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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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High Flow Cat?

Catbacks to me are overpriced so Im debating on getting a high flow cat and header instead. Is it worth putting a HF cat on a tsx rather than sound or would there be a noticeable increase?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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If you feel catbacks are overpriced, then they are. They are pretty much only for looks and sound (you gain like 2 to 3 whp, but that doesn't really register on the butt dyno) .

A high flow cat will make a pretty good difference in power. The stock 04/05 has a 900 cell cat, the 06/07s have 200 cell cats, and the RT has an 100 cell cat. I remember somewhere that a reputable member gained 10whp from an RT cat with an 04/05 TSX and posted a dyno chart to go with it. Combined with a header, it will make a very noticable difference in power.

However, if you do decide to go with the RT cat, there are some things you should know. It will give you a CEL eventually for faulty catalyst and mine rattled alot because of the floating flange design.

You can get spark plug defoulers to take care of the CEL and get the flanges welded to take care of the welding.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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get a custom one that doesn't throw a CEL or make some rattle

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Old May 15, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by activeaero
If you feel catbacks are overpriced, then they are. They are pretty much only for looks and sound (you gain like 2 to 3 whp, but that doesn't really register on the butt dyno) .

A high flow cat will make a pretty good difference in power. The stock 04/05 has a 900 cell cat, the 06/07s have 200 cell cats, and the RT has an 100 cell cat. I remember somewhere that a reputable member gained 10whp from an RT cat with an 04/05 TSX and posted a dyno chart to go with it. Combined with a header, it will make a very noticable difference in power.

However, if you do decide to go with the RT cat, there are some things you should know. It will give you a CEL eventually for faulty catalyst and mine rattled alot because of the floating flange design.

You can get spark plug defoulers to take care of the CEL and get the flanges welded to take care of the welding.
04/05 = 900 CELL
06 = 400 CELL
RT = 200 CELL
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hrj
get a custom one that doesn't throw a CEL or make some rattle

Is that a Metal cat?
JTso special?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by activeaero
If you feel catbacks are overpriced, then they are. They are pretty much only for looks and sound (you gain like 2 to 3 whp, but that doesn't really register on the butt dyno) .

A high flow cat will make a pretty good difference in power. The stock 04/05 has a 900 cell cat, the 06/07s have 200 cell cats, and the RT has an 100 cell cat. I remember somewhere that a reputable member gained 10whp from an RT cat with an 04/05 TSX and posted a dyno chart to go with it. Combined with a header, it will make a very noticable difference in power.

However, if you do decide to go with the RT cat, there are some things you should know. It will give you a CEL eventually for faulty catalyst and mine rattled alot because of the floating flange design.

You can get spark plug defoulers to take care of the CEL and get the flanges welded to take care of the welding.
I just pulled the cat cell numbers from memory, might not be 100% right, but it illustrates the situation
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
04/05 = 900 CELL
06 = 400 CELL
RT = 200 CELL
thanks for the correction
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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are there any instructions out there to make a custom CAT? Also, what are "spark plug defoulers"? I have no idea what those are, any link to a reputable site to get them?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by activeaero
thanks for the correction
Yeah, for sure man. Good post though
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Is that a Metal cat?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by KapVu
"spark plug defoulers"


You don't need to get this anti fouler if you have a well built hi-flow cat. I don't have one and no CEL.

What it does is to "Get rid of the CEL caused by a raceheader or testpipe. The simulator works by relocating the sensor away from flow of exhaust, tricking the sensor into thinking it is reading the correct amount".
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hrj


You don't need to get this anti fouler if you have a well built hi-flow cat. I don't have one and no CEL.

What it does is to "Get rid of the CEL caused by a raceheader or testpipe. The simulator works by relocating the sensor away from flow of exhaust, tricking the sensor into thinking it is reading the correct amount".
I ran my RT cat for 15000 miles + without a CEL, then one day I got it. When I installed the defouler it went away right away. Might as well install once when you install the cat. It will only take 5 extra minutes.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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I don't have RT cat.
Unlike RT cat which uses an unknown cat core, Metal Cat is a working catalytic converter core.
I have had my cat for a lil' while, no problem so far, not even a single issue.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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does the rt make a difference in sound?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX2345
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TSX2345, do you know the cell count of the Renault cat?
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mltk53
does the rt make a difference in sound?
It, and the Magnaflow I had before it, made the exhaust sound a little louder.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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I run the RT cat and no check engine light and no rattles, you might be having rattles cause you didn't torque it down right.... I also run it with the CT catback and it sounds great! Plus a lil tiny extra mileage and a lil registry on the butt dyno
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Old May 15, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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if you do want to get a defouler go with www.strutking.com
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TodaSi
TSX2345, do you know the cell count of the Renault cat?
I don't.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TodaSi
TSX2345, do you know the cell count of the Renault cat?
If I am not mistaken it's a diesel cat, I cannot find the source which I read it from. It's also suppose to last 100k+ miles
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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I got a magnaflow highflow cat and basically its obII so they had no issue with the check engine light.

Also my exhaust (fujitsubo) on 05 was noticiably louder than before.

cat = 900 cell
highflow lower so 400
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by lcrazyaznl
I got a magnaflow highflow cat and basically its obII so they had no issue with the check engine light.

Also my exhaust (fujitsubo) on 05 was noticiably louder than before.

cat = 900 cell
highflow lower so 400
Magnaflow is 300. Are they OBII? I don't really know but they do throw up some CEL sometimes, whenever I drove slow @ a constant speed, weird.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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so what are our options as far as high flow cats and what are their prices?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hrj
I don't have RT cat.
Unlike RT cat which uses an unknown cat core, Metal Cat is a working catalytic converter core.
I have had my cat for a lil' while, no problem so far, not even a single issue.
where did you purchase that?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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what's the cell count on the Metal Cat and do you have to custom make those? How do you go about that?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
where did you purchase that?
I forgot where I purchased the core. You can just google it.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by KapVu
what's the cell count on the Metal Cat and do you have to custom make those? How do you go about that?
200.
Yes.
http://www.metalcat.com.au/
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Will the rt cat pass the emissions test?
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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If you don't have a check engine light and they don't do the sniffer test in your state then yes
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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RT will pass a sniff test too. At least, here in VA.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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would it be beneficial for me to swap the Mugen Cat for the RT Cat?
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Old May 18, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tsxdriver
would it be beneficial for me to swap the Mugen Cat for the RT Cat?
I believe your Mugen cat has a different front exhaust flange.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by tsxdriver
would it be beneficial for me to swap the Mugen Cat for the RT Cat?
No no, keep the Mugen
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Old May 18, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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For an '04/'05 owner, would it be beneficial to go with a stock '06 cat? Not as extreme, but still, sounds like a big jump.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hrj
I forgot where I purchased the core. You can just google it.
i googled and found NOTHING!
HRJ where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
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Old May 19, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by vthree
i googled and found NOTHING!
HRJ where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
I found nothing too. Maybe no one carries Metal Cat anymore
Btw, it's quite hard to make one since you have to get the correct flanges, stainless steel pipe with the correct dia & length, a good welder, etc...
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Old May 19, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hrj
I found nothing too. Maybe no one carries Metal Cat anymore
Btw, it's quite hard to make one since you have to get the correct flanges, stainless steel pipe with the correct dia & length, a good welder, etc...
ok screw it. i'll trade you my 06 one. for yours ;-) lol
TRADEEEEEEEEEEE Lmao
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