Top 10 cars for teens
02-03-2004, 01:53 AM
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Top 10 cars for teens
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must be cars for rich parents to afford for their teens.
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must be cars for rich parents to afford for their teens.
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02-03-2004, 03:30 AM
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my parents didnt buy me a car till i was a sophomore in college. the year was 93 and the model was an 85 nissan sentra hatchback. i had to park it on inclines so i could pop the clutch due to constant alternator troubles. i even took a girl out on a first date and she had to push start me because she didnt drive stick. and i thought i was lucky to even have wheels!
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these car for teens?! come on.. the write want more accident on the roads.. car for teens: honda civic.. toyota echo... chev Aveo... dodge neon... kia reo.... hyundai accent... deawoo lanos... suzuki swift.... ford focus.. They are good enough for teen. Aagin.. the writer have a major problem in his brain.
02-03-2004, 08:55 AM
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I submit that a base VW Jetta or Golf would be an excellent choice for a teen. You can get one for about $15000, and even though they are small, they weigh about 3000 lbs (quite heavy for their size) and have 5 airbags. Accident survivability is far better than most other "base" models.
Teens are so likely to smash up their first car that it seems silly to spend it on something nice and expensive. It makes even less sense to spend it on something that has lots of power.
Teens are so likely to smash up their first car that it seems silly to spend it on something nice and expensive. It makes even less sense to spend it on something that has lots of power.
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what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
i got a 25k car as my 17th birthday present, (rents paid, go figure.) but my parents waited a year to see how i drive. most of my friends had cars ranging from AT LEAST 20k, most of them in 35k range... and one bastard got a loaded 330xi. as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
my opinion is, the better car the teens get, the more careful they'll be, and they'll be able to handle the car better/easier to avoid accidents. think about it, if my car's brakes suck, it would be harder to avoid rear ending someone, etc.
i got a 25k car as my 17th birthday present, (rents paid, go figure.) but my parents waited a year to see how i drive. most of my friends had cars ranging from AT LEAST 20k, most of them in 35k range... and one bastard got a loaded 330xi. as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
my opinion is, the better car the teens get, the more careful they'll be, and they'll be able to handle the car better/easier to avoid accidents. think about it, if my car's brakes suck, it would be harder to avoid rear ending someone, etc.
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I got a 89 honda accord for my first car, im glad that i got a car, but DAMN WHAT A P.O.S.!
my parents paid about 3k for it, and i had to pay insurance.
i had it for about a year, then i bought my si.
my parents just bought my little brother, who is 17, a 2004 srt-4...lucky S.O.B.!
my parents paid about 3k for it, and i had to pay insurance.
i had it for about a year, then i bought my si.
my parents just bought my little brother, who is 17, a 2004 srt-4...lucky S.O.B.!
02-03-2004, 09:52 AM
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Re: Top 10 cars for teens
Originally posted by Agent_Chen
must be cars for rich parents to afford for their teens
must be cars for rich parents to afford for their teens
That's why the parents are rich!
Your experience may vary!
02-03-2004, 09:54 AM
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as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
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Originally posted by freeride149
what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
i got a 25k car as my 17th birthday present, (rents paid, go figure.) but my parents waited a year to see how i drive. most of my friends had cars ranging from AT LEAST 20k, most of them in 35k range... and one bastard got a loaded 330xi. as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
my opinion is, the better car the teens get, the more careful they'll be, and they'll be able to handle the car better/easier to avoid accidents. think about it, if my car's brakes suck, it would be harder to avoid rear ending someone, etc.
what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
i got a 25k car as my 17th birthday present, (rents paid, go figure.) but my parents waited a year to see how i drive. most of my friends had cars ranging from AT LEAST 20k, most of them in 35k range... and one bastard got a loaded 330xi. as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
my opinion is, the better car the teens get, the more careful they'll be, and they'll be able to handle the car better/easier to avoid accidents. think about it, if my car's brakes suck, it would be harder to avoid rear ending someone, etc.
You'll change your mind in a couple of years
02-03-2004, 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by jcg878
Sorry, but
You'll change your mind in a couple of years
Sorry, but
You'll change your mind in a couple of years
02-03-2004, 11:58 AM
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i hit the "eye opener" at 18, first car payment!
