Problems with my 6MT
Problems with my 6MT
I have an 04 TSX with about 106,000 Miles on it.
Just recently I've noticed some of my gears grinding...my Reverse gear in particular. Even when I'm at a dead stop and put it in Reverse it will grind...even after I pump the clutch a couple of times. My 1st gear is also hard to get into and I sometimes hear a slight grind.
Another problem I've been having is difficulty shifting from 1st-->2nd-->3rd and from 4th-->5th
I have no idea what's wrong, but I hope a transmission flush will fix the problem...I hope
Just recently I've noticed some of my gears grinding...my Reverse gear in particular. Even when I'm at a dead stop and put it in Reverse it will grind...even after I pump the clutch a couple of times. My 1st gear is also hard to get into and I sometimes hear a slight grind.
Another problem I've been having is difficulty shifting from 1st-->2nd-->3rd and from 4th-->5th
I have no idea what's wrong, but I hope a transmission flush will fix the problem...I hope
Originally Posted by JTso
You probably would have wet spots on the slave or clutch master cyliner around the hydraulic fitting. Don't forget to check the fluid level.
Could there be possibly anything wrong with my synchros? Or my gears not meshing as they should be?
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Originally Posted by wenge
there are no synchros on reverse in any car, since it requires a reversing gear be thrown in.
this sounds like clutch failure - the clutch is not releasing all the way.
this sounds like clutch failure - the clutch is not releasing all the way.
It does indeed sound like the clutch is the likely culprit. If you grind going into reverse with the car stopped and you've had your foot on the clutch a few seconds, it means that the transmission internals are still turning, and hence the friction surface of the clutch is still making some contact with the engine flywheel.
Originally Posted by wenge
there are no synchros on reverse in any car, since it requires a reversing gear be thrown in.
this sounds like clutch failure - the clutch is not releasing all the way.
this sounds like clutch failure - the clutch is not releasing all the way.
Ask someone to step on the clutch while you watch the movement of the clutch slave cylinder. If it doesn't move much, you can try bleeding the system to see if that helps. Also look under the dash and follow the clutch pedal to where it meets the master cylinder attachment point and look for signs of leakage there.
Originally Posted by rb1
Not entirely true. It's possible to have a synchronized reverse gear, but they are very rare.
Or did they just add a synchro to make the car more expensive?
Originally Posted by JTso
Ask someone to step on the clutch while you watch the movement of the clutch slave cylinder. If it doesn't move much, you can try bleeding the system to see if that helps. Also look under the dash and follow the clutch pedal to where it meets the master cylinder attachment point and look for signs of leakage there.
If worse come to worse and I have to replace my transmission, what options should I start considering?
Update: I now have almost 109,000 Miles and its been getting slightly more difficult to shift...both upshifts and downshifts.
What options and alternatives do I have?
And which one's should I look more into?
What options and alternatives do I have?
And which one's should I look more into?
Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
I don't see any signs of leaks or clutch slave movement. I also have not had a chance to bleed the system, but it seems like my problem is getting worse.
If worse come to worse and I have to replace my transmission, what options should I start considering?
If worse come to worse and I have to replace my transmission, what options should I start considering?
Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
I have an 04 TSX with about 106,000 Miles on it.
Just recently I've noticed some of my gears grinding...my Reverse gear in particular. Even when I'm at a dead stop and put it in Reverse it will grind...even after I pump the clutch a couple of times. My 1st gear is also hard to get into and I sometimes hear a slight grind.
Another problem I've been having is difficulty shifting from 1st-->2nd-->3rd and from 4th-->5th
I have no idea what's wrong, but I hope a transmission flush will fix the problem...I hope
Just recently I've noticed some of my gears grinding...my Reverse gear in particular. Even when I'm at a dead stop and put it in Reverse it will grind...even after I pump the clutch a couple of times. My 1st gear is also hard to get into and I sometimes hear a slight grind.
Another problem I've been having is difficulty shifting from 1st-->2nd-->3rd and from 4th-->5th
I have no idea what's wrong, but I hope a transmission flush will fix the problem...I hope

First thing I would do is check your transmission fluid and change it with some fresh Acura MTF. But since its grinding in almost every gear, I would say its your clutch starting to go. The pressure plate probably got some worn springs and not allowing the disc to completely free itself, causing it to continue rotating the trans while you're clutched in (which inturn would cause grinding when shifting). Especially with the high mileage that you have, Im 99% sure its clutch related.
Originally Posted by TechSX
First thing I would do is check your transmission fluid and change it with some fresh Acura MTF. But since its grinding in almost every gear, I would say its your clutch starting to go. The pressure plate probably got some worn springs and not allowing the disc to completely free itself, causing it to continue rotating the trans while you're clutched in (which inturn would cause grinding when shifting). Especially with the high mileage that you have, Im 99% sure its clutch related.
