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Old 05-26-2004 | 10:59 AM
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International Engine ofthe Year Awards

Number at the end is points received.

Best New Engine

Toyota Hybrid 1.5-litre (Prius) - 260

Honda Diesel 2.2-litre (Accord (Europe)) - 113

Fiat-GM Diesel 1.3-litre (Panda, Punto, IDEA, Doblo, Opel/Vauxhall Agila, Corsa, Suzuki New Ignis) - 100

Mercedes-AMG 6-litre (S65, CL65) - 99

Chrysler/Dodge 5.7-litre (300C, Magnum) - 90

Lamborghini 5-litre (Gallardo) - 77


Best Fuel Economy

Toyota Hybrid 1.5-litre (Prius) - 375

Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic) - 153

Fiat-GM Diesel 1.3-litre (Panda, Punto, IDEA, Doblo, Opel/Vauxhall Agila, Corsa, Suzuki New Ignis) - 139

Volkswagen Diesel 5-litre (Touareg/Phaeton) - 75

BMW Diesel 3-litre (330d, X3, 530d, X5, 730d) - 65

Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight) - 58


2.0 to 2.5L Engine

BMW 2.5-litre (325i, X3, 525i, Z4) - 147

Honda Diesel 2.2-litre (Accord (Europe)) - 146

Fiat Diesel 2.4-litre JTD Multijet (Alfa 156, 166, Lancia Lybra/Thesis) - 126

Peugeot-Citroën Diesel 2.2-litre HDi (Citroën C5, C8 Peugeot 607, 807) - 112

Volvo 2.3-litre (S60, V70, C70) - 93

Honda 2.2-litre (S2000 (North America)) - 86


2.5 to 3.0L

Mazda RENESIS (RX-8) - 252

BMW Diesel 3-litre (330d, X3, 530d, X5, 730d) - 242

BMW 3-litre (Z4, 330i, X3, 530i, X5, 730i) - 189

Subaru 3-litre (Legacy, Outback) - 133

Audi Diesel 3-litre (A6, A8) - 70

Mercedes-AMG Diesel 3-litre (C-Class) - 68


3.0 to 4.0L

BMW 3.2-litre (M3) - 252

Porsche 3.6-litre turbo (911 Turbo) - 164

Nissan 3.5-litre (350Z/350GT, Infiniti FX35) - 109

Ferrari 3.6-litre (360 Modena/Spider) - 94

BMW Diesel 3.9-litre (740d) - 86

Porsche 3.6-litre (911 (320bhp)) - 83


1.8 to 2.0L

Honda 2-litre (S2000 (Europe/Asia)) - 153

Subaru 2-litre turbo (Impreza,
Legacy/Lancaster/Outback, Forester) - 135

BMW Diesel 2-litre (320d) - 97

Volkswagen 1.8-litre turbo (225bhp) (TT, Leon) - 82

BMW 2-litre Valvetronic (318i) - 81

Fiat Diesel 1.9-litre JTD Multijet (Alfa Romeo 156, GT) - 80

Honda/Acura 2-litre (Integra Type-R) - 76


Best Performance Engine

Mercedes-AMG 6-litre (S65, CL65) - 171

BMW 3.2-litre (M3) - 163

Ferrari 5.7-litre (612) - 115

Lamborghini 5-litre (Gallardo) - 114

Porsche 3.6-litre turbo (911 Turbo) - 79

Aston Martin 5.9-litre (DB9, Vanquish) - 65

All Results
Old 05-26-2004 | 11:02 AM
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I can understand BMW winning for their 2.5L 4 years ago, but not today.
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How did the Renesis get lumped into the 2.5-3.0L category? I thought it only displaced 1.3L?
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How did the Subaru Outback 3.0L engine make the list and not the Honda 3.0L V6 from the Accord?
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CGTSX, the Renesis is marketed as a 1.3L but it in fact is something closer to 3.0L. Your supposed to multiply 1.3 X 2 I think. Mazda does'nt for some reason.

The new Subi 3.0L makes in the neighbourhood of 250HP/250lb-ft I think.
Old 05-26-2004 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by CGTSX2004
How did the Subaru Outback 3.0L engine make the list and not the Honda 3.0L V6 from the Accord?

It isnt just about HP though. Besides, isnt the new V6 just a retuned version of the old one?
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"The design makes Mazda’s unit a 1.3-litre at rest, but the RENESIS qualifies for this 2.5-litre to 3-litre category as when on the move, it is the equivalent of a 2.6-litre and is classified as such in some countries."

