Since we all had so much fun on the last thread regarding the use of a ebrake with a manual how about now a automatic? For those autmatic guys out there when do you use your ebrake???? I know this thread is ridiculous by the way

 

when I park my car I always shift to neutral then apply the ebrake and then put the car in park. it is not could to park your car on your automatic tranny.

 

I just use the ebrake when I park. I read in the manual that you should e brake than shift
to brake

 

i do the exact same thing everytime i park, shift it to neutral, and then e-brake, then park.....it just give me a solid feel when you park, instead of the autotran to give you a forward-back feel..........(also good for your tranny if you park in e-brake too)

 

i've never heard that before...i'm gonna try that from now on!

 

I keep my foot on the brake, shift to park, parking brake, then let off the brake.

When I leave, parking brake down, shift to drive, then go!

 

I only use the e-brake when I'm parked on an incline. But may start using it all the time.

 

I use it when doing u-turn's. My rear slides out, and I complete the U-turn quickly and sharply.

I don't do it in the rain anymore. Pretty scary when you can do a 200 degree turn on a dime

 

I will threw in a ridiculous question in this "ridiculous" thread -- why is it called "e-break"? I know "e" stands for engine, but when the car is parked, engine is not doing anything, that includes "breaking".

Isn't it suppose to be "hand-break"?

 

Actually its a "hand-brake", while we're arguing symantics here.

And yes, its most practical purpose is to help you take 270 degree turns in the snow. But I do use it for 'proper' parking as mentioned above.

 

I thought the 'e' in e-brake stands for emergency? Maybe I'm wrong...

 

the 'e' in 'e-brake' does stand for emergency...

emergency brake / hand brake

same difference...

i'm pretty sure it was originally developed so that if your brakes fail you have some way of slowing yourself down, hence 'emergency' brakes...

 

I was always told it was a Parking Brake. I don't think the small rears would be able to stop you in an emergency.

Also the braking system is broken in half, LF&RR and RF&LR, in case there's a problem somewhere. My newb

 

the e-brake is activated by a cable and is not hydraulic, so if your brake fluid goes out etc etc., your e-brake is the only thing that will work, hence the emergency part of it... and the reason it works when you car is off

 

Aren't most JDM's manuals?

Anyway, why bother putting it in neutral?
Why not go all the way to P while holding the brakes, then use the e-brake, then release foot brake?

 

i'm pretty sure this is about the opposite of what you'd want to do

 

I beg to differ, it's not an "emergency" brake cuz if all hydraulic brakes failed it won't be enough to stop the car, within a reasonable speed of course, that's why people are still able to drive with the parking brake on and not notice.

So, like what has already been said. It's really supposed to be called a parking brake.

 

The index uses both Emergency and Parking. However the page they both refer to call is a "Parking Brake" (04 5AT)

Whether the car is parked on a hill or not I always use the parking brake.

Granted "e-brake" sounds better than "p-brake"

 

I think Parking Brake is a more suitable term describing the actual function.

I would do brake first, then shift to Park, tightly put on the parking brake, then turn off the engine. The reason for that order is because there is more holding power from all 4 brakes (while the engine is still running) than just relying on the rear parking brake to initially hold the car in place.

 

I will go with "Parking Brake". I confuse E-break between "Emergency brake" and "Engine brake", i.e. letting high-RPM in the engine to slow down the car.

 

lol...and plus in auto school, you'd be hammered and teased about by your teacher if you called it an "e-brake".

That whole lurching jump that some of you may feel when you shift to park is the transmission lock falling into place. Sometimes it is in between gears so the pin or the arm that goes down sort of finds it's way in between the teeth. In addition, there still might be some slight pressure in the torque converter that is causing the frontside turbine to spin...forgot the name of the part already. It takes a little bit to relieve that pressure and that's why some of you shift to neutral so that the fluid is diverted away. It's not so bad in small cars, but larger cars such as trucks that have a larger torque converter lurching is more apparent from the remaining pressure (especially my Tundra). Personally, that's the only vehicle I shift to neutral first, then park and that's only when I put in the garage because it's a damn tight fight in there and I have to park in a specific spot as close as possible to the garage door or I won't be able to open the dryer door. But normally anywhere else or any other car, it's straight to park and apply the parking brake.

It is very important that you do set your parking brake because of two reasons. For one, if you've ever rebuilt a tranny you know that locking arm or pin is just a simple metal and given enough stress, it can break. Your parking brake as someone said is much more safer and has stronger holding capacity than that single pin that slips onto a gear teeth. Second, in drum brakes (not applicable in the TSX) applying the rear parking brake helps keep the shoe to drum clearance in specification range.

 

You guys call it parking brakes. In Australia, it's called the hand brake. In Japan, it's called the E-brake.

 

Bingo, Right on.

 

I used to drive a stick civic and learnt a habbit to park w/ the hand brake on. Even though mine is a AT TSX but still carry the same habbit over when parking

 

Exactly what I do as well. This saves the transmission. If you stop on an incline or decline and just throw it in park and take your foot off the brake the car will move and rest on the transmission. Then when you go to start it and throw it in gear, it pops. And all that weight on the tranny will take it's toll sooner than later. It leads to clunking and slipping way sooner. Replacing your rear pads is way easier and cheaper than a tranny. (Reminds me of the question, "Is it better to down shift or hit the brakes?"......Which is cheaper? Brakes or a clutch? Brakes by a hundred miles!)

BTW- When using the term e-brake it's definately "emergency". But parking brake is a better term for most of it's use.

I've never heard Engine brake before. That sounds retarded. When I hear engine brake it makes me cry because that usually means I have spend money to fix something.

 

Why not park the car, and while your foot is still on the brakes, shift to "park", pull the parking brake and then lift your foot off the brakes? This would be more affective in preventing your transmission from "popping".

BTW, how can you not have heard about engine braking? It's when you are in low gear (1st or 2nd) and you lift your foot off the throttle. The car will slow down on its own and that is engine braking.

 

apply brakes, put in park then pull up emergency brakes

i ALWAYS have my emergency brakes on when the car is off.....regardless

 

Resting the car on the parking pawl does NOT lead to the transmission slipping
You are only damaging the parking pawl itself.
If you have slippage, it's likely the torque converter or fluids.

Engine braking is a common term and means exactly as it reads... using the engine to slow the car down.

 

^^^ Same here .

 

So what happens when it's a foot operated brake like on a truck? Still a hand brake?

 

or the clutches/bands...

I was trying to remember that part also, thanks!

And if not done properly can wear your transmission down quicker. What wierd is my auto tranny teacher recommends to downshift on an automatic when using engine braking to slow the car down say on a downgrade rather than roasting your brakes. I guess with the newer cars sensors, they won't allow a substantial shift to a gear if it will risk damaging anything.

 

LOL, our trucks still use hand brakes. The newer SUVs here now have foot operated parking brakes. I think trucks here are moving towards foot operated parking brakes as well.

 

My 20 year old 3 speed auto car also didn't allow a forced downshift when at too high a speed.

 

In every car, even autos, I use the parking brake. I feel safer that way that it won't roll anywhere. On automatic trans equipped cars, the "P" just deploys a small metal pin that brakes easily, especially while on inclines.

Oh, and it's not always called a "hand brake" because it's not always operated by hand! A lot of vehicles (minivans, trucks) have the parking brake located by your left foot on the far left. It's a small pedal. My mom's old 1994 Intrepid had that too.

 

same here and i always use my e-brake when i park...