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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Cut off switch? or what?

So I don't know if I'm the only one but, everytime I try to push my TSX around the highways here it seems that the cars top speed cuts off at about 110-112 mph. What are you TSXs topping out at? I don't have any modifications to the engine yet. Is that everyone else case or just mine, cause even when I had my civic the would cut out at 120. Its fustrating if you ask me, cause if I were to really push it say against a civic I'd be beat when we hit top speed. I don't know you guys tell me your experiences. And if you have modifications and where you engine is shutting off at. And is there anything that I can do about this? ECU upgrades, etc?
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I've heard stories of people topping out at 145 mph on the 6MT.

I've topped out at 140 mph on the 5AT.
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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I've reached 120 mph on my AT, haven't topped it yet, but reaching 'only' 120 was peanuts
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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When the 04 came out it was advertised as having a top speed of 143mph. There are a number of theads about whether this is drag limited or ECU limited and I don't recall if it was conclusively proven one way or the other. The 06 may have a higher top speed due to having more ponies (don't know if the 06 front air dam and fogs are less or more slippery than the 04/05) if its drag limited. Either way, your 110-112mph seems pretty low. It must be something else going on with your TSX.
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Damn so it looks like I stand alone...I did find 110 as a very low number. Anyone know as to where I can start with figuring out what might be the problem. I do drive the automatic and I figured that, that might have been it. But looks like I have to start looking into whats going on.
Old Jan 7, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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I've heard stories of people topping out at 145 mph on the 6MT.

I've topped out at 140 mph on the 5AT.

Are you running any mods?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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Are you running any mods?

try sport shift?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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I thought you hated sportshift Bradykp =P
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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I thought you hated sportshift Bradykp =P

i dont like it, but it would be a way to get him above 110mph, unless there really was a problem with the car.

i've ussed it a few times since our debate, and i still get no satisfaction at all out of sportshift. it just doesn't feel the same as far as shifting up and down at the appropriate times to actually drive long periods with SS. i only use it if a NJ driver pisses me off and i want a jolt of speed to get around em.
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I've hit up to 138, but I ran out of country road. I'm sure it would've passed the 140 mark. I have no clue why your car can't pass 120?
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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try sport shift?
I haven't tried with the SS, but on my way to work tomorrow I'll try it out. And I totally agree with you Bradykp inregards to not being satisfied with shifting on the SS. I feel like I have to watch the RPMs on the dash way too much, rather than feeling it in the pedal. But thats my fault going with the automatic. But I can't do much when I needed it for my wife to drive the car too with the kids. But soon I'm get my jollys out when I purchase my "fun" car.
Old Jan 8, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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So I don't know if I'm the only one but, everytime I try to push my TSX around the highways here it seems that the cars top speed cuts off at about 110-112 mph. What are you TSXs topping out at? I don't have any modifications to the engine yet. Is that everyone else case or just mine, cause even when I had my civic the would cut out at 120. Its fustrating if you ask me, cause if I were to really push it say against a civic I'd be beat when we hit top speed. I don't know you guys tell me your experiences. And if you have modifications and where you engine is shutting off at. And is there anything that I can do about this? ECU upgrades, etc?
I hope they throw you in jail.
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Are you running any mods?
Yeah. I have the Hondata ECU reflash, Comptech Intake, and DC Header. I was running the Injen intake when I hit 140 mph. I hit in SS mode in 4th gear.
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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"So yesterday, I came up to a school zone with a bunch of kindergarteners and parked buses, so I decided to floor it and see if my slalom time through the 5 year olds matched the results that R&T posted in their review, and it wasn't good. My 1/4 mile slalom was a full second off of the time in their review! Could there be something wrong with my tires or something? The lateral G forces were so bad that I knocked three kids over in the middle of my run! Boy, was I embarrassed! Would A-spec suspension help?"

Just a bit of sarcasm for all the dumbwipes who endanger other people by their stupid driving on public roads. If you push your car to the limits of its top speed anywhere but on the track, you are an ass. Cut it out before you find out the limits of your airbag system and kill somebody else in the process.
Old Jan 9, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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"So yesterday, I came up to a school zone with a bunch of kindergarteners and parked buses, so I decided to floor it and see if my slalom time through the 5 year olds matched the results that R&T posted in their review, and it wasn't good. My 1/4 mile slalom was a full second off of the time in their review! Could there be something wrong with my tires or something? The lateral G forces were so bad that I knocked three kids over in the middle of my run! Boy, was I embarrassed! Would A-spec suspension help?"

