$299 for 15HP and 20lbft of torque (TYPE-S)???
08-24-2001, 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by AcurA CrazY:
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no flames here.. but will he be able to keep up with the demand?
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no flames here.. but will he be able to keep up with the demand?
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Nothing causes misery like waiting in line for a nice product, other than a thread about it.
syncivic, yes, I'm interested. thank you.
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08-24-2001, 10:41 AM
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As I stated before, I what I believe will be the reaction from all north-east CL'er's
I will be interested when Jens looks at it up and down and then Wayne gives me the knod of approval..........
I will be interested when Jens looks at it up and down and then Wayne gives me the knod of approval..........
08-24-2001, 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by eclipse23:
<STRONG>As I stated before, I what I believe will be the reaction from all north-east CL'er's
I will be interested when Jens looks at it up and down and then Wayne gives me the knod of approval..........</STRONG>
<STRONG>As I stated before, I what I believe will be the reaction from all north-east CL'er's
I will be interested when Jens looks at it up and down and then Wayne gives me the knod of approval..........</STRONG>
joke
LOL hahahah good call
08-24-2001, 10:52 AM
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I'm thinking it might be Throttle Body.
Originally posted by JZ:
<STRONG>With all the bullshit replies posted here it's no wonder why so many of the long time members from way back on HA.net no longer post here. All Acura-cl.com MEMBERS should have just an ounce of respect for one another and especially for someone who has really done some serious work to the CLS. I'm sure 99% of the people talking shit here have no idea whatsoever who syncivic is and that he has been here for a long time. Have some respect for other members and don't jump on top of things that you know nothing about.
Sorry to flame but the maturity level of this place is going down the tubes lately. Just relax, see what he has to offer. If it's nothing than you have nothing to worry about. If it has some real merit than great, I'm all for it.
I think a more interesting way to look at this is how can one generate 20ft/lb of torque and only 15 hp? How can you put in a mod in our engine that makes more torque than HP? Any ideas or have we chased away all of the people with technical expertise that got sick of dealing with this kind of BS?
[ 08-23-2001: Message edited by: JZ ]</STRONG>
<STRONG>With all the bullshit replies posted here it's no wonder why so many of the long time members from way back on HA.net no longer post here. All Acura-cl.com MEMBERS should have just an ounce of respect for one another and especially for someone who has really done some serious work to the CLS. I'm sure 99% of the people talking shit here have no idea whatsoever who syncivic is and that he has been here for a long time. Have some respect for other members and don't jump on top of things that you know nothing about.
Sorry to flame but the maturity level of this place is going down the tubes lately. Just relax, see what he has to offer. If it's nothing than you have nothing to worry about. If it has some real merit than great, I'm all for it.
I think a more interesting way to look at this is how can one generate 20ft/lb of torque and only 15 hp? How can you put in a mod in our engine that makes more torque than HP? Any ideas or have we chased away all of the people with technical expertise that got sick of dealing with this kind of BS?
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08-24-2001, 10:59 AM
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I'm actually going to be there.
Originally posted by bioyuki:
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2001 SEMA Show • International Tire Expo
Oct. 30-Nov 2, 2001
Las Vegas, Nev.
Open to Trade Only
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2001 SEMA Show • International Tire Expo
Oct. 30-Nov 2, 2001
Las Vegas, Nev.
Open to Trade Only
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08-24-2001, 11:00 AM
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The new RSX and Civic can be modified.
Originally posted by KCPreki11:
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Hmm...well I never heard that RSX rumor...if it was true thats good for the RSX guys...Ok well the Type S is generated towards an older crowd. Acura engineers did the ECU just enough for speed but good gas mileage too. They could have kept going but you would lose gas mileage. You personally could sit it on a dyno for hours with a laptop and make run after run and write it the best way it fits your needs. I'm not at too much will to say...but...I hope you get my drift.
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Hmm...well I never heard that RSX rumor...if it was true thats good for the RSX guys...Ok well the Type S is generated towards an older crowd. Acura engineers did the ECU just enough for speed but good gas mileage too. They could have kept going but you would lose gas mileage. You personally could sit it on a dyno for hours with a laptop and make run after run and write it the best way it fits your needs. I'm not at too much will to say...but...I hope you get my drift.
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08-24-2001, 11:01 AM
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Good Morning....
You have all made some valid points to my method of delivery. I am in the Patent process to protect the investment laid out thus far...this is the primary reason that a description is NOT forth coming and that the company wants a SEMA debut.
