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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Wow! What a fun thread!
At 16 you don't even know what a car should feel like, so to you it will be as good as new But to someone that has owned several vehicles and has drivin repaired/totalled vehicles, it will feel like a vehicle that was in the accident.

Here are a few things you will most likely find on your "Good as new" TSX:
- High speed on the highway I bet it shakes!
- I can almost bet your allignment will never be perfect again.
- I bet your windshield will creak more than anyone elses TSX already does.
- And as far as the body work goes, any good body person will be able to tell you exactly what was replaced on it.

Just deal with it! Get over it! It won't ever be the same! Plain and simple!


And to the guy that said after $13k worth of work on your 4 runner it was perfect.......you must have just replaced the grill if you got out that cheap. also....got pics?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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I've had body work that most people would never even know, but it was clear to me. The car is NEVER the same.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Guys, he never knew what it was like new. When you say it will never be the same, what do you mean? To him, it will be normal. To any of us who got a TSX that wasn't in an accident it wouldn't feel the same but to him, it would.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
does this look OEM to you?

BTW he gave my dad a list of parts and we ordered them straight from acura. We mainly just needed airbags.
Is it just me, or was your car NHB, and this new chopped off front end is CGP?!?!
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Is it just me, or was your car NHB, and this new chopped off front end is CGP?!?!
yeah the shop repainted it with NHB paint, since when do windshields creak? and i'll tell you guys about the ride when my dad gets it, he basically drives for a living about 70k on his cars every 2 years easily. He has test driven the TSX about 5 times and owned a TL, so if there are probs he's gonna know.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 05_TSX_GP
OK, I am not going into that "as good as new" debate, I have no on that to share... I guess we've heard enough opinions on that anyway

Just some quick questions... did they order the entire front end and it's received as shown in that pic??? As in the a-pillar and wind shield chopped up? Or did this front end come from another TSX involved in a rear-only write-off crash?
he ordered the front from a some guy in wisconsin or something like that, my dad was gonna order a new engine but 30k isn't bad at all. The guy was gonna sell us an engine with 10miles on it for 2k
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Man, looking at a 1/2 of that TSX makes it kinda scary but funny at the same time.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by drunkenbuda
Man, looking at a 1/2 of that TSX makes it kinda scary but funny at the same time.
it came from the factory
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
it came from the factory
My detector just hit full alert on that one. I could be wrong but I'm thinking they don't make 1/2 TSX's. Or chop up brand new TSX's to sell the halfs. Man this is silly.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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My detector just hit full alert on that one. I could be wrong but I'm thinking they don't make 1/2 TSX's. Or chop up brand new TSX's to sell the halfs. Man this is silly.
u can order them specifially just like you can order any part
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
u can order them specifially just like you can order any part
Hmmmm... I stand corrected! Good luck with your ride dude, I really hope it all works out for you. I missed the original story of what happened to this car. Care to fill me in?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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Hmmmm... I stand corrected! Good luck with your ride dude, I really hope it all works out for you. I missed the original story of what happened to this car. Care to fill me in?
uh well my dad got me hooked on a TSX, we found one with very little damage and decided to get it repaired. Thats the short one i'll search for the full one i wrote up.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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very little damage?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
does this look OEM to you?

BTW he gave my dad a list of parts and we ordered them straight from acura. We mainly just needed airbags.
You don't order this from the factory? This is someones X-car, factories don't ship half windshield's, that car had a VIN at one time....

I've toured many a Honda factory, they don't make part of a car, ever. This was someones old TSX careful cut up just for you. Nice job of it though. Some lucky RSX likely has that engine from it now
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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very little damage?
yeah a wheel well hood and bumber, not that much considering we just order the new part from acura
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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this is a lot of damage
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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this is a lot of damage
Oh that'll buff right out. I hear Meguire's is good stuff.

Are those Volks I see on that thing?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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After 2yrs of making payments Bob had to default on his loan, the bank took back the part not yet paid for....

Sadly Sally's TSX was only partly built when Honda Japan lost power in the great outage of Aug 05....

Paul wanting to be like most average American families did everthing he could to own 2.2 cars per household....

