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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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What oil do you guys reconmend at 30k miles and why?
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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there isnt a "best" oil. it depends on how you drive and your change intervals.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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A good general oil is Mobil1.
The new Super syn series is what a lot of folks here use. Of course there are more expensive oils that "supposidely" protect better. They usually are not readily available and only available by mail order in most cases.

The supersyn is a truly 100% synthetic oil. You can even grab a jug of it at Walmart. If you are under "normal" as defined in your owners manual, many here feel safe to go the full 10k mi between oil changes while using the supersyn.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
A good general oil is Mobil1.
The new Super syn series is what a lot of folks here use. Of course there are more expensive oils that "supposidely" protect better. They usually are not readily available and only available by mail order in most cases.

The supersyn is a truly 100% synthetic oil. You can even grab a jug of it at Walmart. If you are under "normal" as defined in your owners manual, many here feel safe to go the full 10k mi between oil changes while using the supersyn.
whats the different types, like synthetic and real? Why would I want one over the other? BTW where I live it gets about 20-40 degrees in the winter and 95 and up during the summer and well im tryin to say I live a temperate climate if that makes a difference.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alin10123
A good general oil is Mobil1.
The new Super syn series is what a lot of folks here use. Of course there are more expensive oils that "supposidely" protect better. They usually are not readily available and only available by mail order in most cases.

The supersyn is a truly 100% synthetic oil. You can even grab a jug of it at Walmart. If you are under "normal" as defined in your owners manual, many here feel safe to go the full 10k mi between oil changes while using the supersyn.
this is what i have been using since my first oil change


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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by virus7
this is what i have been using since my first oil change


is ur car really yellow with hydrolics??
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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is ur car really yellow with hydrolics??
its Sunburst Yellow and i have 6.5" of lift on my airbags.....













j/k
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by virus7
its Sunburst Yellow and i have 6.5" of lift on my airbags.....















j/k
Sounds like something Pamela Anderson would say.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Sounds like something Pamela Anderson would say.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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i use Mobil 1 and Pamela Anderson is HOTT!
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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I use Castrol Syntec, it's easy to find as well. I run it in my Accord, I run the same grade in the TSX so I only need to stock the one type of oil.

It used to come in 5qt jugs at Kmart, that was nice. Still you can find it easy and onsale at most places. Some guy put 1-million miles on an Accord with this stuff....good enough for me then.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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As a general rule of thumb... if you change your oil & filter at 5k miles or less, conventional (5W30) oil is more than enough protection for you. If you change between 5k & 10k, synthetic is recommended.

I like Castrol GTX for conventional & either Castrol Syntec or Mobil 1 for synthetic.
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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I use Mobil 1, been using it since my third oil change, and I have about 27k mi on my TSX. I run my car hard occasionally, and I change my oil at 5k miles. I feel better using synthetic in case I don't have time and I run a little over 5k in my oil change interval. I notice oil color stay amber longer than conventional motor oil
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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Good info here.

www.bobistheoilguy.com
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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OEM oil is good enough.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Guys,
I don’t come here anyone but I’ll chime in my $0.02 on this subject.

Synthetics DON’T protect better, they simply are superior to conventionals at temps >305F because of their increased oxidation resistance. Funny how I previously thought that syns offered longer service intervals, but after a recent discussion with a GM engineer whom worked on the GM Oil Life Monitor, he discussed how syns and dinos both contain the same amount of ZDP (Anti-Wear additive) thus they do not have a longer service life. Although syns may have a higher starting TBN due to more active additive, acid buildup is rarely the reason why oil is changed.

Although those are his opinions and people on BITOG think differently, I don’t totally agree with either one and am currently in search of more information on this topic, as I believe that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Back on topic….

I’ve seen good results with the $1.50/qt, Trop Artic Blend 5w-30 at Walmart. It is an excellent oil, and is suitable for 3-5K, 6 month drains on the TSX with plenty of life left. A $2 Supertech (Ecore) Oil Filter will do the job well for these shorter drains, and I’ve had no problems with them compared to the issues that some people have had with FRAM Extra Guards. Using higher-end filters are a waste of money and complete overkill, and will yield you no benefits over the filter I suggested.

