soopa

What size tire should I get?

Prolly wanna go as small as possible to avoid rubbing right?

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PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fogs • Valentine 1 • Xephyr CAI

"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." -Albert Einstein

soopa

Im doing 19x8 with a +45 offset... think theyll rub with Comptech Springs?

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tw1112

Hey adam..did you ever check out this link?? I would help, but I dont know the stock tire size..

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

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JRock

I still can't believe you can fit 19s on a CL-S that has a suspension job (since that lowers it like an inch and a half, right?).

-J

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Rod

What wheels are you getting? I've also been thinking about getting 19s b/c I don't think spending all that moeny on wheels for just another inch is worth it. I think I'm going to go with Comptech springs too so let us know about any tire rub or other problems you encounter. And post pics!

The Colonel

Soopa, these big wheels will probably look cool, but they'll increase the overall diameter of the wheel/tire and you'll be slower accelerating as a result. Why do you want to make the car slower?

I recently put 225/45 x 17 Toyo Proxes T1S on my car along with the Comptech springs. The wheel/tire is slightly less in diameter, and I can feel it being a little quicker. I bet with what you're planning, you won't be able to break 7.0 0-60. Is that what you really want?

Kevin

MCHM3

you sure the 45 offset will fit...........slamcltypes has 19 inch c2's i think he had a 45 offset and he had to put a spacer in the front wheels his tires are 225 35 19

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Rod

I saw some 19x8 with a 50 offset, would that be better?

soopa

I'm gonna get these...



Axis Se7en
19 x 8.0
+45 offset.
28lbs in Silver.

Sleeper S already has them on his car in gunmetal gray. He said he had to roll the fenders a bit but he also has his car crazy low.





I dont really car too much about the added weight. The only time I race this car is by myself on the highway. heh.

If it trully slows me down I'll compensate with some headers.

I just hope they fit... I dont wanna roll my fenders.

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soopa

Hey... can someone photoshop Sleepers car with chrome on it??

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NOVAwhiteTypeS

I can do it in MS paint . man if you see those rims in person you be sweaten that shit like a mofo. Best rims ever on a cl. just like the DAZZ MATTZ. better than those BBS wanna be IMO.

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Rod

They look sweet, I like the silver much better. I also like the seven spoke design and I saw the Campionato SS7s on autocarparts.com listed as fitting on the CL-S in 18. I looked them up and they also come in 19x8 (48 offset).

Hopefully that worked, first time I try posting a pic on here.
They look nice and simple, but that's the look I'm going for, I don't want anything too flashy, but definitely something that doesn't look stock.
Does anyone know how much these weigh in 19"?
I'm also not into racing, so I'm not too worried about the weight, but I wouldn't want to hurt performance that much either.

soopa

I dont wanna spend $$$ for silver. I gotta have chrome.

Those wheels look pimp in chrome too though... look:



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[This message has been edited by soopa (edited 05-09-2001).]

Rod

Do they come in chrome or did he have them chromed? I had only seen them in silver.

And how Sleeper S' car dropped that you say it's crazy low? I don't want to roll my fenders or have any tire rub either. Do you know if he has any tire rub even after rolling the fenders?

NOVAwhiteTypeS

He's got coilover's and he had stock rims put on when I last met him last year, i think he said he had rubs when he went over a big bump.

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astro

adam, 28 POUNDS???!?!?!?

are you nuts...my rims weigh 14.5 pounds...you are going to kill your cornering ability and your acceleration...



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soopa

Arent the stock ones like 28lbs??

Either way... I think I will take anything that slows me down. lol

I dont need blistering speed... I dont race... ever.

Most I use the power for is to snap my head back on the highway.

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Dacat

Hey, if that's the case, what about 17x8 inch with 45 offset?


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soopa

But isnt that cuz he has his car grinding along on the ground?

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"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." -Albert Einstein

cmark

Soopa,
If money is no object and you can find them, take a look at the Advans Model 5. If you've seen the Yokohama Parada print ad in the mags, that's the wheel. I heard they're around 6-7 bills each but they look really nice.

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Brians_CLS

What Lowering kit did Sleeper S use on his ride??? How Low??? And those are 19x8's +45 offset??? Thanks for the info.

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ADAM_RENAMED

hey soopa, this is the other adam with the 19's, on 19x8 wheels, the best offset is +51 with the car being lowered. as far as the wheels go, the best combo with absolutely no rubbing is by far 235/35/19. Ive had them on my car for a long time. If you show this weekend to rose bowl, youll see what Im talking about. Oh by the way, when I said lowered, I meant anywhere from 1-1.5 inches.

EricL

The stock wheels weight about 24-26 lbs depending whose bathroom scale you believe.

You need to loose about 3-4 lbs (minimum) when going to a 18" wheel, just to not slow the car down (and that calc was done with a number of assumptions).