The new Acura Cert. Pre-build Cars program. Assemble yours today....

Honda in a new joint venture with Ikea announces.....(Allen wrench not included.)
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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I've got a great idea. Remove the hood and put a liner in where the engine was, and attach a tow hitch. Slap on two wheels, and you'd have the first TSX utility trailer!

Just think, a trailer with its own HID lights!
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
u can order them specifially just like you can order any part
I thought you said you got it from a guy in Wisconsin. And that there was a train wreak and you bought the front half from him because of the train wreak.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
does this look OEM to you?

BTW he gave my dad a list of parts and we ordered them straight from acura. We mainly just needed airbags.
If my bedroom was large enough (damn nyc apts.), I could put that in front of my bed and take a "ride" with my GF.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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so once again I am going to ask how much this is all costing.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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WOW dude! You are totally have no idea what are you talking about!!!!
That is a chopped up front end of some CGP TSX. They probably picked it up from some junk yard.
Good luck with it though.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
this is a lot of damage


But how is this very little damage?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wclark
yeah the shop repainted it with NHB paint, since when do windshields creak? and i'll tell you guys about the ride when my dad gets it, he basically drives for a living about 70k on his cars every 2 years easily. He has test driven the TSX about 5 times and owned a TL, so if there are probs he's gonna know.
Drives for a living and ONLY 70k every 2 years??
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MrChad

After 2yrs of making payments Bob had to default on his loan, the bank took back the part not yet paid for....

Sadly Sally's TSX was only partly built when Honda Japan lost power in the great outage of Aug 05....

Paul wanting to be like most average American families did everthing he could to own 2.2 cars per household....

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:47 AM
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wclark,

I don't know why everyone's capping on you. But, then again, that's what happens when you post on a public forum. You have to be ready for everyone's opinions.

I tend to agree that a car can be repaired to like new condition. However, it depends a lot on the skills of the people doing the work and how much time and money is put into the project. For example, I'll bet Chip Foose's shop would be able to restore the car back to better than new condition. They routinely do this w/ beat up old, rusted out muscle cars and the like. Of course, it costs a couple hundred grand to do it also.

That hyperbole aside, I think your car can be easily repaired to near or like new condition by skilled body shop technicians. I think the damage really doesn't look too bad. Just because the hood has been removed, it doesn't mean there's major damage.

Now, with respect to the issue of "frame damage", whether or not there is frame damage, consider the fact that your car will be sectioned. What that means is, the whole front end of your car - including the frame - will be cut and that salvaged CG front end will be grafted on. If you look at the CG front end, you can see the rocker panel/side sill cut. On a unibody car like the TSX, that cut part *IS* part of the frame. Even if there is no frame damage, make no mistake that the repair *WILL* involve cutting and welding of the frame. This in itself is not necessarily bad. Again, it depends on the quality of the work.

Would I keep a car that needed the type of repair where a whole front end needed to be grafted onto the car? Depends on how good the repairs turned out. I would keep an open mind about it until i drove it. Would I consciously buy a car that I knew had those repairs done? No. Who would?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Eeyore
My detector just hit full alert on that one. I could be wrong but I'm thinking they don't make 1/2 TSX's. Or chop up brand new TSX's to sell the halfs. Man this is silly.
and to think wclarke doesnt know what VTEC is or means
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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wclark,

I don't know why everyone's capping on you. But, then again, that's what happens when you post on a public forum. You have to be ready for everyone's opinions.

I tend to agree that a car can be repaired to like new condition. However, it depends a lot on the skills of the people doing the work and how much time and money is put into the project. For example, I'll bet Chip Foose's shop would be able to restore the car back to better than new condition. They routinely do this w/ beat up old, rusted out muscle cars and the like. Of course, it costs a couple hundred grand to do it also.

That hyperbole aside, I think your car can be easily repaired to near or like new condition by skilled body shop technicians. I think the damage really doesn't look too bad. Just because the hood has been removed, it doesn't mean there's major damage.

