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Old 10-02-2004, 08:42 PM
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Future TSX Buyers : Possible Group Buy in North California?

I was contacted by two members if I was interested in purchasing a TSX together in North California so we can negotiate on the price with the dealer easier. I don't know how much cheaper it will be at this time, but if I can get a number on how many people are interested, I will start contacting around.

If you have trade-ins, I recommend selling it in private. It would be difficult to negotiate out each person's trade-in value with all the Acura's.

We're planning to purchase an 05 model around December, but can delay or make it earlier.

If you are in, please PM me
- when you would like to purchase your TSX, please indicate if you MUST have it by then or you can wait.
- your city
- with or without Navigation on your TSX

Plan
- I will keep collecting people's name until 11/01
- Once the 05's invoice, MSRP value of the car are released, I will start contacting dealerships.

I hope this works out, I don't know if this kind of thing was done before or not.
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Well, I am not 100% definate I will buy one by this December, however there is a possibility if the price is right. I also need to know what's new on the '05 TSX to help me make my decision. But you may contact me. Interested in '05 with navigation, carbon grey with spoiler.
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Awesome, from what we know 05 will have XM radio, power passenger seat, lighted steering wheel buttons, new interior color for red, and HOPEFULLY some issues in the 04s such as rattles worked out.
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Interested

If I dont get a 2004 in the next 24 hours I'm definitely buying a 2005 TSX. 6-speed with Navigation. I've already talked to some dealers about 2005 pricing and got a quote of 1000 over invoice on that particular model. The car is not supposed to be available until December so I don't mind waiting ... count me in for a group buy.
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i'd be interested .. my 04 that's on order is coming in the middle of october. if you can get a price on the 05 soon, that'll help me make my decision.
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go for it guys. we did it in Toronto and save a bundle each (>10 cars).
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Awesome, we have about 5 people now. Please AIM me at kenji4861.
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We currently have
3 - for sure
4 - unsure but interested

PM me with your email address if you are in.
Old 10-05-2004, 09:07 PM
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try to get a price! .. if it's a good deal .. i'll be willing to wait .. if not .. i'll get the 04 since i already reserve one ..
Old 10-06-2004, 03:27 PM
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2 Interested in LA

two of us are interested in LA in Dec time frame

both with Nav; one with auto, on 6spd; both carbon grey

if you can get a great price
what city are u looking to buy from?
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Please PM me your email address so I can get you on a mailing list.
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Damn, I'm too far away... I'd be all over that like Oprah on a baked ham.
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Alright these are the list of people I have so far

kenji4861@gmail.com - Carbon Grey Ebony MT no navi
will325i@yahoo.com - SSM/CG/MSM AT
lukatmyshu@gmail.com - Carbon Grey Quartz/Ebony MT
sambog@yahoo.com -
ldf@ebsbuild.com -
kmtasugi@raytheon.com -
Malonson@raytheon.com -
thomas.yiu@gmail.com - Carbon Grey AT navi
aktran23@hotmail.com - Carbon Grey MT navi

Today I contacted a few dealers in the bay area. I let them know what is going on, but Acura hasn't released the 05 pricing even to their dealers so they said they'll get back to me when they do.
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Im interested check pm.....
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Im a little bit north of LA, but i am definitly interested. That was my exact time frame. I have not decided on color, Probably something with parchment int, but it will definitly be an auto, w/Nav..

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Added you guys to the list.

Once the 05 price is released, I'll start negotiating with the dealers. Until then, dealers around me can only "estimate" which is unclear.
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where in norcal are you? just need to estimate my driving time up there...
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I am in the SUnnyvale/San Jose area.
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hey kenji .. if i dont get the 04 ... i'll join you guys.

I would like to get the 05' pwp or ssm w/ quartz interior 6 spd non navi.
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That would put us at what? 12? I know the sales manager at fresno acura + have family that works there. When the price is released and we have a serious number of people in the group buy I'll give him a call and post his response/price to compare to the ones your getting in the bay area.
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Originally Posted by J-Mack
That would put us at what? 12? I know the sales manager at fresno acura + have family that works there. When the price is released and we have a serious number of people in the group buy I'll give him a call and post his response/price to compare to the ones your getting in the bay area.

If interested i could talk to several dealers in LA too.
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I think you should, that way we could take the lowest price we're offered and call dealerships from our towns and say "we're being offered this from here...can you beat that price? And I'm guessing they would want to beat that price in order to sell around 12 cars. It would only help us.
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I possibly in, CG/Ebony/AT/No Navi
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Originally Posted by Jeffropugs
I possibly in, CG/Ebony/AT/No Navi
Good. kenji4861, how many people do we have in?
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We should designate a 'leader' in each the Nol Cal area and LA. Who's up for the task?

