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The 2004 TSX Automatic lost to the 2006 Civic EX Manual in acceleration:

TSX
0 - 60 MPH - 9.2
1/4 Mile - 17.1
45 - 65 MPH - 5.9

Civic
0 - 60 MPH - 8.6
1/4 Mile - 16.8
45 - 65 MPH - 5.6

Numbers provided by Consumer Reports.

 

woah 9.2 is extremely slow I aleast remember our car close to 7.8 for auto.
BUt CR always has slow times.

I did read the 2006 by CR has the best 70mph cruising/

 

9.2? I don't believe it.

 

Maybe they put in 87 octane in the tank and tested it.

 

I hope that is the case. I know the TSX is not a race car but damn.. $30k and 9.2 seconds.. i feel ashamed.

 

7.8 is for a stock manual. Modded goes to 7 and a slight below.

 

Why? You bought the wrong car if you thought it was ever "fast". I don't care what other cars can do... I care about what my car can do. New technology always outpaces old technology. I can buy an EVO and blow away most sports cars. Does this mean I'd rather be driving an EVO over those cars? No. Also, when it came out, the TSX was STILL the slowest - or close to it - of its competitors, but the gap wasn't very large, and those cars cost even more!

I also suggest you also be fair and post the times etc for the '04 BMW 325, Saab 9-3, Volvo S40, Merc C230, etc.

 

I have an 06 and no way is it that slow.

 

Consumer Reports tested the 5 speed automatic and the 9.2 sec 0-60 number is for that car. The manual will be faster. In any case, all the other 0-60 numbers I've seen reported for the TSX are in the mid to low 7's.

 

absolutely not. 9.2 seconds my ass.

 

Were they tested against each other?

If not, this means close to nothing. And if it is true, oh well. There's so much more to a car than 0-60.

 

I never claimed the TSX was fast or a race car. I'm just saying due to the car's class and price, it shouldn't be that slow. Come on now... 9.2 seconds? I know the car shines in other areas but when do you draw the line.. would you still be saying the same praises about the car if it was 10.5 seconds... I believe it should be at least in the mid 8's in stock form. At least that would be decent.. at least enough to keep up with the other 4 bangers in its class.

 

What other NA 4 bangers in the TSX's class does less than 9.2 seconds with an auto tranny?

 

The question should be.. which car doesn't do less than 9.2 seconds.

What are the 0-60 times on the following vehicles for auto tranny. i'm curious because i'm not sure..


Honda Accord EX I4
Nissan Altima 2.5
05 BMW 325I
Mazda 6 I4
Lexus IS250
Lexus IS300
05 AUDI A4
Mitsubishi Galant I4
Toyota Camry 4Cyl
etc.

 

Acura advertises this as a sport-luxury sedan. I don't know about you but I think speed is a big part of the definition of a sporty, fun to drive car. Speed is not the deciding factor, but it is an essential one when comparing cars. In most of the comparison tests between TSX and other cars in its class, the TSX is almost always the slowest. Of course the TSX shines in other areas but it would be just a better car if it has the speed and torque to match its other well-rounded features.

Notes: I am not whining about the lack of speed in the TSX; I am just pointing out speed is important in every car, and people will and do care about it alot.

 

That's why you buy a 6MT !

 

 

If anyone here thinks CR would get anything better than 8.0 sec out of an MT their dreaming. Consider the source.

 

How many times do you go from 0-60 anyway in daily driving?

 

haha what is this? Whats next guy TSX Vs new Honda Fit?

 

every day

 

Due to previous racing "engagements" I no long street race. I broke that rule yesterday morning and got schooled.

See this thread for more details:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27944

But I digress. I broke the rule again this morning. I was looking for a pure race bred machine when I bought my TSX.

After getting some breakfast, I was one block from work. I saw this man in the lane next to me and got that F&F look. Hell yeah it was on. I think his wife was with him as well, so I was really pumped to show them my exhaust tips. I flipped over into SS mode and gunned the throttle.