By then, we will have 1000 pieces for the J32A2 series ready to ship and hopefully as many for the J32A1 if the dyno runs are as promising.
I hope that RAdams will post my Dyno runs early before the skeptics remaining pick my bones clean (I actually like some of the creativity used, esp the BS flag).
Some other facts...
Its not an ECU or Software upgrade ( I wish that could be accomplished for $299!!!)
It should not affect your warranty.
It should be CARB approved...working on that process.
It will look trick.
The RSX is flash programable, although its encryption would be a bitch...reminds me of the MATRIX movie.
We are 2/3's done in our effort to kit form a turbocharged variant of the RSX type S.
Our asymetrically turbocharged J32A2 project has proved an engineering nightmare in turbo sizing (exhaust pressure ratio vs. response vs. compressor map efficiency)
You have all made some valid points to my method of delivery. I am in the Patent process to protect the investment laid out thus far...this is the primary reason that a description is NOT forth coming and that the company wants a SEMA debut.
By then, we will have 1000 pieces for the J32A2 series ready to ship and hopefully as many for the J32A1 if the dyno runs are as promising.
I hope that RAdams will post my Dyno runs early before the skeptics remaining pick my bones clean (I actually like some of the creativity used, esp the BS flag).
Some other facts...
Its not an ECU or Software upgrade ( I wish that could be accomplished for $299!!!)
It should not affect your warranty.
It should be CARB approved...working on that process.
It will look trick.
The RSX is flash programable, although its encryption would be a bitch...reminds me of the MATRIX movie.
We are 2/3's done in our effort to kit form a turbocharged variant of the RSX type S.
Our asymetrically turbocharged J32A2 project has proved an engineering nightmare in turbo sizing (exhaust pressure ratio vs. response vs. compressor map efficiency)
08-24-2001, 11:06 AM
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You are the man Doug. Does that mean you dropped the project for the turbo CL-S? Or are u still working on it?
Originally posted by syncivic:
<STRONG>Good Morning....
You have all made some valid points to my method of delivery. I am in the Patent process to protect the investment laid out thus far...this is the primary reason that a description is NOT forth coming and that the company wants a SEMA debut.
By then, we will have 1000 pieces for the J32A2 series ready to ship and hopefully as many for the J32A1 if the dyno runs are as promising.
I hope that RAdams will post my Dyno runs early before the skeptics remaining pick my bones clean (I actually like some of the creativity used, esp the BS flag).
Some other facts...
Its not an ECU or Software upgrade ( I wish that could be accomplished for $299!!!)
It should not affect your warranty.
It should be CARB approved...working on that process.
It will look trick.
The RSX is flash programable, although its encryption would be a bitch...reminds me of the MATRIX movie.
We are 2/3's done in our effort to kit form a turbocharged variant of the RSX type S.
Our asymetrically turbocharged J32A2 project has proved an engineering nightmare in turbo sizing (exhaust pressure ratio vs. response vs. compressor map efficiency)</STRONG>
<STRONG>Good Morning....
You have all made some valid points to my method of delivery. I am in the Patent process to protect the investment laid out thus far...this is the primary reason that a description is NOT forth coming and that the company wants a SEMA debut.
By then, we will have 1000 pieces for the J32A2 series ready to ship and hopefully as many for the J32A1 if the dyno runs are as promising.
I hope that RAdams will post my Dyno runs early before the skeptics remaining pick my bones clean (I actually like some of the creativity used, esp the BS flag).
Some other facts...
Its not an ECU or Software upgrade ( I wish that could be accomplished for $299!!!)
It should not affect your warranty.
It should be CARB approved...working on that process.
It will look trick.
The RSX is flash programable, although its encryption would be a bitch...reminds me of the MATRIX movie.
We are 2/3's done in our effort to kit form a turbocharged variant of the RSX type S.
Our asymetrically turbocharged J32A2 project has proved an engineering nightmare in turbo sizing (exhaust pressure ratio vs. response vs. compressor map efficiency)</STRONG>
08-24-2001, 11:11 AM
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thanks for the update,
But doesn't a patent process takes like a year
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Anyways, I hope a 1000 units are enough, Can we put a deposit to reserve one
But doesn't a patent process takes like a year
..Anyways, I hope a 1000 units are enough, Can we put a deposit to reserve one
08-24-2001, 11:26 AM
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I would love to get some track time on these mods but the dyno work comes first. The track time also needs lots of consistent baseline work to nail the 60' times, then mod the car (minutes) and measure the differences. The problem is that I must rent the track $1200.00 to get that kind of time.
