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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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For those of you who said my car would suck once fixed the wait is almost over, This Thursday September 22nd I will finally get my hands on it. Charlie (body shop guy) spent extra time on it to get it aligned back to factory standard is has been repaired back as good or better than before. Like I said no frame damage but like u can see from the pics, some damage to the wheel wells. I'll have pics and everything up definently by the weekend, prolly thursday, after I wash it.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Might be too late, but see if he'll swap some aftermarket parts in instead of OEM parts.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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You're smoking large quantities of crack to think it'll ever be as close or better than what it was the day it left the factory.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
Might be too late, but see if he'll swap some aftermarket parts in instead of OEM parts.
i was gonna do rims and stuff like a body kit but I don't have the cash
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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You're smoking large quantities of crack to think it'll ever be as close or better than what it was the day it left the factory.
honestly do you have any proof to back that up? I don't understand why if its returned to all the factory standards it can't be just the same?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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honestly do you have any proof to back that up? I don't understand why if its returned to all the factory standards it can't be just the same?
To put it simply, take a piece of metal. Now bend that piece of metal. Ok.. now try to get that piece of metal back to the same exact way it was before you bent it.

I'm more than sure your bodyshop did a great job fixing it up. But I have to agree with cmf on this one. Unless you got a brand new car, there's no way that you're going to get a car back to factory standards.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltForge
To put it simply, take a piece of metal. Now bend that piece of metal. Ok.. now try to get that piece of metal back to the same exact way it was before you bent it.

I'm more than sure your bodyshop did a great job fixing it up. But I have to agree with cmf on this one. Unless you got a brand new car, there's no way that you're going to get a car back to factory standards.
I agree. Anyone who tells you different just wants to make you feel better. You'll never have that same "feeling" you had before that accident (and neither will your TSX).
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltForge
To put it simply, take a piece of metal. Now bend that piece of metal. Ok.. now try to get that piece of metal back to the same exact way it was before you bent it.

I'm more than sure your bodyshop did a great job fixing it up. But I have to agree with cmf on this one. Unless you got a brand new car, there's no way that you're going to get a car back to factory standards.
he didn't "bend" it back, I got a whole new front
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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It ain't never gonna be the same as brand new. Don't worry about it being as good as new, and don't try to convince everyone of that either. I'm sure the bodyshop will try to do a very good job putting it back together. You're a young guy and I think having a Tsx, wrecked before or not, is pretty damn good.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cmf
You're smoking large quantities of crack to think it'll ever be as close or better than what it was the day it left the factory.
I don't care how long it spends in the shop or on a frame machine, a car is never the same again after it takes a major hit.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I don't care how long it spends in the shop or on a frame machine, a car is never the same again after it takes a major hit.
I dont know when you are going to understand that. We had the same discussion in the old thread and you kept saying the same thing. Its not going to change this time, but I do want to see pics.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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lol... this debate just never ends no matter how hard we try.

look. once ur car has been through an accident, the frame will never again be at its original factory condition no matter how good a mechanic can fix it to it's like-new state. in other words, ur car will never go back to having 100% of it's structural strength retained. the frame will be weaker. there's a reason y ur car was sold for cheap. it's a salvaged car no matter what bs excuse u try to defend it.

to put it in another perspective: once uve commited a felony, u no longer can ever have a clean record no matter how good a citizen u are after for the rest of ur life. think about it.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Seriously, everyone here is giving your different analogies. They are not to be taken literally. TypeRS just gave you another one as well.

Basically what everyone here is trying to tell you is that your car is never going to be the same as new. It may look like it's new, but it's not going to be the same as new.

But like Kenny said, enjoy your car. I'm more than sure the bodyshop did a good job getting it as close to original as humanly possible.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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You all must use crappy mechanics for crash repair. I had $13,000 worth of front end work done on my '97 4Runner. It drove just like it was new, and stayed that way for another 50K miles. It felt exactly the same at high speeds, fast in parking lots, cornering in 4wd in the rain, snow, and rock-crawling off-road. No difference from new at all. None.

If the frame isn't bent, then they don't have to straighten it. Anything else that's bent gets replaced. It's pretty simple.

If the frame is bent, then it's a different story. Our original poster claims no frame damage, therefore, I claim it can come out of this as new. And with better paint.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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This is not a total????!!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Take it to honda let them do a 171 point inspection. See if they certify it. The wont.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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I gotta agree that it will probably never be like it was when it came out of the showroom. However, you never knew what a brand new TSX felt like so you can't really compare. What you never had, you'll never miss. Good Luck with it, nonetheless.

BTW, I feel sorry for WClark. It kinda' seems like everytime he posts anything on here, he gets railed.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sclass88
BTW, I feel sorry for WClark. It kinda' seems like everytime he posts anything on here, he gets railed.
That's because he keeps posting the SAME THING. Basically that we are all idiots for not realizing that he got the greatest deal in the history of automotive transactions.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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That's because he keeps posting the SAME THING. Basically that we are all idiots for not realizing that he got the greatest deal in the history of automotive transactions.
haha... whatever. I guess you could say he's a little excited... ??
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:51 PM
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haha... whatever. I guess you could say he's a little excited... ??
kids loved to be tricked...i mean... silly rabbit, trix are for kids!
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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I don't understand why do you think this guy is better at making car than the professional in Japan?

even Acura factory won't fix it to the same spec since you found it in the junk yard, I think that's a true fact.
....and this body shop guy will huh?

does he have some best car maker certificate or something?
if not...how is it going to be better or the same even?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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kids loved to be tricked...i mean... silly rabbit, trix are for kids!

hahahaha
it's like...the more you get into collision your car become even better than before.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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I think it depends on what you all mean by "not as good" or "same". Given the choice, anybody in their right mind would choose an original car over one that has been wrecked and fixed..... but I am SURE that the car in question, if repaired correctly, will perform just as good as one that wasn't hit.

