03 CL-S 6spd vs. 01 Prelude w/"100 shot"
11-28-2005, 03:16 PM
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dude, mabye you didnt here me, I said a Cl-S would get Fucked up by a lude so dont bag on me. And a CL-S doesnt have 270 hp buddy, its 260 and thats at the fly. Learn your shit mang. "fake ass" wtf is that shit.
11-28-2005, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
I HAVE A BUILT PRELUDE you fake ass ghetto lookin basard... I will race anybody on here who runs all motor... and by the way... CL-S are geared the same as a prelude, plus one gear... dumbass... also.... preludes have 200 stock HP, CL-S has 270.... thats 70 more... not , that prelude has ghetto ass lambo doors and about 200 lbs of bondo on it from shaving everything... which makes the weight about evem. CL-S has a LSD... prelude doesnt. CL-S hits rev limiter at 7400.. prelude hits at 7900... big fucking deal.. look it up on car and driver. a stock CL-S 6 speed runs under 14.8@ 98 mph.... prelude runs 15.5@92mph.. and ive been to the track hundreds of times, and never seen a stock prelude run 15.5, so thats a good estimate. I have however seen a CL-S 6 speed run mid 14's with minor bolt ons... it takes a 100 shot on a prelude to even get close to mid 14's... and i know since I HAVE ONE!!!!! check my car domain... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2131124 ... my prelude put down over 275 whp... thats about 315 at the flywheel... a stock prelude with I/H/E and a 100 shot will put down 255whp MAYBE!!! preludes generally have 171whp stock... all the bolt ons you can imagine will ony add about 10 whp....thats about 181... plus a 100 shot that is really about 70 at the wheels makes it about 250... tops... and thats if it is tuned right.. so quit talking and put your money where your mouth is.... wheres your car anyway?? what the hell do you drive???? i think i'll sell my cars and buy 15 of yours you poor ass ghetto motherfucker... grow up, pull your pants up... and go to school, and quit being so damn ignorant.. you make americans look bad...
Poor ass ? are you fucking retarded ? i spent more money on my car this last month than your fucking downpayment on your CL-S. I drive a Cl mother fucker
Paint job alone is worth more than 1/4 of your Cl-S cost !!Im not going to mention the motor work ive spent countless $ on either.
"and go to school, and quit being so damn ignorant.. you make americans look bad." WTF ? Im more american than your white ass.
Dont fuck with me man, ill run your Cl-S Into the ground ( 14.8
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11-28-2005, 04:45 PM
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This guy is a retard and should be hit with a tack hammer, preludes and cl's are not geared the same anyone who owns a prelude and cant run better than a 15.5 should not own it, if that is even his prelude on car domain he has a bunch of parts listed on there that do not exist if he wants to look at a real JDM prelude like the one I own he can look at mine and stop posing and those are not mugen side skirts and that is not a real mugen front bumper and only girls drive crystal metalic blue preludes.
11-28-2005, 05:33 PM
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'98 Prelude, K&N drop in filter, suspension, other than that it was stock, 14.87@94mph rev limit at 8400
'03 CLS, K&N drop in filter, suspension, stock tires, 14.586@98mph,
with S03 14.228@104mph rev limit at 7200
'03 CLS, K&N drop in filter, suspension, stock tires, 14.586@98mph,
with S03 14.228@104mph rev limit at 7200
11-28-2005, 06:39 PM
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^ you're saying you trapped 104 in a CL-S w/ drop in filter and street radials?
11-28-2005, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
^ you're saying you trapped 104 in a CL-S w/ drop in filter and street radials?
11-28-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by zenkaij32
Yeah man I was pretty amazed too. But this was also the lowest trap speed that night, my highest trap speed was 107. Lowest trap speed but also the lowest ET.
11-28-2005, 09:04 PM
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something is definately off w/ those numbers. my car running every bolt on + 75 shot of nitrous only trapped 105.7
but that was good for a 13.25
but that was good for a 13.25
11-28-2005, 09:38 PM
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i wasn't quite done w/ this one Mikey.
11-29-2005, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mattg
something is definately off w/ those numbers. my car running every bolt on + 75 shot of nitrous only trapped 105.7
but that was good for a 13.25
but that was good for a 13.25
11-29-2005, 12:17 AM
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zex dry 75 shot. it worked great on my car.
