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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:37 AM
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*AEM CAI update and PICS*

Well I got the car back from AEM and I only have one word to say about it,DAYUUMN. You notice a big difference especially in the mid to upper rpm range. During normal cruising the engine sounds stock, but when you gun it the motor comes alive you can feel and hear the difference.The kit is well made with appropriate mounting points to keep the unit from jiggling around. For those of you that have waited for the AEM, it has definitely been worth the wait.

Here are a couple of pics for your viewing pleasure.



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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:43 AM
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The big questions from me are....
Does it void warrenty..
How much $ for the intake and how much $ for installation.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:43 AM
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beautiful. hook us up! i'm poor.

what's the upper mount? the one with the orange plastic holding it in place? is it so the CAI moves with the engine when vtec kicks in?

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:46 AM
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it feels like christmas, and when the pics were loading it was the night before christmas, i coulndt wait to see

its funny, i dont even celebrate christmas.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:48 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by StonedCL:
The big questions from me are....
Does it void warrenty..
How much $ for the intake and how much $ for installation.
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For it to void the warranty the dealer would have to prove that the item in question was the cause or related to the mechanical failure. The cai is very easy to install and uninstall utilizing common hand tools. I'm not sure how much its going for cuz I got mine for free and installed for free. It was the final production test fit. I think the kit retails somewhere in the 2 hundred dollar range.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:51 AM
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I am getting it from a dealer by me for $185.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:52 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by so cal type s:
beautiful. hook us up! i'm poor.

what's the upper mount? the one with the orange plastic holding it in place? is it so the CAI moves with the engine when vtec kicks in?

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I would hook you up if I could .
Nah, the orange plastic is part of something else. its a wire harness plug, just looks like part of the cai. the bracket is in the last pic.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 01:55 AM
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That's PUUUURDY.

I like the RED color.
Is it anodized or painted ?

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 02:07 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
That's PUUUURDY.

I like the RED color.
Is it anodized or painted ?

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Thanks Shawn .
The red CAI would look great on your red beauty.

The pipe is powdercoated, very durable finish.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 02:19 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by blxmjx:
Thanks Shawn .
The red CAI would look great on your red beauty.

The pipe is powdercoated, very durable finish.
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Dude, that looks soooooo sweet. Does it come with all the extra hoses and connectors you need? I remember some people saying that certain CAIs come with the extras and others don't. Also, what filter does the AEM come with?

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 02:46 AM
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blxmjx,

You got Free Scratches too on your RED CAI.

But I will not bitch about this if it is the price of FREE CAI. Now run, and dyno your freakin CAI

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 03:50 AM
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were would the byepass valve go??????

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 04:02 AM
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it's a single pieced intake? If so, to answer the bypass question, you would have to cut the pipe. I really like the two piece intakes.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 04:58 AM
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I see where one of the hoses connect to the tube, but where does the other one... the main one that is in front. Does that connect somewhere in the back?
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 05:16 AM
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Even if something happened to your car after the installation of the CAI, you could always put the stock intake back to your car before you drive it to the dealership to claim for the warranty. A little sneaky, but thats the way to handle situation like that.


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by StonedCL:
The big questions from me are....
Does it void warrenty..
How much $ for the intake and how much $ for installation.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 05:42 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by buddha:
I see where one of the hoses connect to the tube, but where does the other one... the main one that is in front. Does that connect somewhere in the back?</font>
The one you see is the main tube connecting the pipe to the engine, the other connecting point would be directly to the filter. It seems that this is a one piece intake so that would be the case, if it were a two piece, then you would have another joining area right after the bend in the pipe.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 07:21 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by buddha:
I see where one of the hoses connect to the tube, but where does the other one... the main one that is in front. Does that connect somewhere in the back?</font>
I was thinking the same thing. If you notice in the second picture you can see the tube that goes from the engine to under the intake and back around to the back. Kinda intresting how they came to that design. I am sure there was a lot of testing involved. It is probably gonna be a bad ass intake.



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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
Originally posted by buddha:
I see where one of the hoses connect to the tube, but where does the other one... the main one that is in front. Does that connect somewhere in the back?</font>
I was thinking the same thing. If you notice in the second picture you can see the tube that goes from the engine to under the intake and back around to the back. Kind of interesting how they came to that design. I am sure there was a lot of testing involved. It is probably going to be a bad ass intake.


To use as a comparison, you can see with my intake where the stock tubing goes.





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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 12:03 PM
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surprised no one has asked.... but.... WHEN IS THE OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE!?!?!?
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 12:59 PM
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To answer some of your questions:

Technique-yes the kit comes with all the necessary mounting hardware shown. The kit comes with a K&N filter.

