I took delivery on Monday night and noticed the car's number was #9033. I asked the sales guy about it and he thought it was unusual... he checked another TSX that had came in on the same truck as mine... it's number was in the 6 thousands.

Anyone know why the production number is so high already? Why would there be such a large skip between two cars on the same shipment?

Maybe it is what it is.... 9000 down and 6000 to go!

 

No, they can't be going backwards. Because folks who got their cars very early (in April) have very low VIN numbers. Maybe the 6000 was a dealer trade that had been sitting on a lot for a while? I've had mine for a week (it's #8349), so 9033 sounds about right.

Now that I think about it, these cars must be selling great! We're already well over halfway through production for this year in only 3.5 months. There's still 5.5 months to go in '04, so they should definitely reach their goal of selling 15k TSXes this year. Sweet.

 

I'm # 6400 and took delivery in June (see sig). Remember, numbers are for North America, so a #9000 seems rational, but the smaller one is strange.

 

i'm #7275 and came off the truck on 6/24/03.

 

I"m not surprised. My number was just over 2000 and I got it begining of june. Keep in mind I am in Canada where we are getting only 4000. So per capita is seems to be selling even better in Canada.

 

Sorry to have to ask, but don't know for sure how to find the number.

Is it just the last few digits of the VIN? If so, I'm 2754 (picked up 4/28).

 

Hmm, I picked up #6014 on June 25.

 

That's good to know then... I thought that my #9033 was the odd ball... but it's his #6k that is actually out of place.

It's nice having the 'limited edition' model of the car... but it'll be really nice when the go full-bore on production w/ the TSX. Then we'll start to see some serious competition in the TSX toy aftermarket.

 

What do you mean by this? I hope some dealer didn't tell you that this car is a limited edition. A lot of people think Honda is only making 15,000 of them, when that number is only the sales target for the first year. They can and will make more if they can sell them.

Dispelling this myth is officially now my quest. I don't want anyone to get screwed into paying more b/c they believe something that isn't true.

 

I took delivery of mine 30th of may, and it's # 134.

 

Got mine on june 20 and my vim is 1522. I'm from Montreal.

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To echo above--how do you know what number yours is?

 

They aren't hoping to sell 15,000.
15000 is what is allotted (sp?) for North America.

 

We're talking about the last 4 digits of your VIN. Or, after we're past #009999 we'll look at the last 5 to 6 digits.

 

wow, im learning so much about cars in this forums its incrediable... so if someone got the 15000 number on their vin plate, or 00001, then their cars should be a collectors item eh?
Either way mines comming in august, I hope I get a good number on my vin =D

 

Maybe I'm no good with calendars, but aren't there 5.5 months left in 2003? I would figure the 2005 model wouldn't come out until at least June of 2004, so that would still leave us 11.5 months and only about 5000 TSX's left of the 15,000. My guess is that they will sell way more than the 15,000 by the time 2005's come out.

 

I think the 15,000 was a calendar year 2003 estimate, not a 2004 model year estimate.

 

Yes. At least that's what I've assumed too.

 

You might be right, but if that is the case, then who cares how many they make this calendar year. The 2004 TSX can then not be considered even somewhat rare. If, all in all, the 2004 model sells 15,000 this calendar year and then say another 15,000 in the first X months of next year, that first 15 grand becomes irrelevant. In ten years, no one is going to care whether your TSX was a 2004 bought in 2003 or a 2004 bought in 2004. Either way, it's a 2004.

 

Cool! I bought mine on June 26, and My TSX's #5536

 

Mine arrived at the dealer tonight. #9123

 

Do we or anyone know if these number actually increment by 1? I have a feeling that they probably don't because if they were, it might cause some mix up when the VIN numbers are written or relayed from one person to another. Also, I don't think they increment by one, because it would be too easy for people to duplicate and make fake ones for some odd reason that someone might. Just my thoughts, if anyone has the real numbering scheme they use, please let us now.

 

Interesting. I always assumed they were by 1's, but you're right -- they might not be.

 

I am 100% sure that they are numbered sequentially. A car is not like a Rolex watch or some other easily faked item. Do you think Acura is worried that Hyundai or Kia is going to make knock-off Acura’s? I don’t think so.

 

Hmm.. Mine is in the 4000s with a Mfr Date of 04/03. I just picked it up Tuesday

 

Where do you find the manufactured date?