WOW!
follow that up with a mortgage at 20, then the tsx payment at 21.
now, my car's fate is up in the air, and i still have to make my payments untill it is deemed totalled or not.......
whats in store for 22? lol
WOW!
follow that up with a mortgage at 20, then the tsx payment at 21.
now, my car's fate is up in the air, and i still have to make my payments untill it is deemed totalled or not.......
whats in store for 22? lol
02-03-2004, 12:28 PM
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For the longest time, I drove my parents' old and discarded Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme (1978). It smelled like gasoline inside, would backfire now and then, had a crappy tape/radio deck, floated like it road on water (Raging Waters), and had a nasty tendancy to quit or hestitate on me whenever I punched the throttle (made my rear end clench everytime I tried to merge onto the freeway). But I survived. The car eventually just died on the freeway, was towed away, and I never saw the thing again (RIP).
Moral of the story, for a kid, any form of basic transportation is a luxury, and the older and crappier the car, the more memories you are going to have. It's a right of passage in a way. Really, all you need are four wheels, an engine, some semblance of a metallic body and a nice wide rear seat for....well, like I said, it's a right of passage.
I won't preach, but I think it's a bit decadent to give a kid, who hasn't really accomplished much in life yet (yeah, yeah, I know...well he/she volunteers for this that and the other, is an honor student, yeah, yeah....I mean really accomplish something in life) something that most people won't be able to afford in a lifetime. I just think it sends the wrong message at the wrong time. Let them find out, slowly but surely and with supervision and encouragement, how difficult life can be but also how rewarding it also can be when you actually work to attain that which you want.
Moral of the story, for a kid, any form of basic transportation is a luxury, and the older and crappier the car, the more memories you are going to have. It's a right of passage in a way. Really, all you need are four wheels, an engine, some semblance of a metallic body and a nice wide rear seat for....well, like I said, it's a right of passage.
I won't preach, but I think it's a bit decadent to give a kid, who hasn't really accomplished much in life yet (yeah, yeah, I know...well he/she volunteers for this that and the other, is an honor student, yeah, yeah....I mean really accomplish something in life) something that most people won't be able to afford in a lifetime. I just think it sends the wrong message at the wrong time. Let them find out, slowly but surely and with supervision and encouragement, how difficult life can be but also how rewarding it also can be when you actually work to attain that which you want.
02-03-2004, 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by freeride149
what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
At any rate, the insurance companies base their rates on actual claims experience. Perhaps you can explain why insurance rates for teens are sometimes 3-4 times what they are for a 40 year old.
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Yeah, no kidding...what happened to the days of buying whatever used POS was nearby. Case in point: my first car was a '72 Plymouth Duster (and I'm not even that old!). Had a great, bulletproof straight-6 in it (yeah, it was the granny duster). I got it off my boss' stepdaughter, cheap. You want a safe car, go with any of the old 70's 'Great American Land Yachts'. Chances are whatever you hit will be in a lot worse shape than you are.
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When I was starting to drive (at 17) I borrowed my dad's 1990 Accord LX. Then he got a 1997 Accord LX (with sea-mist green interior...mmmm). When I went away to school, my dad was working from home so I was "loaned" a 1999 Accord. The TSX is the first vehicle that I bought (and is largely a Honda Accord).
02-03-2004, 03:21 PM
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Yeah, no kidding...what happened to the days of buying whatever used POS was nearby.
Yeah, no kidding...what happened to the days of buying whatever used POS was nearby.
02-03-2004, 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by fdl
Teens are statistically the worst drivers. Seniors arent much better.
Teens are statistically the worst drivers. Seniors arent much better.
My first car was a 1964 Rambler. It cost $180. I had to pay for it, along with the insurance. My wife, however, got a freebie.
It was a 1963 Plymouth Valiant.
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What a joke. That article is embrassing to journalism in general, let alone the automotive press. To name a few blatant faux-pas:
- referring to Honda as "Honda Motor".
- presenting leasing as having cheaper payments without mentioning that unlike purchasing, there is no equity after the lease term.
- "inexpensive sports cars that are targeted at them, like Mitsubishi Motor's Lancer Evolution".