Just a bit of sarcasm for all the dumbwipes who endanger other people by their stupid driving on public roads. If you push your car to the limits of its top speed anywhere but on the track, you are an ass. Cut it out before you find out the limits of your airbag system and kill somebody else in the process.
on some highways, you can push your car a bit because of the nature of the highway, as long as it's not crowded. no reason to bash without knowing the full situation.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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on some highways, you can push your car a bit because of the nature of the highway, as long as it's not crowded. no reason to bash without knowing the full situation.
The guy lives in New Jersey. There is no highway in New Jersey where you can safely drive 140mph and there is no highway in America where it is legal to do so. And I have no problem "bashing" anyone who is endangering other people for a thrill.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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New Jersey has many highways that you can achieve high speeds on...especially at night without any cars in sight...for one I-95 or the GSP...I ignore these negative critics we seem to encounter on your day to day internet. Say what you want to say, I'm gonna still speak out on anything whether people agree or not.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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So I was driving in SS early this morning when I was pulled up on by a GS, it surprised me that he really wanted to wipe his car but I decided to run with him. In SS I was about to bring her up to 118 this time in 4th. I wasn't able to take her any further cause of the fact that there were many trucks out. So I figure that the cut off might just have been in automatic mode. B/c of the previous runs where in automatic.
Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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The guy lives in New Jersey. There is no highway in New Jersey where you can safely drive 140mph and there is no highway in America where it is legal to do so. And I have no problem "bashing" anyone who is endangering other people for a thrill.

I live in jersey, there aren't many roads you can do it due to traffic, but there are places you can. legality is a different issue, we weren't talking about whether it was legal. are you saying you always drive the posted limit, and decrease your speed all the time for any weather conditions? if you are, then good for you.

either way, he's not endangering people for a thrill, he's just trying to see what his car can do. hopefully responsibly, which is possible.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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I live in jersey, there aren't many roads you can do it due to traffic, but there are places you can. legality is a different issue, we weren't talking about whether it was legal. are you saying you always drive the posted limit, and decrease your speed all the time for any weather conditions? if you are, then good for you.

either way, he's not endangering people for a thrill, he's just trying to see what his car can do. hopefully responsibly, which is possible.
Do I always obey the posted speed limit? No. Do I ever push my car to its limits on public roads? NO.

If you ever have a friend or a family member killed by someone who is racing or joy riding, then you would view the subject quite differently.

Interstate 95 is not an Autobahn. There is never any reason to find out if your TSX will do 140 mph on a highway where there will be people driving less than half your speed or (far worse) on a country road where a car, animal, or person could jump out in front of you without any warning. Having no regard for your own safety is your own business, but when you do it on a public road, it becomes MY business as well.
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Do I always obey the posted speed limit? No. Do I ever push my car to its limits on public roads? NO.

If you ever have a friend or a family member killed by someone who is racing or joy riding, then you would view the subject quite differently.

Interstate 95 is not an Autobahn. There is never any reason to find out if your TSX will do 140 mph on a highway where there will be people driving less than half your speed or (far worse) on a country road where a car, animal, or person could jump out in front of you without any warning. Having no regard for your own safety is your own business, but when you do it on a public road, it becomes MY business as well.
i agree that you shouldn't do it on a country road, where an animal could jump out, endangering yourself. there's reasons why speed limits are posted, and set at the speeds which they are set at. if you don't obey the posted speed limit for ANY reason, you're raising the risk to yourself and others. obviously, raising risk to yourself is your own decision, but others, you have a responsibility.

I95 is not an Autobahn, but often, these roads, with 4 lanes, don't have traffic on them. I'm not saying you have many opportunities to do it, and that it's 100% safe, but there are situations on public roads where you could push your car harder and not endanger others. you have to be smart about it, and hopefully you are a good driver. Would I ever go 140 on the highway? Maybe, under the right circumstances. I don't think that when i've pushed the car to 90 or 100 that I endangered others, but I'm sure there was some level of risk to others as well, but I think I had that risk under control.

Going 80 is very dangerous to others, as is 75, 70 etc etc. But most of us do that on a daily basis without a thought.

If you're going to push your car, you better be damn sure that the car is in good condition, can handle well, and not lose your head with excitement and go faster than you can handle. Also, hopefully, you're a fairly experienced driver.

