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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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Lightbulb Day Time Running Lights TSX

I read many members from the TL forum have added DRL modules for their 04+ TL's.

Has any TSX owners added the DRL module successfully?

Here the TL DRL thread


I'm definitely planning to get DRL's for the TSX if this module works for our cars.


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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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^^ Canadian Owners can disregard this. You guys already get this feature.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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hmm what does a tsx look like with drls ? canadians plz post a pic =)
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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If it's not too expensive and difficult, I want DRLs on my TSX too.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:55 AM
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pics of what it looks like?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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Wonder why the TSX doesn't have DRL. Rl, TL, MDX, RDX, Accord, Cvic etc they all have it. It would look good if you get the yellow bulbs like Piaa or Nokia.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:53 AM
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Exclamation

Well the unit is about $29 bucks from autobarn.com.

But I want to do a bit more research before I tackle this project.

Here a TL with the mod.

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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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Looks like the TL is using high beam for the DLR.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:57 AM
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I hate my DRL's I was seriously thinking about swaping them out for a angel eye kit, or atleast some nicer bulbs...to me they look so yellowish and ugly.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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i would never put DRLs in my TSX. They look like AZZ IMHO.
I drive with my headlights on 24/7, so that renders them useless anyway.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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id want the DRLs, if i could also have an optional switch to turn them off....sometimes i like the look...other times i dont :P
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GTSX-05
I hate my DRL's I was seriously thinking about swaping them out for a angel eye kit, or atleast some nicer bulbs...to me they look so yellowish and ugly.
Don't bother trying "whiter" bulbs, they don't work too well (I tried it). The problem is that the bulbs are lit at a lower intensity for DRL duty, so no matter what bulb you put in, it will look yellowish.

The highbeam performance is whiter and better, but in DRL mode, it's still pretty yellow.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Ugh. Some one always has to bring up the "I hate the way they look" garbage. Do you rip the seatbelts out of your car because they ruin the look? How about the airbags? Crumple zones?

It's a safety feature damnit. It's not there for vanity.

Oh, and I wouldn't mind dedicated DRLs. I always drive with the headlights on and it'd be nice to spare the HIDs seeing how much the bulbs cost.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
Ugh. Some one always has to bring up the "I hate the way they look" garbage. Do you rip the seatbelts out of your car because they ruin the look? How about the airbags? Crumple zones?

It's a safety feature damnit. It's not there for vanity.

Oh, and I wouldn't mind dedicated DRLs. I always drive with the headlights on and it'd be nice to spare the HIDs seeing how much the bulbs cost.
Let me re-phrase my comment, I don’t “hate” the DRL’s I just dislike the yellowish colour to them, however I don’t understand why your bringing up irrelevant issues such as seatbelts? Crumple zones? My comment was geared towards the colour. I already swapped out the DRL bulbs in my MDX for PIAA 6000K Ultra White Bulbs and they look great. Brighter bulbs not only look better they also help us to be seen by other drivers.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
Ugh. Some one always has to bring up the "I hate the way they look" garbage. Do you rip the seatbelts out of your car because they ruin the look? How about the airbags? Crumple zones?

It's a safety feature damnit. It's not there for vanity.

Oh, and I wouldn't mind dedicated DRLs. I always drive with the headlights on and it'd be nice to spare the HIDs seeing how much the bulbs cost.

Let me start by saying that i am a fan of DRL's I think they are a useful saftey feature. I dont mind the way they look in their stock form either. With that said I have yet to see one report that confirms that they reduce the risk of accidents. So far I dont think they have been statistically shown to reduce accidents. The evidence of seatbelts, airbags, and crumple zones is well documented.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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I'm probably gonna see what white DRL's look like but I'm thinking they chose the OEM type ones b/c they more visible.

Got any pics of the 6000K as DRL's?


Well, let the researching begin......
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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There were some oft sited studies done in Norway about 20 years ago that showed something like a 50% reduction in two vehicle accidents for cars so equipped. The usual response is that it's not relevant due to much more adverse visibility conditions under normal circumstances in Norway. Around the same time there was a study in Canada specifically revolving around motorcycles which showed a dramatic reduction in collisions where the motorcycle's right of way was violated. I think something similar was repeated more recently in the UK with similar findings.

I've spent some to time studying human information processing when I was in school. One thing I found very interesting is how poorly our brains and senses handle processing a visual field for a frame of reference moving faster than about 20 mph. Throughout the vast majority of our species history, the fastest we've had to deal with moving is as fast as we can run or an animal could carry us. On top of that, visual field when driving a car is often extremely complicated. If you take a picture out the windshield and look at it as an abstract 2 dimensional image you will see a very complex pattern of lines and shapes. If you take a series of pictures you will see that this complex pattern changes dramatically in a very short period of time.

What ends up happening is our visual cortex needs to rapidly decide what info can be discarded and what needs to further processing and eventually moved into conscious part of our brain. This pushes our visual cortex to it's utmost limit as a lot of different types of laboratory experiments have shown.

Something that emits a bright specular point of light really gets the rods in your eye tingling which in turn fires more synapses up through the whole visual pipeline. It's a pattern our eyes and brain can recognize quickly and easily separate out as something that our conscious mind needs to be aware of.