- not mentioning insurance costs and theft rates
- ignoring TCO factors like fuel economy, maintenance and depreciation.
- "Imprezza".
- referring to Honda as "Honda Motor".
- presenting leasing as having cheaper payments without mentioning that unlike purchasing, there is no equity after the lease term.
- "inexpensive sports cars that are targeted at them, like Mitsubishi Motor's Lancer Evolution".
- not mentioning insurance costs and theft rates
- ignoring TCO factors like fuel economy, maintenance and depreciation.
- "Imprezza".
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Originally posted by freeride149
what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
i got a 25k car as my 17th birthday present, (rents paid, go figure.) but my parents waited a year to see how i drive. most of my friends had cars ranging from AT LEAST 20k, most of them in 35k range... and one bastard got a loaded 330xi. as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
my opinion is, the better car the teens get, the more careful they'll be, and they'll be able to handle the car better/easier to avoid accidents. think about it, if my car's brakes suck, it would be harder to avoid rear ending someone, etc.
what the hell? dude, a lot of teens drive better and safer than older/old people on the road. teens wreck their cars trying to avoid hitting slow, dumb old drivers. true, teens tend to be careless, but don't assume they all wreck their first cars.
i got a 25k car as my 17th birthday present, (rents paid, go figure.) but my parents waited a year to see how i drive. most of my friends had cars ranging from AT LEAST 20k, most of them in 35k range... and one bastard got a loaded 330xi. as far as i remember, none of them wrecked their cars. minor scratches every now and then, got hit by older people every now and then, but didn't cause any accidents.
my opinion is, the better car the teens get, the more careful they'll be, and they'll be able to handle the car better/easier to avoid accidents. think about it, if my car's brakes suck, it would be harder to avoid rear ending someone, etc.
02-03-2004, 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by jdibella
I dont think this is 100% true. SOME teens would be more careful with their more expensive car, but MOST would take it for granted and figure 'hey if i wreck this one, mommy and daddy will buy me a new one'. I have paid for every car that I have owned. I get some help with insurance, but that is all. I put the down payment, I pay the monthly payment. I dont think a teenager needs a 30k car. That is just way to much and it asking for trouble. That's what I call SPOILED! Say what you want, but there is absolutely no reason why someone that young needs a car that expensive. A graduation from college gift, ok... but 17 or 18th birthday is just ridiculous....
I dont think this is 100% true. SOME teens would be more careful with their more expensive car, but MOST would take it for granted and figure 'hey if i wreck this one, mommy and daddy will buy me a new one'. I have paid for every car that I have owned. I get some help with insurance, but that is all. I put the down payment, I pay the monthly payment. I dont think a teenager needs a 30k car. That is just way to much and it asking for trouble. That's what I call SPOILED! Say what you want, but there is absolutely no reason why someone that young needs a car that expensive. A graduation from college gift, ok... but 17 or 18th birthday is just ridiculous....
02-03-2004, 09:03 PM
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most of you talk as if teens don't even deserve good cars. well off/rich kids will get new great rides and yea most people will either get freebies, be forced to pay for half, or pay for some part. beleive me, being a teen and in highschool kids don't think the way u think they do. if we get new expensive cars, we will take care of them. if it gets fucked up then its not nessecarilly the drivers fault or a result of uncaring for the car. \
gebbeth, i totally disagree with you. if a kids family is willing to buy hima new expensive car, then why can't we enjoy? yea it sucks if your parents can't buy youa car, but thats just the way things are. its sounds mean i know, but thats the way it always has been.
people act ignorant because they did not get some things in life, that gives you no right to judge a kid and then base what he gets on his/her accomplishments. if you were 17 and was offered a TSX for free by your parents, ur gonna tell me u wouldn't take it without a smile on your face?
gebbeth, i totally disagree with you. if a kids family is willing to buy hima new expensive car, then why can't we enjoy? yea it sucks if your parents can't buy youa car, but thats just the way things are. its sounds mean i know, but thats the way it always has been.
people act ignorant because they did not get some things in life, that gives you no right to judge a kid and then base what he gets on his/her accomplishments. if you were 17 and was offered a TSX for free by your parents, ur gonna tell me u wouldn't take it without a smile on your face?
