No RDS ???
05-01-2006, 10:28 AM
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no RDS. There's been a few threads on this topic recently. It's one of the few little luxury features the TSX doesn't have...a fair trade-off for all the other neat features we get at $30k.
05-01-2006, 02:32 PM
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Yes but still a bit lame, since the radio already has the capability to display text.
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
05-01-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jwhite4
Yes but still a bit lame, since the radio already has the capability to display text.
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
Well I can live without the freakin' RDS........my Xterra has it anyway!!!
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05-01-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jwhite4
Yes but still a bit lame, since the radio already has the capability to display text.
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
And I get your point that it sucks to see cheaper cars have features the TSX doesn't have.....
05-01-2006, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TSXmeister
especially this one remotely opening up all the window with my key fob....his jaw drop and he was drooling all over
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05-01-2006, 04:54 PM
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I think there are a couple of issues:
1. It's not the accesories and feature per say, but rather where it appears along the priceline. BMW's and Mercedes do have some nice features (power rear shade, vents at the top of the seats (Mercedes convertibles), but coming from $40k+ cars, I'm not expecting them to be on the $30k TSX. However, features that come in base Chevrolet's, they should be doable.
2. The incremental cost of adding some of these features is probably very little. Once you many of the components under the control of a central computer (I hope I'm not sounding like Star Trek!), then it's just a matter of some programming to have some (additional) actions performed based on some conditions.
For a remote starter, you have checks for interlocks (car in park, brake pedal not pressed, key transponder electronically simulated), then connections for power, an antenna, a separate key fob, plus installation. Basically, everything most cars already have. All they really need to add is a separate start button (or a sequence on your existing remote), and a line to interface to the ignition function. GM can do that for $150. I paid my Acura dealer $500 to do that.
Similarly, the car knows how to lock and unlock the doors. It also knows when it is and isn't in park. It could be as simpkle as some programming to marry the two actions so that doors lock and unlock automatically. That can't be that much $$
3. It would be very nice to be a fly on the wall as cars are being developed, to hear what the different groups propose for features, and to hear what gets rejected, and why. Some of the features I mentioned in my first post (about my G6 rental) have been around for years. It's not that Acura was never exposed to them, it has to be that for whatever reason they chose not to implement them. I'd like to know why. They still need the extra features (like the remote lowering of windows) to give them an advantage of other companies, to keep their image (and justify their higher price).
Jeff
1. It's not the accesories and feature per say, but rather where it appears along the priceline. BMW's and Mercedes do have some nice features (power rear shade, vents at the top of the seats (Mercedes convertibles), but coming from $40k+ cars, I'm not expecting them to be on the $30k TSX. However, features that come in base Chevrolet's, they should be doable.
2. The incremental cost of adding some of these features is probably very little. Once you many of the components under the control of a central computer (I hope I'm not sounding like Star Trek!), then it's just a matter of some programming to have some (additional) actions performed based on some conditions.
For a remote starter, you have checks for interlocks (car in park, brake pedal not pressed, key transponder electronically simulated), then connections for power, an antenna, a separate key fob, plus installation. Basically, everything most cars already have. All they really need to add is a separate start button (or a sequence on your existing remote), and a line to interface to the ignition function. GM can do that for $150. I paid my Acura dealer $500 to do that.
Similarly, the car knows how to lock and unlock the doors. It also knows when it is and isn't in park. It could be as simpkle as some programming to marry the two actions so that doors lock and unlock automatically. That can't be that much $$
3. It would be very nice to be a fly on the wall as cars are being developed, to hear what the different groups propose for features, and to hear what gets rejected, and why. Some of the features I mentioned in my first post (about my G6 rental) have been around for years. It's not that Acura was never exposed to them, it has to be that for whatever reason they chose not to implement them. I'd like to know why. They still need the extra features (like the remote lowering of windows) to give them an advantage of other companies, to keep their image (and justify their higher price).
Jeff
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05-01-2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jwhite4
Yes but still a bit lame, since the radio already has the capability to display text.
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
I don't want to get into a flame war, but I drove a Pontiac G6 as a rental last month. By no means am I putting it in the same category as a TSX (or any Acura). But it's radio has RDS, doors that lock and unlock automatically when moving into and out of park, automatic headlights when it gets dark, every light (interior and exterior) (including reverse) come on when you unlock the doors, and a factory remote starter is only $150 extra (and the rest of the buttons on the remote still work).
Sometimes you wonder if they can go on a car of this calibur, why can't most upscale cars have them. Even if Acura designers really don't like some of these options, they can always install them (actual cost probably very little) and then allow those who wish to reconfigure if not disable them thru the onboard setup.
Jeff
05-01-2006, 06:16 PM
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The Power of a Grill
RDS sucks anyway. I had it in my last car and could only get information for a few crappy stations. It was a nice novelty for the first few passengers, but it wore off quickly and eventually i wouldn't even bother with it.
I haven't used my regular radio since I discovered the joys of XM. Who needs RDS when you have XM?
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