. So to make this interesting let's throw out the following wager:

I'll drive up to the north, maybe even Canada, and run my car. If I turn 13's 6spDream pays me $2500 US, if I fail I pay 6spDream $2500. Fair enough?? :P
You would lose unless you got rice juice. Saw your dyno with all your mods. Sorry to hear about the poor results. That stock g35 put down more power didn't it?
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 3.5L 1/4 results

Originally posted by 6spDream
You want to talk about powerful Maximas?? Check the video section.

http://www.turbomaxima.com

PS. Hopefully TypeR puts more money into his car so he can run 13's. 102 is a great trap but still not 13's! With the heat down there he should have better 60' as well. Once he learns to drive his car properly he "should" be able to break into th 13's. Would have a hard time beating a stock 6spd Z or G35. Start modding the G and Z and forget about mr. typeR will be needing rice juice.
Again, riding the coattails of others...

Trap has nothing to do with ET; you obviously know nothing about vehicles and performance dynamics other than what you read in magazines. Warmer temps do not mean better short times, that is another overwhelming sign of your ignorance. This is not a linear equation.

But again, that is irrelevant. Unless you run at the same track on the same day comparisons are irrelevant. But you are a novice and do not know this.

I ran a 13.24@102 in my Typhoon, does that mean I am faster that typeR?? Based on his ET and trap I would lose in a rolling street race. Again, evaluate all of the numbers and circumstances before replying. You are only digging your hole deeper and making yourself look dumber.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by 6spDream
You would lose unless you got rice juice. Saw your dyno with all your mods. Sorry to hear about the poor results. That stock g35 put down more power didn't it?
Are you game or just talk?? How would I lose??

You obviously have a poor memory. The stock G35 made 225 HP and I made 247 HP. All my mods?? What did you read??

I am now beginning to think you are not a youngster but a bewildered older gent. The discussion is only two weeks ago and you already forgot.
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