02-03-2004, 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by CraZydudE
im 17 and my car is the TSX. I pay the car, and my parents pay for the insurance.
im 17 and my car is the TSX. I pay the car, and my parents pay for the insurance.
a) it establishes a credit rating for you
b) you learn the responisibilty of owning a car
c) you ket a kick-ass ride and are probably getting more pussy than any of your friends
d) your parents are happy because you are driving a safe car and not some shitbox without abs and airbags.
In hindsight, I could have leased a BMW 540i for my first car if I didn't have to worry about insurance!
02-03-2004, 09:53 PM
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its actually like this, my parents have alrdy purchased the car.(meaning they paid the 29,000+ all at once). I am basically paying them back, $500 per month.
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If the kids of that age can afford to buy a car off that list, then fine...as long as *they* pay for it (or some similar arrangement) and not their parents.
Parents who buy cars for their kids, and take care of the insurance, gas, etc., I believe are only training their kids to be subservient in the future--to be dependent on some third party for their livelihood. For some of the very lucky and very few, this may work out....but isn't the purpose of parenting to train your offspring to survive on *their own* in the world?
I'm strongly of the opinion, obviously, that if you want something, you should earn it--on your own. If you want it, but can't afford it, borrow money and pay it back.
Parents who buy cars for their kids, and take care of the insurance, gas, etc., I believe are only training their kids to be subservient in the future--to be dependent on some third party for their livelihood. For some of the very lucky and very few, this may work out....but isn't the purpose of parenting to train your offspring to survive on *their own* in the world?
I'm strongly of the opinion, obviously, that if you want something, you should earn it--on your own. If you want it, but can't afford it, borrow money and pay it back.
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Hi. I never posted anything on this website because i don't own a TSX, i don't own any car for that matter. I'm 15, and i just like Acura TSX/TL, but i'm not getting one. Although, i want to post this. You tend to remember bad things and not good things, i think that most of you guys judge teenagers by a few examples that you have met in your life. Like irresponsible slackers and "rich" kids(spoiled). I'm neither of those, believe it or not. Not all teenagers are going to drive bad, get into accidents, race, drink/smoke and drive. It is just too bad that those people mislead you to believe that most teens are like that. Yes, we do not have the same driving expirience. But what does expirience give you? You can handle extreme situations better and drive better in general. But you also know how to break the law better on the road (that's not pointing out that you do). You must admit, you speeded sometimes on a familiar road because you knew there was no radar and cops were not usually there. You MIGHT have crossed a yellow, turning to red light, when you were sure there was no camera. Of coarse, i agree that you have to earn your way (your car), but when i read this i had a feeling that you thought that teens were careless, stupid drivers.
O btw, if my parents would buy me a brand new TSX/TL i'd take it hands down.
But the list...only civic is an affordable ride for MOST teens.
Have a nice day.
O btw, if my parents would buy me a brand new TSX/TL i'd take it hands down.
But the list...only civic is an affordable ride for MOST teens.
Have a nice day.
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hmm.. so there are about 3, 4 teens on this forum. haha. what i meant by older drivers is drivers 40-ish and up. here's what happened to a friend of mine - she was rear ended by some 40ish lady, at night. until the police arrived, the lady was very friendly and apologetic. but once the police arrived, she pulled a 180, claiming it was my friend's fault for driving without lights/brake light broken, etc. at the time, the entire rear was crushed in, so she couldn't prove her lights were fine/turned on.
so my friend got a ticket. she fought the ticket and won, but my point is, it's unfair.
sorry for going o/t. like someone said, base jetta/golf/GTI would make a nice affordable first car. fun, too.
all i know is, no one i know would go buy a Scion xA/xB.
so my friend got a ticket. she fought the ticket and won, but my point is, it's unfair.
sorry for going o/t. like someone said, base jetta/golf/GTI would make a nice affordable first car. fun, too.
all i know is, no one i know would go buy a Scion xA/xB.