Again, not saying you should be doing this on the highways, especially in NJ with the potholes, but i think Beoshingus is wrong in saying that there's nowhere you can safely do this besides a track.

And I can say that i've lost very close friends in auto accidents, on multiple occasions.
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In my video, we were doing 135-140 with the windows open and 4 people in the car. I'm sure there's a little more there. However, good luck if you're going to go to the dealer for help. I doubt any mechanic or service advisor will endanger himself or others to "verify the problem...."

As for anyone driving "responsably" at 130 plus on a public road, that's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one.
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In my video, we were doing 135-140 with the windows open and 4 people in the car. I'm sure there's a little more there. However, good luck if you're going to go to the dealer for help. I doubt any mechanic or service advisor will endanger himself or others to "verify the problem...."

As for anyone driving "responsably" at 130 plus on a public road, that's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one.
So no one can possibly drive responsibly on a public access road, even if the road is empty?

I'm specifically thinking of a highway in northeast pennsylvania, between scranton and honesdale. It's route 6, known as the "Casey Highway" to locals. the speed limit is 65. It's wide open road, can litterally see as far as your eyes will allow you, as it's a fairly straight road. Even turns, there are few trees on the sides, so you can see around the turns. There's about 6 exits on about 20 miles of road. There's hardly anyone on this road, as it's a bypass road to business route 6, which has most of the traffic.

The turns are banked, almost like on a race track. It's a fairly new road (about 8 years old now) so the road is in great condition, not so much recently, but in the past. This road was built for speed.

When my dad finished rebuilding the 528i he has, we took it up there to push it, and took it to 120 easily. When my friend got his 93 SHO, same thing, except we pushed that to 130. At no point did we even see another car when we did this. It was mid day, clear and bright, so visibility was good.

Good drivers were behind the wheel. Not professionals, but good, experienced drivers (my dad works for a company that requires ongoing driver safety courses to be taken, and has his commercial license).

Anyways, my point is, no one on this board knows every road in the U.S enough to say that there is nowhere this can be done. And i'm saying i've seend roads that are almost like being on a track, only difference is it's a public road. If there's no cars on the road, what's wrong with pushing it. I'd hesitate to say there's such a road in jersey, where i live now, but i don't know enough to say.

I know that the fun and games on route 6 are practically over, as there has been a recent influx of state police on the road. they finally realized that EVERYONE on the road speeds, almost not even realizing it since the road was so perfectly built for it, and now they ticket almost all the time.

But i believe there are places it can be done. Shit, ever drive through Kansas? I swear you can see from one end of the state to the other.
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So no one can possibly drive responsibly on a public access road, even if the road is empty?
Well, he did post this later....

Originally Posted by SimpleWhite
In SS I was about to bring her up to 118 this time in 4th. I wasn't able to take her any further cause of the fact that there were many trucks out.
So I'd say at least one time he was trying this the roads were not empty....
He said in the original post....

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So I don't know if I'm the only one but, everytime I try to push my TSX around the highways
Again no mention of public access roads (unless I'm not understanding the meaning of "highway"). Anyway, that was not the point. If he's unable to go over 110, he needs:

a) More road
b) More guts (Chicken lift?)
c) someone to look at the car. Probably a speed shop because I don't see how anyone could test to see if he's got a problem and where it lies.
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Well, he did post this later....



So I'd say at least one time he was trying this the roads were not empty....
He said in the original post....



Again no mention of public access roads (unless I'm not understanding the meaning of "highway"). Anyway, that was not the point. If he's unable to go over 110, he needs:

a) More road
b) More guts (Chicken lift?)
c) someone to look at the car. Probably a speed shop because I don't see how anyone could test to see if he's got a problem and where it lies.
i believe a highway is a public access road, unless i'm misunderstanding (interestates etc). and the reason why he didn't go further is because he approached traffic, that's the way i'm taking it. and i'm not even saying he was doing things responsibly because I don't know if he was. i just think it's hard to say, like some have said, that no one can push a car to those speeds responsibly on a public road. there certainly are scenarios, in many areas, that would allow it to happen safely. that's all i was trying to say.
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Driving 140mph on a public road is irresponsible, period.
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^^ It's a good thing, then, that he can only go 110mph. (although 110 on public roads is still irresponsible)
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Driving 140mph on a public road is irresponsible, period.

