Hello people
i am planning to get a big brake kit in the near future, either going for Brembo or StopTech set-up, has anyone here had any experience with these big brake kits? if yes, some inputs please (not necessarily for TSX application), any other info related to these two kits will be appreciated too

more and more people start saying that StopTech kit outperforms Brembo's, what do you guys think!? true!? anyone had exp with both of them!? (sorry, i've never touched brakes before^^)

by the way, where will be good places to get these kits in better prices except buying them from the official sites? has anyone heard any good prices lower than the retail $$!? (too bad i am not in the USA now, otherwise i will start making phone calls^^)

thanks so much

 

If you call StopTech directly they will tell you where to get the best deal. I ordered mine directly through them. I have heard the same about comparing StopTech to Brembo. I went for StopTech replacements, and have no problems. With the new pads (Endless) , they bite really hard, and braking has improved dramatically. Couldn't imagine how much better it would be with a bigger kit!

 

On a related note, anyone ever had experience with the Rotora big break kit? I've seen stores offer kits for the TSX, and they seem to be about 500 less than the stoptech kit, and nearly 1000 less than the brembos.

 

so CMF , your stoptech rotors are the same size as stock? are they slotted or drilled?

 

cmf...
thanks for the info, i'm glad to hear that you are quite satisfied with the StopTech rotors, will you go for the whole BB kit in the future!? if i remember correctly, you bought the front replacement StopTech rotors, do you mind telling me how much that is!?^o^

 

my friend got the Rotora BB kit on her RSX, she's really satisfied with it

 

My rotors are same size as stock, drilled. At the current time, StopTech only offers front replacements and obviously the BBK. For my rear rotors, I am running Rotora drilled rotors. Rotora offers the BBK as well for the front. To be honest, as far as looks are concerned, I like the Rotoras better, can't explain it, but it looks better. Braking power appears to come more from the front, and I can't complain about how my brakes work. A million times better than stock. I paid roughly 200 to 250 per axle for the replacement rotors, and another 200 for all four pads.
I will post better pics than I had before hopefully tomorrow. I still need to get pics for those that wanted to see the strut bar, but I am in the middle of detailing the car right now.
Oh yeah, I do plan to do a BBK for the front sometime, but it will probably be something with Endless or Project Mu. Right now I am saving some money for my new project....04 RSX-S

 

has anyone else had experience with Brembo/StopTech big brake kit!?

 

quite a few guys on the ACL forum have the Rotoras and I know for sure that one has the Brembos. You might wander over there and ask. I haven't heard any complaints from any of our members.

 

if you ever plan on using your brakes hard...stay away from rotora....

I personally love the brembo lotus kit...really good bite...no fade...but it's really a waste of money if you don't get to use it to 100%

 

dorikin...
do you know what kinda brake pad is in the TSX Brembo big brake kit? can't find it from their catalog
thanks^^

 

i have no idea dude...call up brembo

 

there seems to be a common misconception about bbk's on how much they 'improve' braking...but unless you upgrade suspension/tires....the maximum stopping grip is still the same, even with bbk's.

I can't say for brembos...but rotoras import their brake discs from china for under 10 bucks and drill them here

 

You have proof for that statement before you mislead people????? I ordered a set of rear replacements that had to be made. Took 3 days to have them made from scratch and shipped to me. That is some damn fast service from China. Rotora didn't do the drilling either. They sent out a request to their supplier in the US who in turn made em.

What products are not made in China or some third world country for that matter. Being made in China for under 10 bucks sounds like large profits for Rotora, and I am sure if that is FACT, Rotora is not the only company getting their rotors from there!

 

i know they drill it here because they buy cnc machines/drill presses from my friend's company...now they might have done yours somewhere else but why buy all the equipment and not do it in-house?

All i'm saying is that my friends have used rotora and they basically suck if you use them hard...now if you're only going for looks then rotoras are plenty good..heck..anything made at home is good for show =)

You got a point though...which part isnt' made in china these days? The 5zigen parts here are not even made in Japan...they never give us the good stuff =(

 

Can you get the ABS to come on on dry pavement? If so, the largest brakes won't stop you any faster, what they will do is allow you multipe stops without fading. If you buy big brakes they are for show.
Often a BBK results in worse stopping distances due to the lack of F/R balance. And as for drilled rotors, great for street [bling]cruizin[/bling], but lousy for actual high-performance driving. Brakes are heat sinks, drilling holes removes material and makes the sink smaller, decreasing their ability to disperse heat and prevent fading. Oh, yeah in addition to all that bbk's can lead to worse handling to due to the increased unsprung weight.

Good tires, fresh brake fluid, properly bled lines, and good pads will stop you for 99.9% of street applications. If you are tracking your car, it is a whole different ballgame.

/bill

 

Absolutely. This is the first place anyone should start if they're looking for better brakes.



There are a lot of "performance" brake kits that have never had R&D done on them to ensure they work better than stock. StopTech and Brembo make great kits and you can be confident in their design.

Not quite. Drilling can weaken the rotor which has been known to cause cracking under EXTREME conditions but the holes allow gasses and oil to escape from the surface which does help braking. Slotted rotors are the best solution because they offer the same performance gains as drilling without weakening the structure of the rotor.



Unsprung weight is the enemy.

 

From what I've heard outgassing is not a problem with newer brake pads and this benefit is no longer applicable. I'll see if I can document this though rather than spout off with no data.

The drilling does remove *some* material, albeit not much I will concede. Drilled and slotted are mainly comsetic, with the edge going to slotted for the reasons you mentioned above that catastrophic brake failure, while rare, is more likely with drilled rotors.


/bill

 

No problem. It's all good conversation.

This is from StopTech's FAQ:

 

good point!

if you don't upgrade ur tires...than BBK's don't do jack....bbk's will allow you to outbrake another car into a corner because you achieve 100% braking faster than someone with a smaller brake disc radius and that is it...u'll reach 100% braking 0.1 secs faster but translate that into 100mph and you get teh picture

 

used rotora bbk on my rsx, good set up for streets and weekend tracking events.

 

yup, big brake kits don't give out shorter stopping distance, and they sometimes even cause some HP loss due to larger/heavier calipers/rotors and blah, but they do offer the ability to stop the car repeatedly and efficiently in extreme conditions, less fade, longer brake life, and as someone mentioned...show purposes
i think i will go for Michelin Pilot PS 2 to accompany w/ my new volks, and prob Brembo BBK after that, which means...no time for playing anymore, work work work

 

you won't lose hp ...but u'll really mess up the brake balance...unless of course you spend the big bucks and get the full kit.....i need to hit the lottery damn it

 

would you guys like a stoptech brake group buy?

 

Oh man that would be sweet. I don't have that kind of coin for toys right now but I'm sure some of our other members would crack open their wallets for some stoptech goodness.

 

ill put something together and post it up tomorrow.

 

Cool. Do you know if the StopTech kit works with the stock wheels?

 

what do you mean by "full kit"?
as for the HP loss, the extra rolling mass sometimes do cause decrease in HP, there was a show on Speed Vision, they put a set of StopTech BBK onto their RSX, and it turns out to have the same stopping distance as the stock brake system and a couple HP decrease, owell...surely the amount decreased can be ignored

 

I think StopTech said they would fit inside of 17's with no problems, but they also assured me my replacement rotors would be direct replacements, black coating and all. Right now I am going back and forth with them to get my money back.
I know going with their replacement rotors is a bad idea right now, however, the BBK is a different story.

 

full kit = upgraded brakes/calipers/pads on all four corners and balanced for full braking


i've heard a lot of good stuff about stoptechs...good luck dude...i wish i had the money =(