03 CL-S 6spd vs. 01 Prelude w/"100 shot"
11-29-2005, 01:42 PM
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it smells like pwnage in here
11-29-2005, 01:44 PM
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I'm sorry you came here thinking you could pull the wool over our eyes. We have dozens of members here who really truly know what they are talking about. Thousands of trips down the quarter mile have been done by hundreds of members. There's 2 top trap speeds:
One is from a turbocharged CL-S making over 360whp: 12.9 @ 111 MPH
The other is from my old supercharged '02 CL-S making 295whp: 13.3 @ 108 MPH
You claim 233whp with just an intake; that is entirely possible and likely. However, 233whp isn't enough to get this car from 0-104 MPH in just 1,320'. 100 MPH, certainly. Even 101. But to reach 104 MPH you're going to need 260+ wheel horsepower which is not possible with the J32A2 and a simple cold air intake.
Same goes for the guy that claimed a drop in filter got him up to 107 MPH. You're going to need 290-310whp to reach that trap speed in this car. Again, a drop in filter in the J32A2 isn't capable of making those kinds of numbers. Mathmatically it isn't possible to (a) make that power and (b) run those trap speeds, with this kind of car at this weight, at a horsepower rating lower than what I've indicated.
Nice try, but we attempt to avoid people from coming in here with false claims such as yours. Stick around for a while, read up on the progress the members on this forum have made with this engine/car and you'll realize what I've been saying is true. Then come back and give us your real ET's.
One is from a turbocharged CL-S making over 360whp: 12.9 @ 111 MPH
The other is from my old supercharged '02 CL-S making 295whp: 13.3 @ 108 MPH
You claim 233whp with just an intake; that is entirely possible and likely. However, 233whp isn't enough to get this car from 0-104 MPH in just 1,320'. 100 MPH, certainly. Even 101. But to reach 104 MPH you're going to need 260+ wheel horsepower which is not possible with the J32A2 and a simple cold air intake.
Same goes for the guy that claimed a drop in filter got him up to 107 MPH. You're going to need 290-310whp to reach that trap speed in this car. Again, a drop in filter in the J32A2 isn't capable of making those kinds of numbers. Mathmatically it isn't possible to (a) make that power and (b) run those trap speeds, with this kind of car at this weight, at a horsepower rating lower than what I've indicated.
Nice try, but we attempt to avoid people from coming in here with false claims such as yours. Stick around for a while, read up on the progress the members on this forum have made with this engine/car and you'll realize what I've been saying is true. Then come back and give us your real ET's.
11-29-2005, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Sorry but the motor and transmission are not the same.
J32A2 in the CL-S (10.5:1 compression)
J32A3 in the 3rd Gen TL (11.0:1 compression)
That's the major difference, there are many, many, many others as well.
Also the flywheel in the TL is different. The clutch, pressure plate, synchros, gears, etc are the same.
J32A2 in the CL-S (10.5:1 compression)
J32A3 in the 3rd Gen TL (11.0:1 compression)
That's the major difference, there are many, many, many others as well.
Also the flywheel in the TL is different. The clutch, pressure plate, synchros, gears, etc are the same.
11-29-2005, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
yea but cam specs are the same, the inake manifold, and all internals are the same. hell, the heads are the same design as the CL-S heads, they just revised them.
Kinda contradicted yourself there?
How can they be the same design AND revised?
The engineers would need to design the revisions and thus they aren't the same design.
However, I believe they might be identical. I haven't seen anything saything they are different.
Just pointing out further flaws in your barely coherent ramblings
11-29-2005, 02:09 PM
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revised = redesigned w/ integrated exhaust manifolds.
nearly the same yet very different at the same time.
nearly the same yet very different at the same time.
11-29-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cocoa
I got my money on the Lude.....sorry Ayougo. Oh the sweet sound of ITB's in the H series.
even with a 125 shot ?) cocoa your a hard nut to pleaze. When you comin to TX man
11-29-2005, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
look at my car domain...... i also have owned 4 5th gen preludes, and the CL-s actually has the .5 sec quartermile advantage over the prelude... my CL-S is 6 speed. Car and driver rated it at 14.6@98.4mph, they rated prelude at 15.4@94mph.... you need to get your facts right. im not saying that preludes are slow... i know exactly how fast they are... but the CL-S actually has a quicker gear ratio than the lude.... and it has LSD.... is your cl an automatic???? there is a huge difference... i have owned both...
11-30-2005, 08:53 PM
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12-01-2005, 05:57 PM
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i atleast wanna get some comment in...
oh ya allmotorpnly and josh...i got nipples wanna milk me?
oh and mr steve 106 trap with 257 whp has been done
oh ya allmotorpnly and josh...i got nipples wanna milk me?
oh and mr steve 106 trap with 257 whp has been done
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