Nashua-those aren't scratches on the pipe they are reflections from the flash, i took the pics in the evening. The pipe is flawless and scratch-free. I am definitely going to take the car to get timed but i'm not going to get it re-dynoed. I posted results of the dyno a couple of days ago.

NYREP-You would need to cut the pipe to install the bypass valve.

tw1112-no its a one-piece intake and you would have to cut the pipe. There are two tubes connecting to the pipe. One in the rear which you guys can see and one on the underside of the pipe which is not visible.

buddha-i think i answered your question above. and yes i'm still selling my rims.

carlsonho-exactly thats what i would do. It's easy enough to do. Unless it was something totally unrelated, in that case i would just leave it as is.

webtoker-very good observations. it is a very well tested product. They come up with varying designs and dyno test every single one. The one that they eventually choose is the one that extracts the most hp on a broader power band. Believe me the intake definitely kicks ass. Only problem now is I light up the tires all through 1st gear with the VSA off. I like your CAI design too, very inventive .

Last but not least,
GoldTypeS-as of now the CAI is officially released. They had to test fit the production kit first. Which they did on my car. After they knew that everything was good to go. They started filling several order requests. If you plan on getting one I would suggest going soon before they are backordered. They didn't make a humongous run of the first batch because they weren't sure of demand. I'm sure they will get backordered fairly quick.


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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 02:09 PM
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What size diameter is the pipe?


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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 02:34 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spiroh:
What size diameter is the pipe?


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It's 3". Aw man I should have responded to each question individually so I could post whore like clpower .
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 03:43 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by blxmjx:
To answer some of your questions:
tw1112-no its a one-piece intake and you wouldn't have to cut the pipe. You just mount the bypass valve before the throttle body. There are two tubes connecting to the pipe. One in the rear which you guys can see and one on the underside of the pipe which is not visible.

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Wow..are you sure about this? In previous intakes AEM made sure to say NOT to put the bypass directly between the throttle body and the piping? Are you saying that they want to put the bypass right where the first rubber tube is connecting?

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 03:55 PM
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Looks nice.... Can't wait to get one.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 03:59 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tw1112:
Wow..are you sure about this? In previous intakes AEM made sure to say NOT to put the bypass directly between the throttle body and the piping? Are you saying that they want to put the bypass right where the first rubber tube is connecting?

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Woops, my bad I got the correct answer from the horses mouth. You would have to cut the pipe like you stated earlier.

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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 04:06 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by blxmjx:
Woops, my bad I got the correct answer from the horses mouth. You would have to cut the pipe like you stated earlier.

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hehe...I just wanted to make sure.. It's still much better then using the accords!

What do you think...will this fit the 1st gen's? The problem with using the accords for us is that the mounting spots were all off. Will this one fit on the right place at the bottom?
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 04:13 PM
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hehe...I just wanted to make sure.. It's still much better then using the accords!

What do you think...will this fit the 1st gen's? The problem with using the accords for us is that the mounting spots were all off. Will this one fit on the right place at the bottom?</font>
If you want we could meet up so you can check it out first to see if the mounting points are similar. Just hit me up.



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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 04:34 PM
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But does it humm like the others do? Or are we just stuck with that? After I replaced my filter with a K&N style cone filter, most of the humming went away. I was hoping maybe the CAI would result in less humming since the filter is located below the vehicle.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 05:11 PM
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A few observations, not that I am bitter but ....

1) This is the same specifications and design as the accord V6 induction system. Aside from the 3" Outside diameter the design is the same. Why did it take 9 months for that?

2) Why did they remove the VSA throttle body extension? It does npot appear to be a Type S, is that a CL-P in the photos?

3) One piece ? So you will have to cut it yourself for the Bypass valve?

Just a few obvservations, again I am not knocking the product it does look great but it has by far all of the same design specifications as the 98+ V6 Accord aside from the position of the brace and the increased diameter.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by blxmjx:
Well I got the car back from AEM and I only have one word to say about it,DAYUUMN. You notice a big difference especially in the mid to upper rpm range. During normal cruising the engine sounds stock, but when you gun it the motor comes alive you can feel and hear the difference.The kit is well made with appropriate mounting points to keep the unit from jiggling around. For those of you that have waited for the AEM, it has definitely been worth the wait.

Here are a couple of pics for your viewing pleasure.



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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 05:35 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Code3Smith:
But does it humm like the others do? Or are we just stuck with that? After I replaced my filter with a K&N style cone filter, most of the humming went away. I was hoping maybe the CAI would result in less humming since the filter is located below the vehicle.</font>
I drive the car around just to check for humming just for you. . No noticeable humming to be found throughout the full rpm range. I tried half throttle cruising and wot. I even took it on the freeway. No humming.
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Old Feb 24, 2001 | 05:46 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Xephyr2K:
A few observations, not that I am bitter but ....