It is this lack of consistency that makes me ignore so many postings on 1/4 mile times. We call it backing it up (the time)...then its legitamate.
Have to go for now, I have a business to run.
I will trust that Ron will have the Dyno's posted and then I can get some true feedback from my future clients.
Have a great day.
It is this lack of consistency that makes me ignore so many postings on 1/4 mile times. We call it backing it up (the time)...then its legitamate.
Have to go for now, I have a business to run.
I will trust that Ron will have the Dyno's posted and then I can get some true feedback from my future clients.
Have a great day.
08-24-2001, 11:40 AM
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Sorry for the delay in getting the dyno graph posted this morning.. I walked in at 8:30 and was summoned directly into a meeting.
The server I was going to host the pic on is down, so here's a link to acura-tl.com where I uploaded the pic directly:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=20130
Read the notes in my post to decypher the runs.
The server I was going to host the pic on is down, so here's a link to acura-tl.com where I uploaded the pic directly:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=20130
Read the notes in my post to decypher the runs.
08-24-2001, 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by RAdams:
<STRONG>Sorry for the delay in getting the dyno graph posted this morning.. I walked in at 8:30 and was summoned directly into a meeting.
The server I was going to host the pic on is down, so here's a link to acura-tl.com where I uploaded the pic directly:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=20130
Read the notes in my post to decypher the runs.</STRONG>
<STRONG>Sorry for the delay in getting the dyno graph posted this morning.. I walked in at 8:30 and was summoned directly into a meeting.
The server I was going to host the pic on is down, so here's a link to acura-tl.com where I uploaded the pic directly:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=20130
Read the notes in my post to decypher the runs.</STRONG>
08-24-2001, 11:44 AM
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Sweet... thanks for posting the pic here.
So you don't have to follow the link:
red hp line and purple torque line are for a bone stock 2002 TL-S. Blue hp line and light blue torque line are for the same TL-S with the mod installed. Green hp line and black torque line are for the same TL-S, again with the mod installed, plus a CAI.
So you don't have to follow the link:
red hp line and purple torque line are for a bone stock 2002 TL-S. Blue hp line and light blue torque line are for the same TL-S with the mod installed. Green hp line and black torque line are for the same TL-S, again with the mod installed, plus a CAI.
08-24-2001, 11:51 AM
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According to the dyno, it's about 220 peak hp. However, the best part is the HUGE increase in hp and torque that this nets you in the midrange. Look at the gap between the stock and modded torque plots!
08-24-2001, 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by RAdams:
<STRONG>According to the dyno, it's about 220 peak hp. However, the best part is the HUGE increase in hp and torque that this nets you in the midrange. Look at the gap between the stock and modded torque plots!</STRONG>
<STRONG>According to the dyno, it's about 220 peak hp. However, the best part is the HUGE increase in hp and torque that this nets you in the midrange. Look at the gap between the stock and modded torque plots!</STRONG>
08-24-2001, 12:18 PM
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Will our transmission be able to handle it? It's already shitty. But this offer is too good to pass up, if it is true. Intelligent people are naturally sceptical, and it seems that there are many intelligent people here.
08-24-2001, 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Slanteye2:
<STRONG>Will our transmission be able to handle it? It's already shitty.</STRONG>
<STRONG>Will our transmission be able to handle it? It's already shitty.</STRONG>
08-24-2001, 12:46 PM
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That's a strong pulling TLS to begin with. It's putting about 205+ HP down whereas the best pulls from our dyno archives are about 198HP.
Do you all think these are 299$ headers? Seems to have very similar characterisitics.
If not, and if this thing can work in conjunction with headers, we're looking at putting down a full 260HP to the wheels.
Do you all think these are 299$ headers? Seems to have very similar characterisitics.
If not, and if this thing can work in conjunction with headers, we're looking at putting down a full 260HP to the wheels.
08-24-2001, 12:52 PM
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I like it! I alread have a CAI and with $299, I woudl be at 220HP at the front wheels!, I like it!....
Now, let us see a dyno with a pulleys and headers pleazzzzzzzz!
Oh, before I forget, where I sent my cash
Now, let us see a dyno with a pulleys and headers pleazzzzzzzz!
Oh, before I forget, where I sent my cash
08-24-2001, 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by AcurA CrazY:
<STRONG>there ya go... to bad i have no idea what im looking at... so what does all this cranyon looking stuff mean?</STRONG>
<STRONG>there ya go... to bad i have no idea what im looking at... so what does all this cranyon looking stuff mean?
