Variable Valve Timing Systems
Variable Valve Timing Systems
Does anyone know the history, i.e. who was the first, and what are the different types like vvt with lift, intake/exhaust, etc...
I'm under the impression (like most ppl) that VTEC was the first that varied valve timing and lift, but what about other systems like VANOS, double VANOS, VVT-i, VVL, etc?
what's the timeline look like? and what are the differences?
someone was telling me that i-VTEC was copied from bmw's double VANOS, which I thought was BS, but that was what inspired my curiosity.....
I'm under the impression (like most ppl) that VTEC was the first that varied valve timing and lift, but what about other systems like VANOS, double VANOS, VVT-i, VVL, etc?
what's the timeline look like? and what are the differences?
someone was telling me that i-VTEC was copied from bmw's double VANOS, which I thought was BS, but that was what inspired my curiosity.....
Originally Posted by supraken
....someone was telling me that i-VTEC was copied from bmw's double VANOS, which I thought was BS, but that was what inspired my curiosity.....
Intro to VANOS (first intro'd in 1992 -- Honda beat them by at least two years)
Which system was first commercially availible is a good question....
VTEC is definitely the first out of the ones you list, but I'm thinking that some high-end cars (Porsche, Ferrari, etc.) might have had variable valve control even earlier. Let me do some research.....

EDIT: Here's one that compares VVTL-i (Toyota), VarioCam Plus (Porsche), and i-VTEC. It says Variocam was first used in '91. Honda had VTEC in late 1990 on the MY '91 NSX.
Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
This is BS because VANOS only controls timing (in a much better way that VTEC). VTEC changes timing AND lift. It's a completely different type of system.
Intro to VANOS (first intro'd in 1992 -- Honda beat them by at least two years)
Which system was first commercially availible is a good question....
VTEC is definitely the first out of the ones you list, but I'm thinking that some high-end cars (Porsche, Ferrari, etc.) might have had variable valve control even earlier. Let me do some research.....
[b]EDIT: Here's one that compares VVTL-i, VarioCam Plus (Porsche), and i-VTEC. It says Variocam was first used in '91. Honda had VTEC in late 1990 on the MY '91 NSX.
Intro to VANOS (first intro'd in 1992 -- Honda beat them by at least two years)
Which system was first commercially availible is a good question....
VTEC is definitely the first out of the ones you list, but I'm thinking that some high-end cars (Porsche, Ferrari, etc.) might have had variable valve control even earlier. Let me do some research.....

[b]EDIT: Here's one that compares VVTL-i, VarioCam Plus (Porsche), and i-VTEC. It says Variocam was first used in '91. Honda had VTEC in late 1990 on the MY '91 NSX.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
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Edit: Still trying to find out when Ferrari first started their "3D" cams....
Edit: Here's a website that mentions the Ferrari cams, and still claims that Honda was first overall. But they seem like H-fanboys, so I don't know how credible this is....

Edit: This website mentions the 3D cams in the 70s (Ford!). But it talks about the cam controlling fuel delivery, which leaves me
....
Originally Posted by ClutchPerformer
It's the only smiley that made sense. 
Edit: Still trying to find out when Ferrari first started their "3D" cams....
Edit: Here's a website that mentions the Ferrari cams, and still claims that Honda was first overall. But they seem like H-fanboys, so I don't know how credible this is....
Edit: This website mentions the 3D cams in the 70s (Ford!). But it talks about the cam controlling fuel delivery, which leaves me
....

Edit: Still trying to find out when Ferrari first started their "3D" cams....
Edit: Here's a website that mentions the Ferrari cams, and still claims that Honda was first overall. But they seem like H-fanboys, so I don't know how credible this is....

Edit: This website mentions the 3D cams in the 70s (Ford!). But it talks about the cam controlling fuel delivery, which leaves me
....Thanks for the feedback.
When I tried to find info from
(well, meaning research on the net)
I was getting different things, but no clear cut on the history and in depth comparison between the few technologies....btw, not that it really matters, from I recall VTEC was first introduced in '89 and first put in production use on the NSX I believe in '90
VANOS is basically VTC (which is part of i-VTEC). Therefore VANOS, VTC and VVT-i are the same. Double VANOS means variable valve timing on the exhaust cams as well, something Honda has always had on their DOHC VTEC systems.
VTEC is 2 step valve-timing (3-steps in the economy VTEC D15 engine) and 2 step valve-lift.
VVTL-i is VTEC's 2 step valve lift plus variable valve timing (in essence, the same as i-VTEC).
Variocam has 3 step valve-timing, and Variocam Plus has 2 step valve-timing and 2-step valve-lift (Same as VTEC, but Porsche only implements it on the intake cam).
VTEC is 2 step valve-timing (3-steps in the economy VTEC D15 engine) and 2 step valve-lift.
VVTL-i is VTEC's 2 step valve lift plus variable valve timing (in essence, the same as i-VTEC).
Variocam has 3 step valve-timing, and Variocam Plus has 2 step valve-timing and 2-step valve-lift (Same as VTEC, but Porsche only implements it on the intake cam).
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to be braging about VTEC and double VANOS and Valvetronic.