 

Don't worry, I don't think it's a "Limited Edition". If it was, I'd insist on a <sarcasm>cool</sarcasm> sticker that says "Limited Edition". I was just refering to the exclusivity (I think that's a safer word to use) of the first model year available to us.

 

You're right. I meant '03, not '04 :P They'll reach the 15,000 easily is what I was trying to say.

 

At the current sales rate the last of the 15,000 TSX's should be rolling off the assembly line sometime in late Sept. or early Oct.

That'll leave the rest of the world drooling in anticipation for the 2005 TSX for about 6 months! HOLY CRAP!!

 

The 15,000 is not an allotment!!! It was Acura's sales estimate for the first year of production! Do any of you really believe that they will stop selling them in September because the first year's "allotment" is gone?

Be serious...this is not a limited production vehicle...the only reason the target was so low was so that it would be easily attainable and Honda could say "first year sales exceeded estimates by 84%" etc. Honda will sell as many as possible as fast as possible.

With that said, I don't think exclusivity will be a problem in the short-term. Say they sell 25,000 2004s before the 2005 model comes out. That is still a very low number in the scheme of things.

 

my bad...

...given the current trend, Acura will have met it 's sales estimate of 15,000 by late September. still...HOLY CRAP!

 

It's possible that the 6000 number was for a TSX that was damaged in transit and had to be repaired, and now the dealer will try to sell it "as new". Just a possibility.

The salesperson will probably not tell you. Unless it's in writing, sales staff have a license to lie or misinform or act conveniently unknowing.

 

All I can find officially from Acura about TSX production is in one press release here - where they say "Acura projects sales of 15,000 units a year." - so they never said they will stop cold turkey at 15000 cars.

However I think that if they projected 15000 cars to be sold, they may not initially be prepared to build significantly more than that amount of cars. Maybe they'll get to 20,000 cars, who knows? They started building them around March, so far they've had almost 5 months of car building, with 5 months left in the year. Sometimes factories may close for holidays, or may have a scheduled furlough to save labor costs and retool things, so they may not have the full 5 months left for car building. Does anybody actually know their schedule?

 

Nice get!

If that's really all they've said, then most of us have misinterpreted it in a couple of different ways (even besides the fact that maybe the figure means nothing anyway).

First, that they ever said 15,000 was a limit. I thought they did say it. Not that I ever believed it was a true limit even if they did -- but it looks like maybe they didn't even say it.

Secondly, that to whatever extent there's any significance to it, we've all been wrong about what is the "year" in question. From this quote, it looks like at the moment it would be April to April. I think everyone has been thinking either "calendar year 2003" or "model year 2004" -- both of which would be wrong.

 

Speaking of calendar vs model year.. the 15000/yr sounds like more of an average, a general sales goal. And yes, that would mean per 12 months more than per calendar or model year.

 

I went out to try and challenge the 15000 "sales figure" statement. What I found was that most publications were reporting it as a sales figure and that others simply misquoted their source by stating only 15000 were going to be produced. I found 1 article that said Canada was going to get 4000 TSXs and US was to get 15000. There is no way to support a claim that acura is only going to make 15000, it was simply a sale projection.

 

On my model it was listed inside the driver's door jamb. Right near a repeat of the VIN.

 

As to the question as to whether Honda can ramp up production of the TSX to cover the difference between projected and actual demand, the answer is almost certainly yes. Modern manufacturing companies (which certainly includes Honda) use sophisticated demand planning and forecasting tools that capture demand trends in real time and help automate factory production levels, part manufacturing, etc. Honda has almost certainly been aware of the increased demand level since April (and probably before then, since they had info on the number of pre-sales), which is plenty of time to begin to increase production. The fact that the TSX shares so many parts with various Accord lines certainly makes this easier as well.

 

not for nothing but here's what I was able to find...

From acuranews.com

"The TSX will go on sale in April, 2003 and be priced between $25,000 and $30,000. Acura projects sales of 15,000 units a year."


From hondanews.com

"Strong demand for the all-new 2004 TSX sports sedan pushed sales to 2,275 units for the month. "It looks like we've hit the mark with the new TSX sports sedan," said Dick Colliver, executive vice president, sales."

&

"In its first full month of sales, the TSX sold 1,835 units."

 

Hey Kidd! You're in the Bay Area, as in San Francisco Bay Area? I'm expecting my TSX in August too. What color and tranny did you order? Nav or No Nav?

I have a CG 6sp MT No Nav on order. I'm looking at mid-August delivery.