If it is my clutch going out, what options should I be looking into? I wouldn't want any race application clutches, just something stock-like.
Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
I got my transmission fluid changed last weekend, I felt a slight improvement, but I'm still having difficulty shifting.
If it is my clutch going out, what options should I be looking into? I wouldn't want any race application clutches, just something stock-like.
If it is my clutch going out, what options should I be looking into? I wouldn't want any race application clutches, just something stock-like.
Go and check your fluid now. Is it at max?
Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
Yes.
Originally Posted by SoCaliTrojan
I'm curious, what kind of car needs a synchro for reverse? I've never seen a car with more than two reverse gears. Or are you talking about something else like a semi-truck?
Or did they just add a synchro to make the car more expensive?
Or did they just add a synchro to make the car more expensive?
Fully sychronized reverse gears used to be found mainly in high-end sports cars (Audi S4, some Corvette models), but now even a Saturn Ion has one.
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Originally Posted by TSX 3Pedal
I have an 04 TSX with about 106,000 Miles on it.
Just recently I've noticed some of my gears grinding...my Reverse gear in particular. Even when I'm at a dead stop and put it in Reverse it will grind...even after I pump the clutch a couple of times. My 1st gear is also hard to get into and I sometimes hear a slight grind.
Just recently I've noticed some of my gears grinding...my Reverse gear in particular. Even when I'm at a dead stop and put it in Reverse it will grind...even after I pump the clutch a couple of times. My 1st gear is also hard to get into and I sometimes hear a slight grind.
I'm going to look into this soon... I'll post my findings.
Originally Posted by NYT
I'm in a very similar situation. I searched here assuming to find a TSB or something. My reverse gear gives me a clunk about every second day, mostly only in AM starts. It can vary from slight grind to a substantial clunk. There's definetly something spinning when R is being engaged (with clutch fully depressed).
I'm going to look into this soon... I'll post my findings.
I'm going to look into this soon... I'll post my findings.
Originally Posted by vthree
try putting it in first then going to reverse... something i used to do on my hatch... just to avoid grinding for now
Update:
I FINALLY changed my transmission fluid. It's a little smoother, but nothing substantial. I expect it to get a bit smoother as it breaks in.
As for the "clunk" when shifting into reverse the problem is completely eliminated when shifting into a forward gear (I use 3rd) and then into reverse. I've tried this for months and not 1 hiccup.
Interesting notes:
- When I changed the fluid there was no washer on the fill side. I bought the car used... can't confirm if the dealer did this or not.
- My tranny took just over 2L of fluid. I used Honda Advance MTF.
I FINALLY changed my transmission fluid. It's a little smoother, but nothing substantial. I expect it to get a bit smoother as it breaks in.
As for the "clunk" when shifting into reverse the problem is completely eliminated when shifting into a forward gear (I use 3rd) and then into reverse. I've tried this for months and not 1 hiccup.
Interesting notes:
- When I changed the fluid there was no washer on the fill side. I bought the car used... can't confirm if the dealer did this or not.
- My tranny took just over 2L of fluid. I used Honda Advance MTF.
Originally Posted by NYT
Interesting notes:
- When I changed the fluid there was no washer on the fill side. I bought the car used... can't confirm if the dealer did this or not.
- My tranny took just over 2L of fluid. I used Honda Advance MTF.
- When I changed the fluid there was no washer on the fill side. I bought the car used... can't confirm if the dealer did this or not.
- My tranny took just over 2L of fluid. I used Honda Advance MTF.
I'm using some new Honda MTF, which is colorless, unlike the old one which was golden in color. The new one is much better.
Originally Posted by miner
Keep in mind when you change your trans fluid you do not get all of the old fluid out. I believe the complete fill is around 9 qts.
Originally Posted by aaronng
There should be a washer on the fill side as well. Was it stuck to the bolt?
I guess "handydandy" has a point... washer on the fill side isn't really that important. I still want it there though.
Not entirely true. It's possible to have a synchronized reverse gear, but they are very rare.
It does indeed sound like the clutch is the likely culprit. If you grind going into reverse with the car stopped and you've had your foot on the clutch a few seconds, it means that the transmission internals are still turning, and hence the friction surface of the clutch is still making some contact with the engine flywheel.
It does indeed sound like the clutch is the likely culprit. If you grind going into reverse with the car stopped and you've had your foot on the clutch a few seconds, it means that the transmission internals are still turning, and hence the friction surface of the clutch is still making some contact with the engine flywheel.
What solutions/options would you recommend?
thanks
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