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08-24-2001, 02:08 PM
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It looks also that headers will push higher Hp *after* 5500 rpms, so in this dynoed TL-S with the new mod. Headers still have a chance to improve with their 25-32 HP.
Can we say a 245-250 FWHP is possible?
Can we say a 245-250 FWHP is possible?
08-24-2001, 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by RedLineTypeS:
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Granted it iz a lo price for Full long headers.. but not 4 the shorties...</STRONG>
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Granted it iz a lo price for Full long headers.. but not 4 the shorties...</STRONG>
08-24-2001, 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by syncivic:
<STRONG>WOULD THIS PRICE INTEREST ANYONE. THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME, KNOW THAT I DON'T BS ABOUT POWER FIGURES. I WILL BE RELEASING A PRODUCT THAT BOLTS ON IN MINUTES, PRODUCES THE POWER STATED, AND MAINTAINS THE QUALITY OF THE VEHICLE. THE POWER PRODUCED IS ACROSS THE ENTIRE REV RANGE AND AVERAGES +10HP WITH A PEAK VS PEAK GAIN OF +15HP OVER STOCK.
THIS PRODUCT WILL OFFICIALLY LAUNCH AT THE SEMA SHOW OVER HALOWEEN AND THE INITIAL PARTS PRODUCTION FOR RELEASE HAS BEGUN. THIS POSTING IS TO GUAGE INTEREST. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PRODUCT THAT OFFERS THIS BANG FOR THE BUCK...YOU TELL ME.
EMAIL ME YOUR INTERSET OR POST HERE.</STRONG>
<STRONG>WOULD THIS PRICE INTEREST ANYONE. THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME, KNOW THAT I DON'T BS ABOUT POWER FIGURES. I WILL BE RELEASING A PRODUCT THAT BOLTS ON IN MINUTES, PRODUCES THE POWER STATED, AND MAINTAINS THE QUALITY OF THE VEHICLE. THE POWER PRODUCED IS ACROSS THE ENTIRE REV RANGE AND AVERAGES +10HP WITH A PEAK VS PEAK GAIN OF +15HP OVER STOCK.
THIS PRODUCT WILL OFFICIALLY LAUNCH AT THE SEMA SHOW OVER HALOWEEN AND THE INITIAL PARTS PRODUCTION FOR RELEASE HAS BEGUN. THIS POSTING IS TO GUAGE INTEREST. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER PRODUCT THAT OFFERS THIS BANG FOR THE BUCK...YOU TELL ME.
EMAIL ME YOUR INTERSET OR POST HERE.</STRONG>
I'm looking forward to meeting you. . . I could use all the additional hp I can get!
Good luck on your new product!
Maurice
08-24-2001, 02:22 PM
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What kind of car gained so much HP?
Originally posted by v6MoMoney:
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OK, I'm curious enough to checkout to check out your product. I'll be attending the SEMA, at the Ground Designs 2000 booth promoting the latest body kits, and my v6 will be at The Racers Group booth (outside) promoting "The UNICHIP", which produced an addition 40+ hp at the wheels and 50+ lbs of torque. Feel free to visit their website www.theracersgroup.com or call Mark or Tony at (707) 935-3999.
I'm looking forward to meeting you. . . I could use all the additional hp I can get!
Good luck on your new product!
Maurice</STRONG>
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OK, I'm curious enough to checkout to check out your product. I'll be attending the SEMA, at the Ground Designs 2000 booth promoting the latest body kits, and my v6 will be at The Racers Group booth (outside) promoting "The UNICHIP", which produced an addition 40+ hp at the wheels and 50+ lbs of torque. Feel free to visit their website www.theracersgroup.com or call Mark or Tony at (707) 935-3999.
I'm looking forward to meeting you. . . I could use all the additional hp I can get!
Good luck on your new product!
Maurice</STRONG>
08-24-2001, 02:41 PM
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True ! People forget what they've read just 30 minutes earlier
Im IN !
Im IN !
Originally posted by e1828:
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Remember he posted on like page 3 that this 'doo dad' can beused in conjunction with intake, headers and exhaust not in place of any of those... so it is not headers.. eight pages already looks like everyone is havng rambling withdrawal or something.. hey syncivic (doug) I'll take it!</STRONG>
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Remember he posted on like page 3 that this 'doo dad' can beused in conjunction with intake, headers and exhaust not in place of any of those... so it is not headers.. eight pages already looks like everyone is havng rambling withdrawal or something.. hey syncivic (doug) I'll take it!</STRONG>