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Old 03-11-2004 | 11:01 AM
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MSN Reviews the TSX

This is one wierd review: http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/job.aspx?...&src=reviewers

0-60
6MT: 8.75sec
SS: 9.69sec

1/4
6MT: 16.70sec @ 87.8
SS: 17.34 sec @ 84.8

Braking 62mph - 0
6MT: 147.5'
SS: 142.5'

I don't know who they had doing their testing but that person needs some formal training. These numbers are just dumb. How does the SS stop 5' shorter when it weighs 88lbs more???
Old 03-11-2004 | 11:26 AM
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From my initial read of the article, I must say that this guy probably is not much of an enthusiast driver but rather is more day to day living oriented in his reviews. I'm gonna do a little more digging to see how they generate performance numbers because those acceleration numbers are ridiculously slow.

Edit: After looking at some of this writers other reviews, I can conclude that their acceleration times are at least a half-second off the mark. Must be doing regular street standing starts instead of dump-clutch launches.
Old 03-11-2004 | 11:41 AM
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How old is this article? They mention the "soon to be updated TL".
Agree that their acceleration and braking numbers are a little screwy.
Old 03-11-2004 | 11:52 AM
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It probably is old but it just popped up on the MSN front page today....
Old 03-11-2004 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Dan Martin
It probably is old but it just popped up on the MSN front page today....
Looks like MSN website is as slow as their drivers.
Old 03-11-2004 | 11:57 AM
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Can you blame them? It's a Microsoft product afterall.....
Old 03-11-2004 | 12:07 PM
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Haha!!
Old 03-11-2004 | 12:32 PM
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Re: MSN Reviews the TSX

Originally posted by Dan Martin
...0-60
6MT: 8.75sec
SS: 9.69sec...
Maybe those are Canadian seconds.
Old 03-11-2004 | 12:37 PM
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"The TSX line-up could not be simpler: it is offered in a single trim, with an identical current base price of $34,800, whether you choose the 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission. The equipment list is extensive. The major options are a DVD-based rear "entertainment system" priced at $2,912, a hands-free phone ($541), an MP3 Player ($743) and a cassette player ($473). Most others are trim or body-related add-ons."

Base price of $34,800, rear "entertainment system"? What car is this guy testing?

If you go to their pricing report (http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/PriceRpt....04&TrimID=5017), it also shows a price of $34,800 and the page says the info was complied on 9/01/2004. Either something's off here or MS has figured out how to time travel.

Edit: Oops, just realized this is a Canadian review. Now the number make sense!
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Originally posted by PDX_Josh
Base price of $34,800, rear "entertainment system"? What car is this guy testing?

If you go to their pricing report (http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/PriceRpt....04&TrimID=5017), it also shows a price of $34,800 and the page says the info was complied on 9/01/2004. Either something's off here or MS has figured out how to time travel.
Dude, those would be Canadian dollars. As in CDN$.

Exchange rate is approximately CDN$1 = USD$0.75.
Old 03-11-2004 | 12:45 PM
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Glad I could contribute so much with my first post. A great start, huh?
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Originally posted by PDX_Josh
"The TSX line-up could not be simpler: it is offered in a single trim, with an identical current base price of $34,800, whether you choose the 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission. The equipment list is extensive. The major options are a DVD-based rear "entertainment system" priced at $2,912, a hands-free phone ($541), an MP3 Player ($743) and a cassette player ($473). Most others are trim or body-related add-ons."

Base price of $34,800, rear "entertainment system"? What car is this guy testing?

If you go to their pricing report (http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/PriceRpt....04&TrimID=5017), it also shows a price of $34,800 and the page says the info was complied on 9/01/2004. Either something's off here or MS has figured out how to time travel.