Now, with respect to the issue of "frame damage", whether or not there is frame damage, consider the fact that your car will be sectioned. What that means is, the whole front end of your car - including the frame - will be cut and that salvaged CG front end will be grafted on. If you look at the CG front end, you can see the rocker panel/side sill cut. On a unibody car like the TSX, that cut part *IS* part of the frame. Even if there is no frame damage, make no mistake that the repair *WILL* involve cutting and welding of the frame. This in itself is not necessarily bad. Again, it depends on the quality of the work.

Would I keep a car that needed the type of repair where a whole front end needed to be grafted onto the car? Depends on how good the repairs turned out. I would keep an open mind about it until i drove it. Would I consciously buy a car that I knew had those repairs done? No. Who would?
good point, but I just think thier taking the parts from the CG, like the fenders, bumper and stuff like that and then putting it on the NHB. im 99% positive that he didn't actually cut the car in half then put the stuff back on.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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I thought you said you got it from a guy in Wisconsin. And that there was a train wreak and you bought the front half from him because of the train wreak.
yeah and some of the parts (hood bumer) he ordered from acura.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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so once again I am going to ask how much this is all costing.
13k but I could be wrong, thats 13K total for repairs and the purchase of the car.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MrChad

After 2yrs of making payments Bob had to default on his loan, the bank took back the part not yet paid for....

Sadly Sally's TSX was only partly built when Honda Japan lost power in the great outage of Aug 05....

Paul wanting to be like most average American families did everthing he could to own 2.2 cars per household....

The new Acura Cert. Pre-build Cars program. Assemble yours today....

Honda in a new joint venture with Ikea announces.....(Allen wrench not included.)

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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dont listen to all these idiots. I think you did a great buy. i work wit rebuildables. These idiots would be surprise where these rebuildables end up. Some of them are driving one, and dont even know it.
No one never finds out. as long as the paint matches everything is all good!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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dont listen to all these idiots. I think you did a great buy. i work wit rebuildables. These idiots would be surprise where these rebuildables end up. Some of them are driving one, and dont even know it.
No one never finds out. as long as the paint matches everything is all good!!!
that was a worry of mine, I told charlie to order from acura based on the paint number on the door jam. Hopefuly it looks great, tomorrow's the day!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatypes
dont listen to all these idiots. I think you did a great buy. i work wit rebuildables. These idiots would be surprise where these rebuildables end up. Some of them are driving one, and dont even know it.
No one never finds out. as long as the paint matches everything is all good!!!

Sounds like an ethical thing your doing there
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Pretty much that car won't be back to factory spec because you'll have a nice SALVAGE TITLE on that car. No matter who you sell it or trade it to down the road you have to let them know you once wrecked your car.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatypes
dont listen to all these idiots. I think you did a great buy. i work wit rebuildables. These idiots would be surprise where these rebuildables end up. Some of them are driving one, and dont even know it.
No one never finds out. as long as the paint matches everything is all good!!!
Are you talking about stolen cars?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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Sounds like an ethical thing your doing there
I hate people who do that. I hate it even more when I specificaly ask them if it's been wrecked and they say no. Then I drive 45 min. to see the car and it has airbag covers that have been glued back on. Paint dripping down the back bumper. Uneven gaps. Parts painted that shouldn't be. AHHHH!!! Pisses me off thinking about it again!!!
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatypes
dont listen to all these idiots. I think you did a great buy. i work wit rebuildables. These idiots would be surprise where these rebuildables end up. Some of them are driving one, and dont even know it.
No one never finds out. as long as the paint matches everything is all good!!!

That's why people like me never buy used cars.

Anyone that knows what to look for can tell if the paint job on the car has been redone. Unless the whole car has been repainted, IT WILL be noticed someplace on the car.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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I hate people who do that. I hate it even more when I specificaly ask them if it's been wrecked and they say no. Then I drive 45 min. to see the car and it has airbag covers that have been glued back on. Paint dripping down the back bumper. Uneven gaps. Parts painted that shouldn't be. AHHHH!!! Pisses me off thinking about it again!!!
i can understand that, and i'd be mad too if that was the case for my car, my dad saw it today and he said it looked comepletely new, but he's gonna drive it tomorrw and he said if he feels any probs while driving he'll take it back to the shop and make them fix it.
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