driving out of control is irresponsible period. for some people, that could be 80mph. for others, it could be 180mph. i just don't believe in blanket statements like the one made above. if you believe it, fine. but it's in my nature to always think that something is possible. i am a consultant after all. i try to avoid words like never, always, etc etc.
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I don't care if its Michael Schumaker driving a TSX at 140mph. You can control the car but, if you're on a public road/highway you can't control the environment. Animals, potholes, pedestrians, other drivers, etc. Too many variables to take that chance.
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you guys are getting to in depth about this whole thing...relax yourselves, why are you getting all worked up about this. Can't we all just get along :whocares:
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Originally Posted by jlukja

I don't care if its Michael Schumaker driving a TSX at 140mph. You can control the car but, if you're on a public road/highway you can't control the environment. Animals, potholes, pedestrians, other drivers, etc. Too many variables to take that chance.
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Originally Posted by jlukja

I don't care if its Michael Schumaker driving a TSX at 140mph. You can control the car but, if you're on a public road/highway you can't control the environment. Animals, potholes, pedestrians, other drivers, etc. Too many variables to take that chance.



if you know the road, and if there are no potholes, and it's a wide open road, like the one i speak of.....there's no pedestrians, so that's not an issue, and you litterally would know if there was a car way way way before you came up on it. i'm saying there's a road in NEPA that you can literally see as far as your eyes will allow. there's a HUGE median in the middle of the road, so nothing on that side.....and there's at least a 200 foot clearance on the right....with zero trees or shrubs for 100's and 100's of feet. so it's clear sight, the road was recently built so no potholes.....

that's what i'm saying. there are roads in america that the environment is not dangerous. and i've seen one of them so i know this. you can't speak for every road in america unless you've seen them all. i've seen a road where you could do this on. i honestly don't even think there's been a single accident on it (maybe 1 or 2) in the 6 or 7 years the road has been there.
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Originally Posted by jlukja

I don't care if its Michael Schumaker driving a TSX at 140mph. You can control the car but, if you're on a public road/highway you can't control the environment. Animals, potholes, pedestrians, other drivers, etc. Too many variables to take that chance.



Originally Posted by bradykp
driving out of control is irresponsible period. for some people, that could be 80mph. for others, it could be 180mph. i just don't believe in blanket statements like the one made above. if you believe it, fine. but it's in my nature to always think that something is possible. i am a consultant after all. i try to avoid words like never, always, etc etc.
Are you suggesting that the speed limit should be higher for you than for everybody else? The fact that you "don't believe in blanket statements like the one above" is why you're a consultant and not a physicist. If it was "in your nature to think that something is possible," then it would be in your nature to be cautious and think that "hey, it is POSSIBLE that something could happen faster than my ability to react to it when I'm driving at high speeds..."
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And that's all I have to say on the matter.
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And that's all I have to say on the matter.
Forest Gump couldn't have said it better!
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Originally Posted by bradykp
if you know the road, and if there are no potholes,
What if there is a new pothole that wasn't previously there. If you hit it at speeds and blow a tire. There is a very good chance that you could lose control and crash. It only takes one time.
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Originally Posted by Beoshingus





Are you suggesting that the speed limit should be higher for you than for everybody else? The fact that you "don't believe in blanket statements like the one above" is why you're a consultant and not a physicist. If it was "in your nature to think that something is possible," then it would be in your nature to be cautious and think that "hey, it is POSSIBLE that something could happen faster than my ability to react to it when I'm driving at high speeds..."


i never said i should have a higher speed limit. and i never said that i'm necessarily the one that can drive at 140. probably not, and most likely wouldn't. but, you say that it's impossible. i'm challenging you because i'm saying i know of roads where it wouldn't be that dangerous to do it, under the correct circumstances. that's all. i do think something can happen that one wouldn't be able to react to; that's why in one post i said it wouldn't be 100% risk free, but it wouldn't be very risky.
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Originally Posted by Tsx536
What if there is a new pothole that wasn't previously there. If you hit it at speeds and blow a tire. There is a very good chance that you could lose control and crash. It only takes one time.

well, like i said previously, you'd have to know the road. i'm not saying go to a road and just blow it up to 140. ride the road, make sure nothing changed...etc etc.

all i'm saying is that i believe there are scenarios where it CAN be done. if you do it blindly, then yeah, there could be things you didn't know about.



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