If you get a 19" wheel in the 28-30 lb range, you will be lucky to break 7 seconds to 60 (just a round number with summer coming), and the equivalent feeling will be like driving with a full-tank and 2 big passengers all the time.

The 8" wheel has another inch of width that needs to get divided-up somehow. So, if the offset stayed at the stock +55, there would be an extra .5" of wheel sticking out and .5" less room between the suspension and the inner wheel.

The lower the offset, the more the wheel sticks out and and will rub against the outer fender when lowered. The higher the offset, the more it will tend to rub against the control arm or strut.

Lower offset --> sticks out

Higher offset --> sits inside (possible suspension rub)

You might want to have a look at "someone" with the setup you want... The normal 8" offsets run about +48 -- you really should have a look first at a LOWERED car, and if you do it at a meet, make sure to have a few people get it and have the driver make a few hard rights and lefts in the car.

Also, look at the sidewalls of the tires -- I promised not to mention their name, but a little birdy said that a number of people who claimed to have "NO RUB EVER", had rub marks on their sidewalls of their lowered rides (17x8, 18x??, etc) with 235 rubber.

Buyer beware -- check out someone's car that looks right and check it out first if you plan on doing some serious lowering...

Once you find something that looks right, load the car up, take some hard turns, and check the sidewalls...

(just an opinion -- what do I know...)



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JRock

Right, Eric. I so don't believe you can fit 19s on our car if it's lowered at ALL and not have it rub something when turning hard, or just weighed down with 4 people.

I think I will go for 18s if I ever get aftermarket wheels, and hopefully have some performance mods to make up for any loss of performance from bigger wheels (unless the ones I like happen to be lighter).

-J

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soopa

hmm. thx for the info eric... your comments have me reconsidering.

Especially since you add something like 5lbs per wheel for the chrome on top of those 28lb wheels.

Either way... my biggest concern is rubbing... I cant have that. And from your comments it sounds like I will.

Sleeper... how much rubbing do you have? And how much is your car dropped?

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"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." -Albert Einstein

X3.2CLSX

Yea soopa, my biggest concern is rubbing also. I tried to fit my 20s on the car. NOO WAYYY!!! Haha....it would rub like a b*tch. Anyways, Im selling my 20s and as soon as I sell those rims, I want to get 19s but I hope i dont get any rubbing or anything like that. I wonder how much of a drop i can do to the car and get 19s.

The rims i want to get are either the racing hart M6 or Lowenhart BR5.



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Rod

So 20s rubbed even with the stock suspension? How wide? Offset?

X3.2CLSX

20x 8 i think. but the offset was 34 i believe....they came off from my explorer.

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Rod

34? I think even 17s would rub with that offset if they even fit.

X3.2CLSX

i will try again tmw.....i just put them on and didnt try to bother drive the car

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SilverBulletCLS_RENAMED

can someone tell me if I could put 235/40/19's on if I don't lower my car???

davo-cls

Nope, the diameter isn't correct. It's 235/35-19 or nothing. Everyone I've seen with 19's are going with Pirelli P7000's.

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NOVAwhiteTypeS

Since sleeper, is probably sleeping or something, I'll answer yo questions.

He has ground control adjustables and when he had It slammed I think it was like 2inches + but not more than 3.

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soopa

I should just buy Focal Wheels.

They all come in 7" widths with high offsets. heh

Too bad theyd prolly fall apart in 19" diameters.

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PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fogs • Valentine 1 • Xephyr CAI

"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity." -Albert Einstein

Rod

That's real low, I think we should be just fine then with Comptech springs and 235/35/19s on 19x8s, we just need to find the proper offset.

MCHM3

the spacer has nothing to do with how low the car is



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X3.2CLSX

OK guys,

I just got done rotating my tires myself. Anyways, while i was at it, i tried to put my 20s to fit on the car. Well it did fit, but my dad checked it out before i can take the jack out of the car and the rims were too far inside. My dad told me that if i take the jack out, the camber might puncture the tires. He also told me that i wont be able to make turns and that the tires might rub against the camber. So, i didnt bother to lower the car because i was afraid of puncturing my tires. By the way, i dont know what offset my rims were, but they were
255/35 20


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X3.2CLSX

OK guys,

I just got done rotating my tires myself. Anyways, while i was at it, i tried to put my 20s to fit on the car. Well it did fit, but my dad checked it out before i can take the jack out of the car and the rims were too far inside. My dad told me that if i take the jack out, the camber might puncture the tires. He also told me that i wont be able to make turns and that the tires might rub against the camber. So, i didnt bother to lower the car because i was afraid of puncturing my tires. By the way, i dont know what offset my rims were, but they were
255/35 20


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KavexTrax

Better late than neva haha Soop,
Are these 19's?

Yea i turned up the brightness/contrast
to show silver instead of gunmetal grey
I'm too lazy to chrome it.



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NOVAwhiteTypeS

Thanx man, I was wondering how it would look silver on my car. since I don't want to look EXACTLY like Sleepers.

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