Edit: Oops, just realized this is a Canadian review. Now the number make sense!
Hey Josh, there is life ABOVE the United States you know What a Noob

Welcome to the board PDX_Josh
Old 03-11-2004 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by PDX_Josh
Glad I could contribute so much with my first post. A great start, huh?
Haha...it could have been worse. Everyone's gotta start somehwere. At least you didn't come out swinging, looking to pick a fight. Welcome to the forum.
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Originally posted by domn
Hey Josh, there is life ABOVE the United States you know What a Noob

Welcome to the board PDX_Josh

Thanks for the welcome, domn and CG. Everything I know about Canada I've learned from South Park so sometimes I forget it's a real place
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Thanks for the welcome, domn and CG. Everything I know about Canada I've learned from South Park so sometimes I forget it's a real place
Ooooo - now them be fightin' words! :P

Time to take this outside!
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Ooooo - now them be fightin' words! :P

Time to take this outside!
Anyone for a little "Blame Canada"?
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Soooo...this is a Canadian test. How do you Canadians like the rear entertainment system?
Old 03-11-2004 | 02:54 PM
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looks like a waste of money if you ask me...
Old 03-11-2004 | 03:46 PM
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Well, Canadian 0-60 times always include a few seconds to let the moose get out of the way....
Old 03-11-2004 | 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by CGTSX2004
Exchange rate is approximately CDN$1 = USD$0.75.
So if I use the 0.75 exchange rate I get 0-60 times of 6.6sec for the MT and 7.3sec for the SS AT.

You know, I was just being a smart ass but those converted numbers are looking familiar.
Old 03-11-2004 | 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by TSX Hokie
Well, Canadian 0-60 times always include a few seconds to let the moose get out of the way....
Actually its the maple syrup on the road that slows us down.

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Originally posted by TSX Hokie
Well, Canadian 0-60 times always include a few seconds to let the moose get out of the way....
Now them fighting words
Old 03-11-2004 | 04:04 PM
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Time for another invasion...


Domn, you get the Zodiak and hit the lake. I'll get our snowmobile and take them from the plains....

They'll never expect a thing.
Old 03-11-2004 | 04:11 PM
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OK but can we go around Buffalo, I hate Buffalo, makes me feel dirty.

Actually, lets bypass Detroit too

We'll take em from Montana.
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Yes they can keep those cities....
Old 03-11-2004 | 04:19 PM
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Hey, you guys can have Texas. You can take Dubya with you too when you take Texas.
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there is life ABOVE the United States you know
What the hell are you talking about? This needs to be a poll.
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If only Texas has succeeded in its numerous attempts to secede from the union.....

Then Dubya would be president of the Republic of Texas, where he would be busy running up a huge deficit fighting the "imminent threat" posed by the armadillo population.
Old 03-12-2004 | 12:02 AM
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Re: MSN Reviews the TSX

Originally posted by Dan Martin
This is one wierd review: http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/job.aspx?...&src=reviewers

0-60
6MT: 8.75sec
SS: 9.69sec
Those numbers are for 0 to 100 kilometers, not 0 to 60 mph.
Old 03-12-2004 | 08:10 AM
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I noticed that and did the math for our American friends.

And before you start, I realize that I rounded to 60 and not 62. If you think it takes an extra 1.5 seconds to go from 60 to 62 than you might have a point.
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Part of it depends if there is a shift point at 60 mph. I am going to do a test on my car to see if I can guesstimate what, if any, difference there might be between 0-62 and 0-60. I realize this is picking nits and more curiosity on my part since I am satisfied with the performance of the TSX and that acceleration is just one part of the overall driving experience for me. As an example, when I was shopping for a new car, I drove both the 04 TL and the 04 TSX. While I loved the acceleration of the TL I bought the TSX because the overall driving experience with the TSX was superior for me. Would not mind having a bit more torque though .
Old 03-12-2004 | 09:59 AM
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Even if you had to shift at 60, by the time you get into gear you would have coasted up to 62. BTW, I agree with you about acceleration and the driving experience.
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Originally posted by Dan Martin
Even if you had to shift at 60, by the time you get into gear you would have coasted up to 62. BTW, I agree with you about acceleration and the driving experience.
Dan, I'll let you think about the physics of that statement before I jump on it

::Hint F=ma::
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Sorry my brain has gone home for the weekend.
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