I ran a 13.28 w/ no fuel management. and a 13.25 w/ the unichip
I ran a 13.28 w/ no fuel management. and a 13.25 w/ the unichip
11-29-2005, 01:53 AM
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Built F22b1 with H23 mani ( in the works at this momnet along with h22 TB and fuel rail as new add on's goes 9:5:1 comp i have to talk to shiney about nitrous aplications because as far as us 1st genners goes, he is the nitrous god, hes running a 100 dry shot !!! and his shit is still strong 
9:5:1 comp i have to talk to shiney about nitrous aplications because as far as us 1st genners goes, he is the nitrous god, hes running a 100 dry shot !!! and his shit is still strong
11-29-2005, 02:49 AM
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the fast ones are red ones right alex.. lol
ps. clman and i both run 125 shots dry, but i keep letting you say 100 so you dont go unconcious and stop breathing
ps. clman and i both run 125 shots dry, but i keep letting you say 100 so you dont go unconcious and stop breathing
11-29-2005, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike
ooooooooookkkkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy lots of 'stories' now. 
i can take a h22 200$ worth of nitrous parts, and a vafc2 and make that much hp..
guys a looser
11-29-2005, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ayougo
dude, mabye you didnt here me, I said a Cl-S would get Fucked up by a lude so dont bag on me. And a CL-S doesnt have 270 hp buddy, its 260 and thats at the fly. Learn your shit mang. "fake ass" wtf is that shit.
11-29-2005, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ayougo
Built F22b1 with H23 mani ( in the works at this momnet along with h22 TB and fuel rail as new add on's goes 9:5:1 comp i have to talk to shiney about nitrous aplications because as far as us 1st genners goes, he is the nitrous god, hes running a 100 dry shot !!! and his shit is still strong
9:5:1 comp i have to talk to shiney about nitrous aplications because as far as us 1st genners goes, he is the nitrous god, hes running a 100 dry shot !!! and his shit is still strong
11-29-2005, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
thats what makes life interesting! ......... the guy says he has a 4k motor and tranny set up a shit load of internals worth a fortune and makes 244 whp...
i can take a h22 200$ worth of nitrous parts, and a vafc2 and make that much hp..
guys a looser
i can take a h22 200$ worth of nitrous parts, and a vafc2 and make that much hp..
guys a looser
WTF shiney !!! how the HELL can you run a 125 shot on a stock f22b1 DRY for that matter and not blow your shit up ? Do you have any fuel managment at all ? I shit my pants when i heard you went with 125 shot Thats fucking awsome. Do you have aim ? You got me interested.
11-29-2005, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
whatever... i have a CL-S and a lude and i know which one is faster.... so what do you drive??? you still havent said.... and btw.... CL-S 6 speed is same engine/tranny combo as new TL's with 6-speed. the engines are identical. The CL-S has a different throttle body as well as ecu, which accounts for the added HP. The factory rates them all the same (260hp) but the 6 speed models are actually 270hp at the flywheel, still 73 hp more than a lude..... i know my shit... maybe you should learn yours.
why don't you answer my question about your miracle 13.8 @ 104?
11-29-2005, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mattg
you obviously don't know your shit, at all. most everything you have said in this thread is wrong, including the above.
why don't you answer my question about your miracle 13.8 @ 104?
why don't you answer my question about your miracle 13.8 @ 104?
11-29-2005, 11:21 AM
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ok, let me just tell you right now, the Cl-S auto has 260 hps to the fly. The SAME EXACT engine is in the 6 speed. The transmition doest corolate to more HPs to the fly. THUS< making the 6 speed the same dam HP as rated from the factory.
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Originally Posted by Joshimoto
1997-2001 Prelude Sh weighs 3020lbs and base weighs 2962lbs in 97 when it first came out it was the wolds fastest N/A front wheel drive car in the world, I have owend 7 Preludes total 4 5th gen, I will put my prelude with only bolt ons and minor head work against my CLS with its bolt ons any day and smoke it, this guy is either the king of BS or these other people did not know that they were racing him, stock to stock the prelude has about a half second Q/M advantage over the cls and on top end the cl dosent stand a chance.
11-29-2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mattg
you obviously don't know your shit, at all. most everything you have said in this thread is wrong, including the above.
why don't you answer my question about your miracle 13.8 @ 104?
why don't you answer my question about your miracle 13.8 @ 104?
if im wrong... then why does the new TL have 270hp with the same exact engine as the 6 speed CL-S.. the CL-S MT has a differrent throttle body and intake spacer than the auto CLS.... look at it...
11-29-2005, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ayougo
dont need it to walk you 
oh yea.. btw... you can keep your ricer paint jobs and i paid cash for my CL-S new, so i didnt have a downpayment.... i have about $15,000 in the engine of my prelude... so i doubt you have spent that much.. i know for that much i could have made more hp.... but i'm anti boost and i just like JDM parts (TODA, JUN, MUGEN, etc...)