1) This is the same specifications and design as the accord V6 induction system. Aside from the 3" Outside diameter the design is the same. Why did it take 9 months for that?

2) Why did they remove the VSA throttle body extension? It does npot appear to be a Type S, is that a CL-P in the photos?

3) One piece ? So you will have to cut it yourself for the Bypass valve?

Just a few obvservations, again I am not knocking the product it does look great but it has by far all of the same design specifications as the 98+ V6 Accord aside from the position of the brace and the increased diameter.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I think I can answer this one. They removed that part because they have their own mounting spots for the hoses on their own pipe. That way there is one less area where the pipe has to be connected using rubber tubing. Also, this way people can keep their stock boxes together and don't have to take anything apart. They can just use the pipe that comes with the kit and install that directly onto the car and connect the hoses to the pipe itself.
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First of all, the length of time that it has taken. Is not indicative of how long the kit was worked on. AEM offers many other products for many other types of automobiles. They don't work on only one or two types of applications. They have many projects going at once. As far as the design they dyno test many different configurations. Yes they dyno test not just g-tech. Yes that is a type s in the picture. It is mine. As I stated before you do have to cut the pipe yourself. The change in diameter of piping and brace position is definitely a design change due to the fact that they order these in bulk not just 5-10 at a time.

You don't sound bitter though, just a little worried about the interest in AEM's product.

BTW, I don't work for AEM I just feel that the quality of their product speaks for itself. Sure, it took a bit longer than people had hoped but good things are worth the wait. IMHO



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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 12:45 AM
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Well my car doesnt humm during acceleration. It humms at idle. Does the AEM? I have the weapon-r by the way, with a K&N cone filter versus the foam filter that came with it.
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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 01:09 AM
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Codesmith, did you make sure that all the connections are very tight? Any loose fitting will cause some air to leak and cause a humming....to my knowledge at least. Especially the connection from the filter to the pipe.

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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 01:13 AM
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Questions...

1. What do you have to cut yourself?

2. Like Xephyr asked, wheres the throttle body extension?

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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 01:42 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Questions...

1. What do you have to cut yourself?

2. Like Xephyr asked, wheres the throttle body extension?

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1. You would have to cut the pipe itself if you want to install the bypass valve because the intake aem is making is a one piece.

2. The throttle body piece is not needed for all AEM intakes because they include little extensions on the pipe itself for the 'air hoses' to connect to. That way you have the original intact and the intake all seperate. Also, I think a reason for this is so that you have one less area to have a rubber connecting hose.


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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 01:44 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
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1. What do you have to cut yourself?

2. Like Xephyr asked, wheres the throttle body extension?

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1. you can cut the intake pipe yourself if you wanted to install the bypass valve.
2. The throttle body extension comes off with the rest of the stock intake. AEM fabricated mounting points on the cold air intake pipe so that you can eliminate having to take apart the complete stock assembly.
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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 01:50 AM
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Does reloctating the positions of the hoses (relative to their orginal postion on the rubber throtle extension), as it is the case with AEM CAI affect the performance and the integity, and function of those hoses?

I think that their position is important too!

Why AEM relocated those to the back?

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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 02:01 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
Does reloctating the positions of the hoses (relative to their orginal postion on the rubber throtle extension), as it is the case with AEM CAI affect the performance and the integity, and function of those hoses?

I think that their position is important too!

Why AEM relocated those to the back?

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One of the hoses is actually in the exact same spot as the stock hose. The other hose is relocated to the underside of the pipe. It is still drawing the same air source as the stock configuration and shouldn't be a problem whatsoever. Both hoses are mounted very securely. AEM has been designing and manufacturing these kits for a long time with great success, I have no reason to doubt their engineering methods. One of my friends is an R&D engineer there and he really knows his sh*t. Keep in mind that they are the developers of the air bypass valves that are used on CAI to prevent hydrolocking. GEEZ, Xephyr even uses an AEM bypass valve on his own kit.
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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 02:15 AM
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I can back this.....I have the accords intake on my 1st gen. The intake is built very very solid, especially since its not even for my car.. Their substitute for the throttle body part is perfect. The hoses connect very well..and I never had a problem with it.

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Old Feb 25, 2001 | 02:28 AM
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Blxmjx,

One thing about CAI, in general, and AEM in particular, is that they are simple "tubing" that requires low-tech Al manufacturring, painting and some rubbers in addition to K&N filter. Therefore, there profit margin should be in 100%+ ranger over the cost of each part. This is the incentive to get those out to the market in the first place. The consumer would love to add some 5-10 HP to his wheels too However,

I would love to see a dyno for those mods:

1) AEM CAI alone.
2) Comptech headers
3) Random Technology High Flow Cat Convertor

1) and 2) Together
1 ) 2) and 3) all together.

BeatYouAll, will throw in his V-AFC too

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