Whatever that means?
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Originally posted by domn
"The design makes Mazda’s unit a 1.3-litre at rest, but the RENESIS qualifies for this 2.5-litre to 3-litre category as when on the move, it is the equivalent of a 2.6-litre and is classified as such in some countries."


Whatever that means?
Hmm...wonder how that works...
Old 05-26-2004 | 03:24 PM
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Obviously a more european feel to these awards going by the amount of diesels winning. Nice to see Honda who's relatively new at making deisels pick up a few awards for its deisel engines.

And even better to see more than a few Honda's on the list. Both Hybrids, Both S2000 Engines and the 2.0L Type R engine. Only a few Toyotas listed.

<Insert Gilbo comeback glorifying Toyota here>
Old 05-26-2004 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by domn
CGTSX, the Renesis is marketed as a 1.3L but it in fact is something closer to 3.0L. Your supposed to multiply 1.3 X 2 I think. Mazda does'nt for some reason.

The new Subi 3.0L makes in the neighbourhood of 250HP/250lb-ft I think.
BINGO! heheh yeap cause it's rotary.. u can't compare with the
normal engines...
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I've never really been that impressed with the rotary engines. They're interesting to study, but they make little torque when NA, and are less fuel efficient than a similar output piston engine. I find them intriguing from an engineering standpoint, but I don't think I'd want to own one.
Old 05-26-2004 | 07:11 PM
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Rotaries have some very unusual querks about them for tuning. An I/H/E on a standard I4 might give somewhere from 10-20hp but an aftermarket I/H/E on a rotary can give you upwards of 50hp! The weird thing is that exhaust temp increases dramatically when you bolt on a performance exhaust. It gets so hot that sometimes it's not possible to use a catalytic converter making the car unstreetable. I know very little about rotary engines so if somebody would like to explain why I'd be interested to hear it...
Old 05-26-2004 | 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by domn
"The design makes Mazda’s unit a 1.3-litre at rest, but the RENESIS qualifies for this 2.5-litre to 3-litre category as when on the move, it is the equivalent of a 2.6-litre and is classified as such in some countries."

Whatever that means?
In English:

The volume between the rotor and the case is 1.3L. If you include the volume of the rotor itself, then you get 2.6L.

Link that explains how rotary (Wankel) engines work
Old 05-27-2004 | 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by TSX Hokie
In English:

The volume between the rotor and the case is 1.3L. If you include the volume of the rotor itself, then you get 2.6L.

Link that explains how rotary (Wankel) engines work
Hmm...that seems odd since the rotor isn't hollow, is it?
Old 05-27-2004 | 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by domn

And even better to see more than a few Honda's on the list. Both Hybrids, Both S2000 Engines and the 2.0L Type R engine. Only a few Toyotas listed.

<Insert Gilbo comeback glorifying Toyota here>
Yup, the 2.0L S2000 engine has won this catagory for 5 years in a row now.
Old 05-27-2004 | 08:57 AM
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Mazda RENESIS shoud not be in the list of 2.5 to 3.0L, because it is a 1.3L engine, and i kow that engine suck.. if you got that car, mazda service area will be your second home.
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Do you own the RX-8? I'm assuming that you do, because unless you own one, you shouldn't make a blanket statment like that.
Old 05-27-2004 | 09:55 AM
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I can understand BMW winning for their 2.5L 4 years ago, but not today.
I don't see why it is ithere. It has a worse fuel economy than a 330i!
Old 05-28-2004 | 09:20 AM
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I find it odd that the S54 (BMW M3 3.2L) is second in the performance engine category and the 360 Modena's engine didn't even rate. I assume the GT3's engine is somehow not in the running, maybe too limited, since it is one heck of a NA engine, better than the S54 in my opinion. I guess I also have a NA bias but I can't see a FI engine (6L no less) winning the performance section. Also seems off that the 2L S2K engine didn't rate in this category, I understand the new Federal 2.2 not making it but the 2L is a screamer. Then again in the end the judges apparently have different criteria than I would.

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Old 05-28-2004 | 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by Dan Martin
Rotaries have some very unusual querks about them for tuning. An I/H/E on a standard I4 might give somewhere from 10-20hp but an aftermarket I/H/E on a rotary can give you upwards of 50hp! The weird thing is that exhaust temp increases dramatically when you bolt on a performance exhaust. It gets so hot that sometimes it's not possible to use a catalytic converter making the car unstreetable. I know very little about rotary engines so if somebody would like to explain why I'd be interested to hear it...
Isnt that why the HP numbers decreased after their first producition run??
I know the stang Cobra had Cat failures that killed that line, am I confusing that w\ the 8 also?
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