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Oh yeah...go Xterra! :phatyo: 
I'd definitely agree. I find that it is perfect for the teen's needs. It's got plenty of room, is "in-style", and is a lot of fun to drive. It handles really well in the snow too, which is an important factor for many. Gas mileage sucks, but other than that, I'd say it's great. It just fits 
I'd definitely agree. I find that it is perfect for the teen's needs. It's got plenty of room, is "in-style", and is a lot of fun to drive. It handles really well in the snow too, which is an important factor for many. Gas mileage sucks, but other than that, I'd say it's great. It just fits
02-04-2004, 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Triger
[B] I'm 15[B]
[B] I'm 15[B]
turns out they were right, on most everything. its normal to reject everyone's opinion, but in the end its still true. not everyone will wreck their car of course, i've never been the driver in an accident. I have been in multiple ones caused by my friends.
once you and your friends start driving, you'll see what happens. and then when you're 20 something you'll look back and laugh.
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My parents refused to buy any car for my sister or I. They felt that if we couldn't pay for the car, we didn't deserve one.
So for my entire high-school and university career, it was either the bus, walking or bumming a ride from my friends.
My sister didn't get a car until she graduated, and I didn't get a car until I saved up enough money to buy the TSX outright.
And while I agree with some of the responses here, I grew up in the Vancouver, Canada area, where there were too many street racers with cars bought by their parents.
I remember reading about a person who was 2 days past 21 and died when he raced with an Accord he got as a birthday present.
So I think it really depends on the teenager's upbringing and the area they live in. The combination of the two could bring about very safe drivers or very dangerous ones.
So for my entire high-school and university career, it was either the bus, walking or bumming a ride from my friends.
My sister didn't get a car until she graduated, and I didn't get a car until I saved up enough money to buy the TSX outright.
And while I agree with some of the responses here, I grew up in the Vancouver, Canada area, where there were too many street racers with cars bought by their parents.
I remember reading about a person who was 2 days past 21 and died when he raced with an Accord he got as a birthday present.
So I think it really depends on the teenager's upbringing and the area they live in. The combination of the two could bring about very safe drivers or very dangerous ones.
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Originally posted by xizor
i bet most of the population here is between 20-30, they weren't teenagers that long ago. I'm 22, 4 years out of high school, I used to think the same way you did. I thought my parents didn't know jack...
turns out they were right, on most everything. its normal to reject everyone's opinion, but in the end its still true. not everyone will wreck their car of course, i've never been the driver in an accident. I have been in multiple ones caused by my friends.
once you and your friends start driving, you'll see what happens. and then when you're 20 something you'll look back and laugh.
i bet most of the population here is between 20-30, they weren't teenagers that long ago. I'm 22, 4 years out of high school, I used to think the same way you did. I thought my parents didn't know jack...
turns out they were right, on most everything. its normal to reject everyone's opinion, but in the end its still true. not everyone will wreck their car of course, i've never been the driver in an accident. I have been in multiple ones caused by my friends.
once you and your friends start driving, you'll see what happens. and then when you're 20 something you'll look back and laugh.
I'm done sounding old for the day
02-04-2004, 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by iamhomin
who cares if teenagers are given 25k~35k cars.
--back to the original topic, i think the civic coupe is downright the most practical/economical car for teenagers.
who cares if teenagers are given 25k~35k cars.
--back to the original topic, i think the civic coupe is downright the most practical/economical car for teenagers.
VW Golf
Honda Civic Ex
VW Jetta
Mini Cooper
VW New Beetle
Toyota Corolla
Ford Focus
Mitsu Lancer
Nissan Sentra
Dodge Neon
Hyundai Elantra
Chevy Cavalier
(The breaks are between those rated Excellent, Very Good, Good, and Fair/Poor)
02-04-2004, 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by xizor
Man, just when I thought VW killed the Beetle, there's a "New Beetle" out.
Man, just when I thought VW killed the Beetle, there's a "New Beetle" out.
02-04-2004, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by rb1
The "New Beetle" is the front engine, water-cooled model based on the GTI platform that has been sold in the U.S. since 1999.5, as opposed to the older, rear-engine, air-cooled model. There really isn't a "new" one at this point in time.
The "New Beetle" is the front engine, water-cooled model based on the GTI platform that has been sold in the U.S. since 1999.5, as opposed to the older, rear-engine, air-cooled model. There really isn't a "new" one at this point in time.
Have they not *also* discontinued the front engine one?
Kinda weird, since they just released the Cabriolet version. I guess everyone who buys one of those will have a "super limited edition".