http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...&highlight=tsx

interesting.

 

Wow...where do people come up with the time and money?

 

i know, i am still trying to find the motivation to switch my Intake to CAI mode. hahaa

 

Ill go as far as changing my wiper blades...

 

At first I was getting disappointed in you guys...then I realized I am getting there myself...

 

Wow...I'm impressed!!! I wonder if that would be a better swap over a DC5R engine.

 

2.4L versus 2.0L? I would think it would be better than a DC5R....we will have to see what numbers he gets with a TSX engine.

 

That's true but if the K24 frankinstien has the same reliability problems as the B20 frankinstien, I would stick with the DC5Rs.

 

Reliability problems? B20 VTEC does not have reliability problem if done correctly. It is only less reliable that a B18C if you beat the crap out of it....if reliability is lessened, it is not necessarily BAD....I think a properly built an maintained B20VTEC cam make gobs of reliable power better that countless other stock engine from other makes.

Likewise, what would be the problem with a K24-iVTEC? And what is the point anyway? a K24 converted to dual iVTEC is not going to be all that different from a TSX engine anyway, right? Just wondering....

 

For the B20s, there were too much vibrations on the sleeves and when the motor is revved up to 8000rpm range, it would warpe. Also, if the 20 Vtec was such a great engine, why didn't Honda just put that engine out to the public? Or gave it to the DC4s? Instead of having techs trying it out themselves? Because probably Honda knows that there would be a reliability problems after long hours of testing.

That is what I don't understand. If you're going to swap a K24 with typeS head into a RSX. Why? Just to gain that little torque?? So that's why I said why not go with a DC5R motor.

 

A) A B20 block is different from a GSR or type R ONLY becuase of bore and the oil squirters. Deck height is the same, cylinders have the same construction, and obviously a VTEC head bolts right on. Other than internal components, the engines are VERY similar. Does your arguement mean that you feel LS VTECs are unreliable also?

B) .4L is a lot of displacement! Certainly worth the trouble if it will work. Torque makes a car fast, horsepower is a fluff number. MY question has more to do with your comment relating it to a B20 VTEC. True, the B20 VTEC is not something Honda offered from the factory, but a K24 with iVTEC was, and it is in our cars....so I am wondering, what is the big mechanical difference between a TSX engine and an Accord angine with a RSX-S head on it?

 

AFAIK our K24A2 is just a K24 block with a RSX-S head, so no difference at all?

 

If im not mistaken, he put a TSX engine in his RSX? I thought the RSX engine was faster to begin with?

 

Faster maybe because of a lighter body.....

 

The RSX's engine is only 2L... it produces less torque, and it produces its max torque at a much higher RPM.
The RSX is only faster if its a Type-S, and its only because of the weight difference.

 

Huh? That doesn't answer anything tho? I know the block is differnet and I know the deck is the same. So what's why I said any B20 blocks aren't as reliable. No I DID NOT say LS/VTECs aren't reliable cause they ARE NOT B20 blocks. But is that YOUR arguement?? You haven't proved anything tho. I asked why you think Honda didn't put out a B20 VTEC in the first place?!?!? But it's okay...as long as we both have Honda loving and we continue to build fast ass Hondas, it's all good!! (Going to give a hand to someone who's building a B20 VTEC actually. A B20 that's resleeved)


That I want to know too!!! But I'm pretty sure the search button should be a big help!! But yeah, no replacement for displacement!!!

 

so other people can take our engine and have a great time with mods. and our egnine in our own car is much more difficult.
crazy system in a crazy world

 

Haha. That's a good thing about Hondas. Everything fits into everything!!!

 

Thanks

 

Hey man, I think I was trying to draw a comparison that got messed up....

You said this:
"That's true but if the K24 frankinstien has the same reliability problems as the B20 frankinstien, I would stick with the DC5Rs."

All I meant was 2 things....

1) B20 frankenstien doe not necessarily have problems because of what it is....it may ecause of the builder.

2) Likening a K24 vtec to a B20 vtec might not be accurate. You are correct that a B20 never came vtec, but since a K24 does it could be totally different....like, maybe the K24 vtec is just like having a TSX motor....

 

Save from the slightly higher CR ratio for the A2