If you really intend on doing longer drains, I suggest running the NEW, reformulated 10.6cst Amsoil “ASL” 5w-30 (API SM/ILSAC GF-4 rated) syn for a 7000-10000 mi. service interval with a Purolator PureOne or better oil filter.

However, I highly suggest running shorter, 3-5K service intervals with a quality oil such as the Trop Artic I’ve mentioned above as it is less expensive and offers the same protection as the synthetic.

Michael
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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I use Mobil 1 oil and OEM oil filter for daily driving and I switch to Motul 8100 with Mobil 1 oil filter for track.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan

I’ve seen good results with the $1.50/qt, Trop Artic Blend 5w-30 at Walmart. It is an excellent oil, and is suitable for 3-5K, 6 month drains on the TSX with plenty of life left. A $2 Supertech (Ecore) Oil Filter will do the job well for these shorter drains, and I’ve had no problems with them compared to the issues that some people have had with FRAM Extra Guards. Using higher-end filters are a waste of money and complete overkill, and will yield you no benefits over the filter I suggested.

I Agree.

People have so many different opinions about oil and oil filters and everyone thinks that there views are the best. In highschool i had a autoshop teacher(one of the smarest guys ive ever met) who also used to be a mechanic for GM for 25 years. He always said to stay away from valvoline and most synthetics are a waste of money as long as you change your oil on time, In fact he always recommened Havoline oil from walmart.

As far as the filters are concerned, I had a 93 chrysler new yorker with 160k on it that i just sold that all i used on it was havoline and walmart brand filters. Never had a problem with either of them thru the life of the car. Alot of people want to get al lthese fancy filters when in the end, as long as you change your oil regularly you dont need them.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan
Guys,
I don’t come here anyone but I’ll chime in my $0.02 on this subject.
How come?
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Walmart oil change, Mobile1 synthetic and a fram filter for $30.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sauceman
How come?
Mainly because there doesn't seem to be very many oil threads.

Actually, I think I can help with stuff other than maintenance, so I'm back.

No worries sauceman!

MW
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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I've been taking it to the dealer, and I don't think they use synthetic, since they only charge me about $6.25 for all the oil. However, I'm taking it to a different place this time, and I'm going to try switching to synthetic, so I can go longer between service intervals - mainly for the convenience. They charge quite a bit more than the dealer though. $70 vs. $30, but it's also waay more convenient for me to get to.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan
Mainly because there doesn't seem to be very many oil threads.

Actually, I think I can help with stuff other than maintenance, so I'm back.

No worries sauceman!

MW
Obviously, you're always appreciated here, even if just for some postwhoring.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan
Guys,
I don’t come here anyone but I’ll chime in my $0.02 on this subject.

Synthetics DON’T protect better,

Uh....pretty sure it does protect better. If not, why do most high end cars roll off the factory line with synthetic motor oil in it. Even the Corvette comes with factory filled Mobil 1...........
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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Uh....pretty sure it does protect better. If not, why do most high end cars roll off the factory line with synthetic motor oil in it. Even the Corvette comes with factory filled Mobil 1...........
Mickey,
I’ve spoken with a GM engineer from engine design and he discussed that the reason for the factory fill of M1 5w-30 in the Corvette and a few other models is because they are considered “track ready.” Thus, the M1 5w-30 has an advantage over conventionals at oil temperatures >305F, thus, the elimination of a costly and leak prone oil cooler. This also applies to the souped up version of the Cobalt and the XLR.

In addition, a few models featuring the VVT technology such as the 3.6L V-6 in the Cadillac also use M1 or syn because of the better flow I guess to allow the VVT system to operate properly. (This is off the top of my head, will have to double check those e-mails to make sure.)

OT: Notice that I made a spelling mistake in my earlier post…LOL….but I am back.

MW
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan

OT: Notice that I made a spelling mistake in my earlier post…LOL….but I am back.

MW
Welcome back Michael. Its always good to have a knowledgeable oil guy around.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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I'm not an oil expert, but I use synthetic motor oil mainly for start up protection in very cold temperatures. It can get below -30 F or C here in the winter. The syn is suppose to work better in those temperatures at start up.

I used syn in my other vehicle right from the start. I'm not sure if it contributed to it's good performance but I have never once added oil between oil changes.

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