jiggaman

"We do plan on offering a supercharger kit for the TSX, hopefully by late spring. Stay tuned!"

quote from comptech rep.

Dan Martin

Oh shit!

cmf

That's what I'm talking about ...supercharger..... mmmmmmmmmmmm

7or8

Oh-boy...the fun begins now....

Stokeless_TSX

hmmm maybe this over a turbo for now hehehe

xizor

i can see that voiding the warranty for about everything under the hood. maybe in 4 yrs

Stokeless_TSX

fuk a warranty lol

Wess

LoL the warranty is the best part. I personally like a turbo because it kicks in when you punch it, and that's really the only time that you need it. I don't like superchargers because of that reason right there, so I'm going to wait for the turbo, haha twin turbos would be sick.

l8ers
Wess

Crazytree

I saw two young Filipino guys at the Acura dealership last time I was there. They had done something stupid and ruined their transmission. Price tag? A cool $8,000 with labor.

Dan Martin

Some good manufacturers will replace the OEM warranty on the engine when you buy their supercharger. I know Dinan does this for BMWs.

kurt_bradley

Comptech is the only company that Acura supports under warranty as a whole. Any Comptech parts that you have installed by the Acura dealer will be covered under your factory warranty. What aftermarket performance products company that makes parts for our applications can say that? None. The only drawback to the blower for a TSX is that there is going to have to be one serious upgrade to the gearbox to hold down the torque. Yet another reason to look into an LSD for the car. The Phantom Grip isn't bad for the cash.

jiggaman

don't some Acura dealerships cover comptech parts?

Dan Martin

Kurt, are you saying that Acura would honour warranty work on a Comptech supercharged engine????
Why would they do that? This could only cost Acura money. Is Comptech somehow linked to Acura (like Alpina is with BMW)?

jiggaman

i think they are because i get this Acura lifestyle type promotional magazine and there was an article in it about comptech. Why else would comptech have been in there if this magazines sole purpose is surely to promote the Acura name.

jiggaman

was looking to see how much the comptech supercharger kit would cost and saw that for the CL it runs about 4500 bux. guess i can dream then. i doubt i'll be shelling out that kind of cash anytime soon.

kurt_bradley

The answer is yes to all 3 questions. They have an agreement. It's a cool arrangement.

tnguyen88

Acura will, most likely, cover Comptech parts under warranty if you buy the parts and have them installed by a dealer. Of course, you'll probably pay quite a more than you would for it from somewhere else. So, yes, there is a way for Acura to make money off selling Comptech parts.

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Are you sure you didn't get it backward? A supercharger provides instant power when you need it. A typical turbocharge setup has a little lag time waiting for it to spool up before power kicks in.

Dan Martin

Do you know if this is also true north of the border?

TSX Hokie

Superchargers are such a 'brute force' way of increasing effective engine displacement. They lower the overall efficiency of your car's propulsion system, but allow you to burn more fuel. I think they are more appropriate for American muscle cars with V8s than highly tuned Japanese 4-cyls. Turbochargers recover energy that would have been wasted anyway; a more elegant approach IMHO.

Dan Martin

From what I've read, turbos are probably better for small displacement engines such as ours.

Be sure to bring your rice filter with you but there is some good reading to be found here: http://www.hstuner.com/7775/Supercharger-Turbo.html

xizor

turbo's are probably the way to go (and the big fad recently). but you aren't likely to detonate your engine with a supercharger. SC will give a good instant increase in HP, but there's a limit to how far it can go. Turbo's use wasted energy, but they also create back pressure by restricting the exhaust flow. As one post in Dan's link says, Turbo is good for everything but autocrossing, where a SC would rule. A blowoff valve does sound cool though.

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TinkySD

Is this always true or dependent upon the dealership? When i called Justin's dealership asking if they installed comptech parts they said they install no aftermarket parts. Do youthink that was only because I didn't buy though them?

Maxboost

That's what happened to me when i asked them if they can instally Comptech parts on my car and my dealer said that they will NOT install any aftermarket parts on my car since they don't want to be responsible for any damage. BUT they will work on the car under full warrantee as long as that aftermarket part didn't cause any problem to the car.

captainjack

Did you mean big fad?

JTso

iTrader: (2)

Oh yes, you can easily run into detonation problem with either SC or TC. SC actually has another "tip-in" detonation problem that TC probably won't have due to the fast boost build-up when the ECU is still operating in closed loop mode for a split second.

This tip-in problem happens right at the moement when transitioning from vacuum to boost. That's why Hondata has an option to allows you to exit out of closed loop mode while in vacuum to eliminate this problem.

kurt_bradley

Dealers have to be a Comptech dealer before they can do the install, but there are a whole lot of them out there. I don't know about Canada dealers having anything to do with it, being that Comptech is a US company (and I don't work in a Canadian store).

xizor

another thing, as far as I know aftermarket turbos wont pass inspections, at least where I live. That's another reason some people have to go with SC

Stokeless_TSX

hmmm when i was living in VA i never worried about the inspections as long as the vehicle was safe they didnt really seem to care...has things changed int he last 5 years????

xizor

well what county did you live in? Fairfax has emissions inspections so its much more strict than the rest of the state

Stokeless_TSX

i lived in VA beach... i was stationed there with the navy dont really no what county it was but there wasnt emissions when i was there though just an inspection

ODUB

im goin with an S/C because im an autocrosser, not a drag racer

JTso

iTrader: (2)

So, are you saying that oem turbo cars are designed for drag racing?

Nevermind, I know that's your preference and it's perfectly okay.

hondata

Not true for the K20a2 and K24A2 ivtec engines. Up to around 10 pounds of boost (300hp) a non intercooled supercharger is about as efficient as an intercooled turbo on the RSX-S engine and TSX engine. Advancing the cam helps tremendously to increase the efficiency of the engine and lower the intake temperatures.

Drop in fuel economy at worst would be about 1mpg.

Superchargers preserve the rev happy nature of the Honda engine - the more you rev it the better it goes.

The TSX engine will work well at the top end with forced induction. With a long stroke and high piston speeds the torque drops off rapidly after 6000 rpm for a NA motor. With forced induction it will not.

acuratsxms

Dear Hondata,
How is the research going it the 05 TSX ecu. I have noticed that the 05 RSX ecu has been dumped for a k-pro in which one sends their own 04 ecu and ya'll play with it and send it back with a wiring harness. Is this what is going to happen to the 05 TSX? Thank man. love ya'lls work

PixelHarmony

I think he's just referring to the s/c having greater low end power than a turbo. Still, that'll put you in a different racing class... and with a TSX, even running it with a CAI puts you at a larger disadvantage.

Stokeless_TSX

I am just gonna wait for MR Heel toe to come out with his kit and see what happens then. But I really want a K pro. =(

madmanmax3000

what happened to this kit??? its in the comptech brochure...but where is it?

N_Smith

It'll be under my hood once the Acura dealer calls me back with the quote!

rmpage

Were you at Dam Neck? I went to an AEGIS team trainer down that way. VA sucks. 32nd street San Diego 4 lyfe dawg.