But what do you know; I heard that damn bell again. School Lesson #2 was another hard one. I snapped a picture of the winner of the race encounter. Sorry for the bad quality since it was from my phone. I am going to have to stop racing before someone gets hurt.

 

Just look at him smiling.... those old people are so cocky

 

Mine's an '05, but there's no way it's 9.2. Definitely in the 7's. Especially in sportshift. I have a red light that leads directly onto a long sweeping highway onramp. I do 0-70 just about everytime I leave my house.

 

^^^ Looks like Bill & Hillary in another 5-10 years...

 

CR is always 1-2 seconds off everyone else's testing times.

Auto TSX is probably low-mid 8s.

But really, if you test drove the car, what does it matter if some magazine says 1 second or 100 seconds? Did it get slower after you read the magazine article?

It was good enough before you read it, and nothing changed afterwards.

 

While certainly no speed demon the AT hardly feels underpowered.

 

I mean to beat a time

 

 

Best reply yet, definately.

 

No. But since everyone wondered what the 0 - 60 is for the Auto TSX, I tried to create a reference point for the fellow TSXers.


Vehicle of the same class:

2004 Audi A4 1.8T CVT
0 - 60 MPH - 8.8
1/4 Mile - 17.1
45 - 65 MPH - 5.4

2003 Saab 9-3 2.0T Vector Auto
0 - 60 MPH - 8.1
1/4 Mile - 16.4
45 - 65 MPH - 5.2

2005 Volvo S40 2.4i Auto
0 - 60 MPH - 9.4
1/4 Mile - 17.3
45 - 65 MPH - 6.0

Hopefully 2008 TSX 2.3 Turbo will save the day.

 

Honestly, these numbers are about as worthless as they come. Unless the cars were all tested on the same track, under identical weather conditions, by the same driver, using an identically consistent technique, the numbers are not directly comparable.

And seriously, I've seen number for the TSX AT range everywhere from 7.8 sec to the 9.2 sec that you quoted so it just goes to show you how much of a difference can exist with the varying test conditions.

If you want to show a true comparison, pull up one of the articles that does back to back testing of the cars in the same test on the same track. The more enthusiast oriented car rags often do this and you'll see that the TSX numbers are more than comparable to other cars in the class.

 

The guy who tested the TSX was probably a hefty ton+, while some anorexic girl tested the civic =)

 

The TSX, A4, and the S40 was in the same back to back test on the November 2004 issue of Consumer Reports.

 

But the time you listed weren't the same as the one in the issue of Consumer Reports right? I thought they test drove the Saab 9-3 Aero and S40 T5 which are alot faster than the times you listed.

 

S40 T5 was a whole lot faster than the 2.4i I've listed above. So was the Legacy GT Auto they tested in the same issue.

The conclusion is to tell myself not to drag race (on race track) with anyone out there except perhaps a Kia .

 

i think it feels underpowered when you're driving a loaner 5AT while your 6MT is having some work done

 

I don't think 9.2 is way off.....perhaps its high 8's. Somewhere on this site I saw a link to a video of a dyno test they did on blue 5AT (I think it was an 04 or 05). I believe you can find the video on vtec.net. In the test, they do a quarter mile test on the dyno machine. I believe that the 5AT hits 100km/h about 1.0 seconds before changing from 2nd to 3rd gear under full throttle. It takes just under 10 seconds before the car changes from 2nd to 3rd. Hence, I'm thinking just about 9 seconds would be the 0-100km/h time (because of the 1 second) ; perhaps 8.8 for the 0-60mph.

I'm thinking one can argue that the car was brand new and wasn't worked in. Or perhaps that someone manually changed gear the SS and hence is distorting my time calculations. Sorry I can't find the post at this time.

 

What is the point of this thread, the TSX and Civic are two completly different cars aimed at two different segments of the Market. The people on this form bought the TSX for a reason and it certainly was not becase it is a 400hp monster.

 

So save $6k and get a new Civic Si Navi and have a car that outpaces the TSX, auto or manual, in every respect.

Or be happy with the leather, the HIDs, the heated seats, etc and the TSX which is a great car.

Me - I'm trading my 02 TL for the Si later this year.