Jeff
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We currently have 15 people that are interested. Jeffropugs, please send me your email. I think once the 05 pricing is out, it's a good idea to negotiate in both LA and in North California. I'll do the following in north california. If anyone wants to negotiate anywhere else in North California, it would be great.

Sunnyvale Acura
Autowest Acura of Stevens Creek
Los Gatos Acura
Hopkins Acura
Mike Harvey Acura
Acura of Pleasanton
Acura of Serramonte
Oakland Acura

These dealers have told me that once they give us the price, they need a non-refundable deposit of $1000 from each buyer because their experience was that.. "an individual would say 20 people are buying after him, but once that individual buys it for the low price, no one showed up." So these would be the steps that would "most likely" happen.

1. Wait for invoice/msrp price of 05 Acura TSX to be officially released. - current process
2. All of us that want to go haggle at all dealerships in California saying we have about 10~20 people that are interested in purchasing at 1 dealership that offers the lowest price. We would like to buy around December.
3. Decide on dealer and price.
4. Contact all members that were interested and make the list of people that are buying official.
5. Buying members have to make their specs official (which options, which color, transmission, etc.)
5. Collest non-refundable deposit.
6. One leader goes pay non-refundable deposits.
7. Soon as car arrives, we go get it.
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The non-refundable deposit sounds reasonsable to me for the group buy. However, I do have this concern. Will the exact color/option that we want be guaranteed? I don't want the dealer to say "take the one we have or leave your 1000 bucks" if they don't have the one we want. For example, out of the 15 potential buyers, I'm guessing half of them are CGs. Do they have 7 CGs in their lot, and all matching the option we want (transmission + navi)? Most likely a few of us will need to wait till the next shipment. For me I'll have to weigh in the amount I save in the group buy to decide if the wait is worth it.
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Originally Posted by kenji4861
I was contacted by two members if I was interested in purchasing a TSX together in North California so we can negotiate on the price with the dealer easier. I don't know how much cheaper it will be at this time, but if I can get a number on how many people are interested, I will start contacting around.

If you have trade-ins, I recommend selling it in private. It would be difficult to negotiate out each person's trade-in value with all the Acura's.

We're planning to purchase an 05 model around December, but can delay or make it earlier.

If you are in, please PM me
- when you would like to purchase your TSX, please indicate if you MUST have it by then or you can wait.
- your city
- with or without Navigation on your TSX

Plan
- I will keep collecting people's name until 11/01
- Once the 05's invoice, MSRP value of the car are released, I will start contacting dealerships.

I hope this works out, I don't know if this kind of thing was done before or not.
good luck. i want a 2005 tsx navi auto carbon gray with quartz interior. open time frame.
but i got my 2004 tsx navi at 150 over invoice.. last august 2003 and got interest rate at dealer's buy rate from american honda 4.99% for six years purchase contract, and 60 over invoice on the acura care 5 yrs 100k zero deductible = 895 and let them make a little on the GAP so i paid 500 ..
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Originally Posted by kenji4861
We currently have 15 people that are interested. Jeffropugs, please send me your email. I think once the 05 pricing is out, it's a good idea to negotiate in both LA and in North California. I'll do the following in north california. If anyone wants to negotiate anywhere else in North California, it would be great.

Sunnyvale Acura
Autowest Acura of Stevens Creek
Los Gatos Acura
Hopkins Acura
Mike Harvey Acura
Acura of Pleasanton
Acura of Serramonte
Oakland Acura

These dealers have told me that once they give us the price, they need a non-refundable deposit of $1000 from each buyer because their experience was that.. "an individual would say 20 people are buying after him, but once that individual buys it for the low price, no one showed up." So these would be the steps that would "most likely" happen.

1. Wait for invoice/msrp price of 05 Acura TSX to be officially released. - current process
2. All of us that want to go haggle at all dealerships in California saying we have about 10~20 people that are interested in purchasing at 1 dealership that offers the lowest price. We would like to buy around December.
3. Decide on dealer and price.
4. Contact all members that were interested and make the list of people that are buying official.
5. Buying members have to make their specs official (which options, which color, transmission, etc.)
5. Collest non-refundable deposit.
6. One leader goes pay non-refundable deposits.
7. Soon as car arrives, we go get it.

