Dan Martin

This is one wierd review: http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/job.aspx?...&src=reviewers

0-60
6MT: 8.75sec
SS: 9.69sec

1/4
6MT: 16.70sec @ 87.8
SS: 17.34 sec @ 84.8

Braking 62mph - 0
6MT: 147.5'
SS: 142.5'

I don't know who they had doing their testing but that person needs some formal training. These numbers are just dumb. How does the SS stop 5' shorter when it weighs 88lbs more???

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

From my initial read of the article, I must say that this guy probably is not much of an enthusiast driver but rather is more day to day living oriented in his reviews. I'm gonna do a little more digging to see how they generate performance numbers because those acceleration numbers are ridiculously slow.

Edit: After looking at some of this writers other reviews, I can conclude that their acceleration times are at least a half-second off the mark. Must be doing regular street standing starts instead of dump-clutch launches.

jlukja

How old is this article? They mention the "soon to be updated TL".
Agree that their acceleration and braking numbers are a little screwy.

Dan Martin

It probably is old but it just popped up on the MSN front page today....

jlukja

Looks like MSN website is as slow as their drivers.

Dan Martin

Can you blame them? It's a Microsoft product afterall.....

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Haha!!

ClutchPerformer

Maybe those are Canadian seconds.

PDX_Josh

"The TSX line-up could not be simpler: it is offered in a single trim, with an identical current base price of $34,800, whether you choose the 6-speed manual or 5-speed automatic transmission. The equipment list is extensive. The major options are a DVD-based rear "entertainment system" priced at $2,912, a hands-free phone ($541), an MP3 Player ($743) and a cassette player ($473). Most others are trim or body-related add-ons."

Base price of $34,800, rear "entertainment system"? What car is this guy testing?

If you go to their pricing report (http://autos.en.msn.ca/vip/PriceRpt....04&TrimID=5017), it also shows a price of $34,800 and the page says the info was complied on 9/01/2004. Either something's off here or MS has figured out how to time travel.

Edit: Oops, just realized this is a Canadian review. Now the number make sense!

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Dude, those would be Canadian dollars. As in CDN$.

Exchange rate is approximately CDN$1 = USD$0.75.

PDX_Josh

Glad I could contribute so much with my first post. A great start, huh?

dom

Hey Josh, there is life ABOVE the United States you know What a Noob

Welcome to the board PDX_Josh

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Haha...it could have been worse. Everyone's gotta start somehwere. At least you didn't come out swinging, looking to pick a fight. Welcome to the forum.

PDX_Josh

Thanks for the welcome, domn and CG. Everything I know about Canada I've learned from South Park so sometimes I forget it's a real place

Revenent

Ooooo - now them be fightin' words! :P

Time to take this outside!

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Anyone for a little "Blame Canada"?

jlukja

Soooo...this is a Canadian test. How do you Canadians like the rear entertainment system?

Dan Martin

looks like a waste of money if you ask me...

TSX Hokie

Well, Canadian 0-60 times always include a few seconds to let the moose get out of the way....

jlukja

So if I use the 0.75 exchange rate I get 0-60 times of 6.6sec for the MT and 7.3sec for the SS AT.

You know, I was just being a smart ass but those converted numbers are looking familiar.

Dan Martin

Actually its the maple syrup on the road that slows us down.

dom

Now them fighting words

Dan Martin

Time for another invasion...


Domn, you get the Zodiak and hit the lake. I'll get our snowmobile and take them from the plains....

They'll never expect a thing.

dom

OK but can we go around Buffalo, I hate Buffalo, makes me feel dirty.

Actually, lets bypass Detroit too

We'll take em from Montana.

Dan Martin

Yes they can keep those cities....

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Hey, you guys can have Texas. You can take Dubya with you too when you take Texas.

KC 2004 TSX

What the hell are you talking about? This needs to be a poll.

TSX Hokie

If only Texas has succeeded in its numerous attempts to secede from the union.....

Then Dubya would be president of the Republic of Texas, where he would be busy running up a huge deficit fighting the "imminent threat" posed by the armadillo population.

Nick250

Those numbers are for 0 to 100 kilometers, not 0 to 60 mph.

Dan Martin

I noticed that and did the math for our American friends.

And before you start, I realize that I rounded to 60 and not 62. If you think it takes an extra 1.5 seconds to go from 60 to 62 than you might have a point.

Nick250

Part of it depends if there is a shift point at 60 mph. I am going to do a test on my car to see if I can guesstimate what, if any, difference there might be between 0-62 and 0-60. I realize this is picking nits and more curiosity on my part since I am satisfied with the performance of the TSX and that acceleration is just one part of the overall driving experience for me. As an example, when I was shopping for a new car, I drove both the 04 TL and the 04 TSX. While I loved the acceleration of the TL I bought the TSX because the overall driving experience with the TSX was superior for me. Would not mind having a bit more torque though .

Dan Martin

Even if you had to shift at 60, by the time you get into gear you would have coasted up to 62. BTW, I agree with you about acceleration and the driving experience.

TSX Hokie

Dan, I'll let you think about the physics of that statement before I jump on it

::Hint F=ma::

Dan Martin

Sorry my brain has gone home for the weekend.