Perform better than new..... in the TSX, probably not, but I know some cars (fox body Mustang), will perform better after they come off a frame machine. Those cars weren't perfectly aligned (frame) from Ford.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wclark
Like I said no frame damage but like u can see from the pics, some damage to the wheel wells.
Some damage to the wheel well? Your wheel well isn't even there anymore!!!!

Anyways, hope your ride is in tip top shape. ENJOY! I know whenever my car goes in the shop even if it's just for a tune I love getting it back so I can imagine how much withdrawal you're in.

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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When I bought my first Mini Cooper 3 years ago I got into a ancident which looked a lot like yours.

People said the car will never be the same, sell it and so on. There was a very small group that said, if the body shop is great, you'll never know (once again, as long as the frame isn't bent).

Anyway 7,000 dollars later (that's State Farm). The car was perfect. I drove it for 2 more years without any issues. None.

The only thing I had to do is take it in twice more because the didn't blend the paint. I could see shade differences (they rush on that part).

I wish you the same luck.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:25 AM
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Take it to honda let them do a 171 point inspection. See if they certify it. The wont.
well they won't cause its a total, thats the only reason they wouldn't look at it.
BTW the frame isn't bent guys its just wheel well damage and cosmetic damage, nothing to the frame.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kyotousa
I don't understand why do you think this guy is better at making car than the professional in Japan?

even Acura factory won't fix it to the same spec since you found it in the junk yard, I think that's a true fact.
....and this body shop guy will huh?

does he have some best car maker certificate or something?
if not...how is it going to be better or the same even?
Japanese professionals don't hand-build TSXs, robots do. Given the same parts, who would put them together better: a robot or a good mechanic? Robots don't have any "feel" for stuff.

Consider bicycle wheels. Machine-built wheels last about 1/3 as long as handbuilt. I build my own wheels and they last much longer than any machine-built wheels I've had. A machine can build a wheel in 1 minute, but it takes me an hour. The tradeoff is worth it.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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well they won't cause its a total, thats the only reason they wouldn't look at it.
BTW the frame isn't bent guys its just wheel well damage and cosmetic damage, nothing to the frame.
man ur just contradicting yourself. u say the "frame isnt bent" but there's a reason y the car is labeled a "total". and tat is exactly y honda/acura won't authorize the inspection test. the "only reason" IS the main reason and how do u not know the frame has NO damage. that picture has the whole wheel wheel destroyed.

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man ur just contradicting yourself. u say the "frame isnt bent" but there's a reason y the car is labeled a "total". and tat is exactly y honda/acura won't authorize the inspection test. the "only reason" IS the main reason and how do u not know the frame has NO damage. that picture has the whole wheel wheel destroyed.

all "totaled" means in that the damage done is more then the worth of the car... it has nothing to do with the frame being bent or not. A car can easily be totalled with its structrual integrity intact. just my
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
...Like I said no frame damage but like u can see from the pics, some damage to the wheel wells...
Some? Good luck...
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Might be too late, but see if he'll swap some aftermarket parts in instead of OEM parts.
Who says they even used OEM parts? I dont care how friendly your body shop is, if your not standing there when they install the parts, you have no idea what they are putting back on your car.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Who says they even used OEM parts? I dont care how friendly your body shop is, if your not standing there when they install the parts, you have no idea what they are putting back on your car.

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CobaltForge
To put it simply, take a piece of metal. Now bend that piece of metal. Ok.. now try to get that piece of metal back to the same exact way it was before you bent it.

I'm more than sure your bodyshop did a great job fixing it up. But I have to agree with cmf on this one. Unless you got a brand new car, there's no way that you're going to get a car back to factory standards.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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man ur just contradicting yourself. u say the "frame isnt bent" but there's a reason y the car is labeled a "total". and tat is exactly y honda/acura won't authorize the inspection test. the "only reason" IS the main reason and how do u not know the frame has NO damage. that picture has the whole wheel wheel destroyed.

well the body shop guy has had it for 3 months now I would guess that a certified mechanic can tell whether or not the frame is bent
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Who says they even used OEM parts? I dont care how friendly your body shop is, if your not standing there when they install the parts, you have no idea what they are putting back on your car.
does this look OEM to you?

BTW he gave my dad a list of parts and we ordered them straight from acura. We mainly just needed airbags.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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why didn't you just buy a new car?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Some damage to the wheel well? Your wheel well isn't even there anymore!!!!

Anyways, hope your ride is in tip top shape. ENJOY! I know whenever my car goes in the shop even if it's just for a tune I love getting it back so I can imagine how much withdrawal you're in.

Seems like strut tower is totally bent too...
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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why didn't you just buy a new car?
well im 16 and don't have 30k, BTW the one I have only had cosmetic damage no frame damage and it has nav.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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so what did this whole piece together project cost you
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
does this look OEM to you?

BTW he gave my dad a list of parts and we ordered them straight from acura. We mainly just needed airbags.
OK, I am not going into that "as good as new" debate, I have no on that to share... I guess we've heard enough opinions on that anyway

Just some quick questions... did they order the entire front end and it's received as shown in that pic??? As in the a-pillar and wind shield chopped up? Or did this front end come from another TSX involved in a rear-only write-off crash?
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