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11-29-2005, 12:04 PM
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the 3rd gen TL motor and 2nd gen CL-S motor are not the same. for starters the TL has integrated exhaust manifolds, that can't be swapped out for headers. unlike the CL that has conventional exhaust manifolds.
11-29-2005, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
when i said good tires... i meant M/T ET drags that i run on my lude... and i also forgot to mention a few other bolt ons i have.... but its still virtually stock... I/H/B-pipe... chipped ECU (04 TL fuel map and ignition curve)...........
if im wrong... then why does the new TL have 270hp with the same exact engine as the 6 speed CL-S.. the CL-S MT has a differrent throttle body and intake spacer than the auto CLS.... look at it...
if im wrong... then why does the new TL have 270hp with the same exact engine as the 6 speed CL-S.. the CL-S MT has a differrent throttle body and intake spacer than the auto CLS.... look at it...
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Originally Posted by ayougo
WTF shiney !!! how the HELL can you run a 125 shot on a stock f22b1 DRY for that matter and not blow your shit up ? Do you have any fuel managment at all ? I shit my pants when i heard you went with 125 shot Thats fucking awsome. Do you have aim ? You got me interested.
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Originally Posted by mattg
the 3rd gen TL motor and 2nd gen CL-S motor are not the same. for starters the TL has integrated exhaust manifolds, that can't be swapped out for headers. unlike the CL that has conventional exhaust manifolds.
11-29-2005, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by zenkaij32
Yeah man I was pretty amazed too. But this was also the lowest trap speed that night, my highest trap speed was 107. Lowest trap speed but also the lowest ET.
Does your "drop in filter" look like this:
Otherwise you aren't coming close to 107 MPH.
11-29-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
ok lets meet up half way sometime this spring.... i live in GA.... so we can meet in mississippi.. im sure theres a track somewhere out there and we can run... ill bring my prelude and you can bring whatever the fuck you want... we can make it a acurazine track meet.... everyone is invited.... we can put some $$$ on it...
oh yea.. btw... you can keep your ricer paint jobs and i paid cash for my CL-S new, so i didnt have a downpayment.... i have about $15,000 in the engine of my prelude... so i doubt you have spent that much.. i know for that much i could have made more hp.... but i'm anti boost and i just like JDM parts (TODA, JUN, MUGEN, etc...)
oh yea.. btw... you can keep your ricer paint jobs and i paid cash for my CL-S new, so i didnt have a downpayment.... i have about $15,000 in the engine of my prelude... so i doubt you have spent that much.. i know for that much i could have made more hp.... but i'm anti boost and i just like JDM parts (TODA, JUN, MUGEN, etc...)
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
whatever... i have a CL-S and a lude and i know which one is faster.... so what do you drive??? you still havent said.... and btw.... CL-S 6 speed is same engine/tranny combo as new TL's with 6-speed. the engines are identical. The CL-S has a different throttle body as well as ecu, which accounts for the added HP. The factory rates them all the same (260hp) but the 6 speed models are actually 270hp at the flywheel, still 73 hp more than a lude..... i know my shit... maybe you should learn yours.
Sorry but the motor and transmission are not the same.
J32A2 in the CL-S (10.5:1 compression)
J32A3 in the 3rd Gen TL (11.0:1 compression)
That's the major difference, there are many, many, many others as well.
Also the flywheel in the TL is different.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Does your "drop in filter" look like this:
Otherwise you aren't coming close to 107 MPH.
Otherwise you aren't coming close to 107 MPH.
As far as the "meet half way" thing, i call up slips and see if they want to do a show around our race. Winner doesnt get money, they get eachothers cars. That will make things interesting. After i talk to shiney, ill be pushing nearly 300 whp so your lude will need a couple lenths to walk me.
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Originally Posted by allmotoronly
yea but cam specs are the same, the inake manifold, and all internals are the same. hell, the heads are the same design as the CL-S heads, they just revised them. I am aware of the integrated exhaust manifolds, but thats not a performance changing element of the engine... so the exhaust manifolds are integrated with the engine now... they still flow the same as the old ones..... I promise that when i had my ECU chipped to 04 TL spec... i made the exact same WHP with no other bolt ons as my buddy who has an 04.... maybe its the air down here.... the elevation is less than 400 ft above sea level, and its always cool and dense in the morning and at night...
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Different internals, the new manifolds do reduce performance (they are more restrictive), the motor can't be "chipped" to TL specifications.