When you look at a moving scene it's easy for your brain to not realize that rapidly moving and changing shapes make up an object that is advancing towards you. Our brains just simply aren't built to put the complicated pictures together in such a manner that says a group of shapes that was over in a particular region of your vision is now this other group of shapes in this other distant region region of vision. The bright points of light are easier to process and have the added advantage of triggering more rods as they sweep a path across your retina. Your eyes (which are actually a very specialized part of your brain, there is a fair amount of processing that happens in the retina itself) easily recognize those streaks and cues the brain in to the fact that those things that were over there just a second ago are the same thing that is now over here. In a sea of moving shapes and colors, they jump out as something moving in a particular direction rather than just swirling about.

Anecdotally, how many times have you almost pulled out in front of a car without there lights on vs a car with it's lights on. Even if you stop yourself well before any potential problem develops, pay attention to how much sooner you notice the car with the lights on. 99 times of 100 you have plenty of time either way but one of those times there will be a large enough delay in the time it took you to recognize the car to require you to make a rapid correction.. or get nailed. The problem is exacerbated by grey and brown colored cars because they more easily blend into the background.



One more thing then I'm done. Yellow lights are actually an advantage in the day because reflections from the sun tend to be more blue shifted, since blue light scatters more when it reflects. There are lots of bright blueish things streaking about when driving during the day. The more you drive, the more brain gets trained to ignore these signals as something that it needs to be aware of.

On top of that, our eyes are anatomically designed to be less aware of blue things than yellow. There are specific cones that pick up blue which happen to be the least prolific type of receptor in our eyes since our visual field would be overwhelmed with 'useless' information if we registered all the blue light that typically enters our eye (again, because it's so easily scattered). Yellow light is detected by a signal from two different cells, the blue and green detecting cones. It therefore has higher signal to noise ratio and is more easily detected as something of visual significance.

Sorry for the long-windedness but I wanted to spread some of the knowledge I've gathered up on this subject around instead of just saying "trust me". Also sorry I have no references to site but they're out there, though maybe not easily accessible from the internet.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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I am glad you took the time to explain that to me and to share that with us, I learned a lot by reading that...I withdraw any miss-guided, miss informed statements I made on DRL's. The human mind is quite complex and very interesting; I will also be spending some time in area of philosophy during my school career.

“It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, are of different opinion, it is because they only know their own side of the question.” – Socrates.

Sorry I just thought that qoute was in the right context.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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If you find that stuff interesting, take an intro neuroscience class. We (humans) haven't even scratched the surface of understanding how the brain works. All we've done so far is make some large scale observations and generalized conclusions about the way unfathomably large numbers of individual neurons interact with other humongous collections of neurons. And that's still enough to utterly blow my mind.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Is not that bad looking.. I actually like it..I installed mines a few months back and never looked back on it or tought about taking it off.. I have my installed to cum off only when I turn my headlight on.. I could of done it when I turn my parking lights on but I didn't want too..I installed it my self .. Took me about an hour in a half.. I will throw some pictures today and show ya...forgot to add that they turn on when I take the car of park.. everything works regular.. If u pop the high beams they turn on regular..... is a hot feature
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Is not that bad looking.. I actually like it..I installed mines a few months back and never looked back on it or tought about taking it off.. I have my installed to cum off only when I turn my headlight on.. I could of done it when I turn my parking lights on but I didn't want too..I installed it my self .. Took me about an hour in a half.. I will throw some pictures today and show ya...forgot to add that they turn on when I take the car of park.. everything works regular.. If u pop the high beams they turn on regular..... is a hot feature
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
If you find that stuff interesting, take an intro neuroscience class. We (humans) haven't even scratched the surface of understanding how the brain works. All we've done so far is make some large scale observations and generalized conclusions about the way unfathomably large numbers of individual neurons interact with other humongous collections of neurons. And that's still enough to utterly blow my mind.

Great. I have a huge neuro test on wednesday and this is where i come during my study break and now you have posted neuro on here. There is no room for any of that on a car forum. Please dont ruin this for me.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Flounder
Looks like the TL is using high beam for the DLR.
The TL is using fog lights for the DRL. That TL has bi-xenons. (I think)
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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yeah ur right it is using the fog lights.. my tsx uses the hig beams as the day time runing lights..it uses about 35% of the light..
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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If tsx does not have DRL why is there a light for it on the dash cluster?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DurgyNess
If tsx does not have DRL why is there a light for it on the dash cluster?

Probably for us Canadians
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Hahaha so my car is from canada eh?
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Hahaha so my car is from canada eh?
Nah, they probably use the same gauge cluster for both US/Canadian models, but it's only used in Canadian ones.
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Old Feb 7, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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There's also a low wiper fluid indicator but no sensor for it in the US model. I guess Canadians are too good to use a dipstick.
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Old Feb 9, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LukeaTron
There's also a low wiper fluid indicator but no sensor for it in the US model. I guess Canadians are too good to use a dipstick.
Naw, we're just more fussy and demanding and like to pay higher prices! Or so it seems.

I wonder whether the Canadian TSX body panels are protected better due to the general colder climate and salt on the roads, etc?
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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Sooo, opinions on bulbs, and Canadian vs. US options (not to mention a left-field drift into Philosophy and Neuroscience...) - is this a doable mod with the available TL DRL module? Or, some other comparable module? What module did you use for yours offsight204? Thanks!
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