Removing and Installing the ECU and Immobilizer
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Removing and Installing the ECU and Immobilizer
I thought everyone might be interested in a tutorial for removing the ECU and immobilizer for the Hondata Upgrade. Directions are below:
Removing the Immobilizer:
1. Removing steering colum covers: There are 3 screws below the column that should be removed. Next you must release the top portion of the cover from the bottom portion. I found that if you press with both hands on the top of the cover, where the arrow is, it will give you enough space to insert a flat-head screwdriver to push in the connecting snaps. If you'll notice there are little bumps on the bottom cover. Plus the screwdriver in between those bumps to push back the snaps enough to pop the top off.
Next you must remove the two wire adapters and the 2 screws holding the immobilizer in place. I had to use a short phillips-head screwdriver that had a wide head to remove the screws.
Removing the ECU:
First you must remove the center foot-panels. Below is a pic of the Drivers side panel, there is a screw at the top and a screw/pop connector at the bottom. The passenger side only has the screw/pop connecter.
After removing the screws, the panel just pops out
Next I removed the AC vent for more room. Both sides have these vents and with a little wiggling they'll come out.
To get to the ECU, you must first pull back the carpeting on both sides of the center console.
To remove the ECU, you'll need to use a ratched w/a 10mm socket. There is one bolt on each side of the ECU. On the passenger side, it's easier to remove all the wires before trying to remove the bolt.
Driver side:
Passenger side:
Remove the ECU by pulling it out on the passenger side
and viola! no more ECU
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...z/DSCF0323.jpg
Hope this helps those who want to do the reflash. Good luck!
Removing the Immobilizer:
1. Removing steering colum covers: There are 3 screws below the column that should be removed. Next you must release the top portion of the cover from the bottom portion. I found that if you press with both hands on the top of the cover, where the arrow is, it will give you enough space to insert a flat-head screwdriver to push in the connecting snaps. If you'll notice there are little bumps on the bottom cover. Plus the screwdriver in between those bumps to push back the snaps enough to pop the top off.
Next you must remove the two wire adapters and the 2 screws holding the immobilizer in place. I had to use a short phillips-head screwdriver that had a wide head to remove the screws.
Removing the ECU:
First you must remove the center foot-panels. Below is a pic of the Drivers side panel, there is a screw at the top and a screw/pop connector at the bottom. The passenger side only has the screw/pop connecter.
After removing the screws, the panel just pops out
Next I removed the AC vent for more room. Both sides have these vents and with a little wiggling they'll come out.
To get to the ECU, you must first pull back the carpeting on both sides of the center console.
To remove the ECU, you'll need to use a ratched w/a 10mm socket. There is one bolt on each side of the ECU. On the passenger side, it's easier to remove all the wires before trying to remove the bolt.
Driver side:
Passenger side:
Remove the ECU by pulling it out on the passenger side
and viola! no more ECU
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...z/DSCF0323.jpg
Hope this helps those who want to do the reflash. Good luck!
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Awesome write up Slo....Great pics, clear instructions, -->
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
I can still see them
Slobeatz: Did you disconnect the negative terminal on the battery before you took everything out?
Slobeatz: Did you disconnect the negative terminal on the battery before you took everything out?
nope.
I still see the pics. I do have a bandwith limit through photobucket, so if it does I'll have to find a new host.
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Originally Posted by slobeatz
nope.
I still see the pics. I do have a bandwith limit through photobucket, so if it does I'll have to find a new host.
I still see the pics. I do have a bandwith limit through photobucket, so if it does I'll have to find a new host.
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Are there any other threads that still have pics of the ECU removal?
http://www.acura-tsx.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24905
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^ Well that thread doesn't exist anymore either. :P
Anyone have the images from this archived somewhere? I can host 'em if we can find 'em....
Anyone have the images from this archived somewhere? I can host 'em if we can find 'em....
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I would just use this thread:
http://www.hondata.com/tsx_ecu_removal.html
http://www.hondata.com/tsx_ecu_removal.html
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Ah, thank you sir. That shows me exactly what I need to do.
The whole removal operation looks much easier now than the last time I looked at those instructions. I may just go ahead and do that.....
The whole removal operation looks much easier now than the last time I looked at those instructions. I may just go ahead and do that.....
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From my "impressions" post today:
This thread also has good photos (and still online!).
DIY removal tips:
(Yes I took pics. Hondata's removal page is excellent, but there were a couple of tips I had. Some of the following pics are from Hondata with my annotations.)
Keep all your screws and fasteners in Ziploc/Glad bags. This seems a no brainer, but for some who don't do a lot of mechanical DIY work, this can save time and headache in reassembly. If you're REALLY anal, buy new screws from your dealer or an online parts store.
I had a hard time reaching in and disconnecting the ECU plugs. Use one hand/finger to press down the lock tab (on top of each plug), and user the other to ease the plug out. DON'T pull the wires -- a mishap pulling a pin/wire out of a plug will ruin your fun.
For some reason, I had the easiest time starting from the forward-most plug working back towards the shifter. The plugs are unique, so you can't plug one back in to the wrong port.