Sounds good. Ill talk to fresno acura when the price is released. Who else is with us?!
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The non-refundable deposit sounds reasonsable to me for the group buy. However, I do have this concern. Will the exact color/option that we want be guaranteed? I don't want the dealer to say "take the one we have or leave your 1000 bucks" if they don't have the one we want. For example, out of the 15 potential buyers, I'm guessing half of them are CGs. Do they have 7 CGs in their lot, and all matching the option we want (transmission + navi)? Most likely a few of us will need to wait till the next shipment. For me I'll have to weigh in the amount I save in the group buy to decide if the wait is worth it.
I'm very confident the dealer will not do this. We will give them time to get the cars and we will make sure that the $1000 deposit is in for the configuration we demanded.
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Man.. I still can't decide Arctic Blue or Carbon Grey.. I like the blue slightly more.. but it's just too flashy.. carbon grey looks good, but everyone has it.. ARG!
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Originally Posted by Jeffropugs
We should designate a 'leader' in each the Nol Cal area and LA. Who's up for the task?

Jeff

I can do the LA area. I am a few hours north, but my wife goes to UCLA, so i'm down there all the time..
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Hey Kenji, I'm in the same predicament too! But I think I'm leaning more towards the Arctic Blue because you mentioned it, everyone seems to go with Carbon Gray. Blue on black isn't so bad. But what I really want to know though is if PWP with the Ebony interior is going to be available for 2005. If it is, then definitely I'm going to go for that. *crosses fingers*

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Originally Posted by Johnny76
Hey Kenji, I'm in the same predicament too! But I think I'm leaning more towards the Arctic Blue because you mentioned it, everyone seems to go with Carbon Gray. Blue on black isn't so bad. But what I really want to know though is if PWP with the Ebony interior is going to be available for 2005. If it is, then definitely I'm going to go for that. *crosses fingers*

John

by what i am reading the only change in colors is the red will come with ebony interior.
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I'm in NY, and I'm trying to coordinate a similar deal. Someone from OR contacted me with interest and I thought maybe we could look into car distributors that sell online. If we could wourk out the logistics, I'm in for December on a 2005 CG 5AT w/nav.
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everyone might wanna start getting on the ball and getting pre approved for financing.
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interested in texas

Hi everyone... My first post, but I've been lurking for about 8 or 9 months now. I was ready to buy a 2004, but decided that I really want the steering wheel lights, XM, and hopefully some of the reported rattles to be worked out. I'm looking to buy in Nov-Dec-Jan timeframe too, so if we could get internet group-buy, I'd be interested...

OR... if anyone knows where I could find a 2004 milano-red, 5AT/navi, I think I could easily be convinced to forego the lights and XM. I know it's a rare combo...

PS... love the forum. I already feel like I know the car, when I haven't even bought it! test drove about 3 months ago, and can't wait to own my TSX!
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Me tooo

This if my first post too and I have been lurking here for almost a year now.
I am definitely interested in a group buy. Acura of Pleasonton offered me a 04 for $1200 below MSRP. Dont know if thats a good price at all.
What is the ball park we can expect for the prices on 05s? Just an approximation is what i am looking for. I need to decide if I should wait a month more for the 05 or just go ahead on buying the 04. BTW I am interested in a NHB/Ebony combination.
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The 05 price shouldn't be more than a couple hundred over the 2004 invoice.

AT Non Navi MSRP 27,035.00
AT Non Navi Invoice 24,691.00

MT Non Navi MSRP 27,035.00
MT Non Navi Invoice 24,691.00

AT Navi MSRP 29,035.00
AT Navi Invoice 26,512.00

MT Navi MSRP 29,035.00
MT Navi Invoice 26,512.00
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Just have a thought about getting ur group deal from southern cali...
What you should know is that you really shouldn't drive on freeway for that long under 3k miles.. Within first 3k miles, you engine's breaking in and you shouldn't put 500 miles coming from LA crusing at 70~80 mph (which is a little high for a new engine IMO) on I-5. New engines need breaking-in time and crusing on freeway on same speed for long time is NOT recommended by anyone or car manual.
I mean you could take time on that 500 mile trip, resting every 30 mins and varying your RPM between 2.5k~3.5k or so, but.... It's a lot of time/money to do that when you wanna get $500 deal.
Well, I'm just thinking you guys should stick with dealers in Northern Cali cause price can't differ thta much in same state within 500 mis... Just drive your new car safe and break-in well.
I'm really interested in buying a TSX, but I don't think I can afford a new car for now. Just keep it in Bay Area and deal well. It will return better result for all of you.
I was just saying cause I was concerned. I hope you guys will get a great deal and love your ride.


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