There's a metal tab with a wiring bundle fastened to it with a snap fastener. I couldn't get the fastener to release. I absolutely could not get the ECU to slide out between this metal tab and the structure above (HVAC plenum?) without bending the tab, so -- I simply removed the ECU from the driver's side. You have to really muscle the carpet down to provide clearance, but it was easier than endangering wiring bundles. (Make sure you have wiring and plugs out of the way on the passenger side when you reinsert the ECU.) Push the gas pedal all the way down (you've disconnected that battery and removed the ignition key, right?), and worked the carpet down and the ECU should slide out easily.
One of the screws for the bottom of the steering wheel column is different from the others. Remember which it is, or simply reinsert it partially while your parts are away. Getting the bottom cover off is easy, just be patient and keep moving it around as Hondata's page suggests. There's a metal part in there that you could bend if you wrench it out forcibly.
Getting it back on is another matter ... the screws are upside down (as are you), you have to line them up, get them all the way into the recesses. It can be frustrating. Just have plenty of light, and patience. Oh ... and I used an old cheat of putting a very tiny drop of Krazy Glue (cyanoacrylate) in the screw head, affixing it to the screwdriver, then threading the screw in. The driver will become unglued when you pull it or pivot it. Again, use VERY LITTLE GLUE. About a pinhead's worth. If you think you may not have enough, you've probably used too much.
There are two connectors around the immobilizer module, disconnect them and don’t yank the wires too much.
The two Philips screws (#14 in the parts breakdown; part no. 72118-ST7-003 on my 2006) fastening the immobilization unit) have REALLY badly cast screw heads. If you're not very diligent about applying pressure/torque to these screws, you can easily strip them out. I don't think you could get them out with vice grip pliers if you trash them. If there's ANYTHING I might've bought from a dealer and use new parts during reinstallation, it's these. They're only a dollar or two. (I believe these are #1-Philips screws while all others on this job are #2-Philips.)
Finally, some have affixed blue painter's tape to the ECU, immobilizer and valet key[2] and written their name on it. Not a bad idea, though I suspect the folks in Torrance don't have a bench full of units all loose and getting mixed up. I used my Dymo industrial labeler to put my name and the last 7 of my VIN on each as a more lasting identification. I also wrote "Hondata 09/2009" on the underside of the ECU when it was returned (not visible unless you remove it).
[2] Yes, Hondata just needs a key that starts the car, so you needn't send one of your black keys if you have a valet key.
(Yes I took pics. Hondata's removal page is excellent, but there were a couple of tips I had. Some of the following pics are from Hondata with my annotations.)
Keep all your screws and fasteners in Ziploc/Glad bags. This seems a no brainer, but for some who don't do a lot of mechanical DIY work, this can save time and headache in reassembly. If you're REALLY anal, buy new screws from your dealer or an online parts store.
I had a hard time reaching in and disconnecting the ECU plugs. Use one hand/finger to press down the lock tab (on top of each plug), and user the other to ease the plug out. DON'T pull the wires -- a mishap pulling a pin/wire out of a plug will ruin your fun.
For some reason, I had the easiest time starting from the forward-most plug working back towards the shifter. The plugs are unique, so you can't plug one back in to the wrong port.
There's a metal tab with a wiring bundle fastened to it with a snap fastener. I couldn't get the fastener to release. I absolutely could not get the ECU to slide out between this metal tab and the structure above (HVAC plenum?) without bending the tab, so -- I simply removed the ECU from the driver's side. You have to really muscle the carpet down to provide clearance, but it was easier than endangering wiring bundles. (Make sure you have wiring and plugs out of the way on the passenger side when you reinsert the ECU.) Push the gas pedal all the way down (you've disconnected that battery and removed the ignition key, right?), and worked the carpet down and the ECU should slide out easily.
One of the screws for the bottom of the steering wheel column is different from the others. Remember which it is, or simply reinsert it partially while your parts are away. Getting the bottom cover off is easy, just be patient and keep moving it around as Hondata's page suggests. There's a metal part in there that you could bend if you wrench it out forcibly.
Getting it back on is another matter ... the screws are upside down (as are you), you have to line them up, get them all the way into the recesses. It can be frustrating. Just have plenty of light, and patience. Oh ... and I used an old cheat of putting a very tiny drop of Krazy Glue (cyanoacrylate) in the screw head, affixing it to the screwdriver, then threading the screw in. The driver will become unglued when you pull it or pivot it. Again, use VERY LITTLE GLUE. About a pinhead's worth. If you think you may not have enough, you've probably used too much.
There are two connectors around the immobilizer module, disconnect them and don’t yank the wires too much.
The two Philips screws (#14 in the parts breakdown; part no. 72118-ST7-003 on my 2006) fastening the immobilization unit) have REALLY badly cast screw heads. If you're not very diligent about applying pressure/torque to these screws, you can easily strip them out. I don't think you could get them out with vice grip pliers if you trash them. If there's ANYTHING I might've bought from a dealer and use new parts during reinstallation, it's these. They're only a dollar or two. (I believe these are #1-Philips screws while all others on this job are #2-Philips.)
Finally, some have affixed blue painter's tape to the ECU, immobilizer and valet key[2] and written their name on it. Not a bad idea, though I suspect the folks in Torrance don't have a bench full of units all loose and getting mixed up. I used my Dymo industrial labeler to put my name and the last 7 of my VIN on each as a more lasting identification. I also wrote "Hondata 09/2009" on the underside of the ECU when it was returned (not visible unless you remove it).
[2] Yes, Hondata just needs a key that starts the car, so you needn't send one of your black keys if you have a valet key.
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