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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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2007 TSX Changes

I know people have posted that the only change from the 06 TSX to 07 is the TPMS...but there are a few more minor ones I thought I'd post, in case it hasn't been posted.


The Rear View Mirror is different. Totally different design etc. Instead of having 2 buttons, it only has one in the center, and seems to be more square than the one in my 06. I like this one better, seems a little more modern looking.


In the Gauge cluster, on my 06, when the Orange light that comes on and stays on if your seat belt isnt buckled, or your gas is low, is just that, a solid oragne light. In the 07, it's orange, but it has a little "i" in the middle, so you can tell it stands for info...


So far those are the only other differences I've noticed, but I'm looking for more :-)


However, I could be wrong about this, and I'll know for sure later when I get my car back, but there might be something different in the tranny/ecu


Here is why I think that:


I've read about how to launch Automatic's, since I've only had a manual rsx before this, that I learned how to drive stick on.


Anyway, if you search online, it talks about the way to launch an automatic is as follows.

Come to a stop, put your foot down on the brake and hold it down somewhat hard, now switch to neutral, with your foot on the brake, give it a good rev between 3-5rpm, you will then feel the brake actually go down a little more, keep holding it down, put back in drive, while holding break where it is, rev up to where you want and let your foot of the brake while your giving it throttle, this process is so your already at a higher RPM once you launch, so it's somewhat similar to a manual tranny, again, search on google, and this is a pretty standard method.


Now I've done this in my 06 a few times, and the part that seems to be different than the 07 is this: I did the above today with the 07, but after reving in neutral and allowing the brake to go down lower, and switching back to drive, when I went to give it throttle it would not let me rev past 2000rpm's, it esentially stopped it right there, even though I wasn't anywhere near redline ect.


Like I said, I remember doing this launch in the 06, but I do not remember it stopping me or should I say holding me at 2000rpm's, I beleive it let me go right on up to 4-5rpm with no problem


Again, it might of stopped me at 2krpm's, but I'm almost positive it didn't, I'll know for sure later tonight when I drive my 06, I'll test it out and post for sure.



So the question is, if this is the case, and the 07 does stop at 2000rpm's when your trying to launch with this method, does that mean there is something different in the tranny, or is that an ECU control????


BTW 04 and 05 AT owners, you try the above? Does it let you launch higher than 2000rpm's


Anyways, I'll post later with my findings
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Acurasrule
I know people have posted that the only change from the 06 TSX to 07 is the TPMS...but there are a few more minor ones I thought I'd post, in case it hasn't been posted.


The Rear View Mirror is different. Totally different design etc. Instead of having 2 buttons, it only has one in the center, and seems to be more square than the one in my 06....
You traded your 06 for an 07?
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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can't you just change it to the sports shift mode to launch faster? or is it still slow b/c it's working off an automatic transmission?
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rb1
You traded your 06 for an 07?
I think he got the '07 as a loaner, his current car is an '06
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
can't you just change it to the sports shift mode to launch faster? or is it still slow b/c it's working off an automatic transmission?
Again, the above stuff that I mentioned, was just using regular "D" as a reference point. I'll try doing everything mentioned above again, put this time, when I go to neutral to rev to get the brake to go down a little further, instead of going to D, I'll see what happens when I throw it in SS mode and see if it lets me rev past 2rpm's, I'll post later.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Acurasrule
In the Gauge cluster, on my 06, when the Orange light that comes on and stays on if your seat belt isnt buckled, or your gas is low, is just that, a solid oragne light. In the 07, it's orange, but it has a little "i" in the middle, so you can tell it stands for info...
I have an '06 and I'm nearly certain (I'm going to check to make sure) I have the lighted orange circle with an "i" in the middle of it.

If my gas is low, I have the lighted circle that appears next to the gas gauge, as well as the picture of the gas pump in the MID along with the lighted "i" orange circle.

If I don't put on my seatbelt, I get a picture in the MID of a person with a seatbelt on and the lighted "i" orange circle.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I just can't believe you are doing a neutral drop out. I would never put the car in N, rev it up, and then drop it into drive. That is sooo hard on the tranny its not even funny. If you really want to get a decent launch in an auto, just turn of the VSA, hold the brake, rev the engine up to like 2-3k (maybe higher is you really want to) while still holding the brake, and then let off the brake. But doing a neutral drop out.....OH man.....
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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You are correct ZAXDude

My 2006 has the i in the middle of the cirlce for all of those alerts as well.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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yeah, i was under the impression that revving an auto tranny in park or neutral is just bad. and this sounds even worse.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xjohnkdoex
yeah, i was under the impression that revving an auto tranny in park or neutral is just bad. and this sounds even worse.
Revving the car in park or neutral won't hurt it, but if you don't wait for the RPM's to drop back down before you put it in gear, you are going to hear some really loud BAD noises of the gears grinding and jumping forward or backward......NOT a good idea! You do it hard enough and your tranny will fall right out of your car.....my buddy had an older firebird and was at a light and revved it up to about 3.5k (redline was around 4-4.5) and dropped it into D, and you just heard a loud bang and the tranny was on the ground!!
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jwood_06TSX
I just can't believe you are doing a neutral drop out. I would never put the car in N, rev it up, and then drop it into drive. That is sooo hard on the tranny its not even funny. If you really want to get a decent launch in an auto, just turn of the VSA, hold the brake, rev the engine up to like 2-3k (maybe higher is you really want to) while still holding the brake, and then let off the brake. But doing a neutral drop out.....OH man.....

Dude, who is doing a neutral drop out? I don't think you read what I wrote correctly.


The reason you put the car in Neutral while your foot is on the brake, and rev it up, is because it allows the brake pedal to sink in further, you do NOT drop it in D from N while reved up, you simply go into Neutral to allow you to give it a good rev, and for some reason it let's the brake go further in...


From an Article on launching Techniques:

"If your car has power brakes, you could apply the brake-torquing technique even better. At the starting line, shift your auto gearbox into neutral and floor the brake pedal with your left foot. Rev the engine once and quickly get off the throttle. You will feel the brake pedal sink further to the floor. This greatly increases the braking force. Now shift back into gear. You will now be able to rev up the engine even higher against the torque converter."


From an Article on Launching Techniques:

"That's because the brake-torque launch is an automatic specialty. This launch involves keeping the car stationary by flooring the brakes with the left foot, while using the right foot to rev up the engine against the torque converter. In technical terms, this preloads the entire drivetrain with the stress of a launch, allowing the engine to rev closer to its power and torque peaks at the starting line. Brake-torquing is also beneficial for turbocharged engines as it allows boost to build up before the launch, reducing turbo lag. Unless your car has too much power for the tires to handle, a brake-torque launch usually will not spin the wheels. This is because the automatic transmission absorbs the shock by design, and brake-torquing actually reduces stress on the rest of the drivetrain. Instead of a sudden massive load, the drivetrain has the torque applied slower instead of one huge jolt. "
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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I should of been more clear

"Come to a stop, put your foot down on the brake and hold it down somewhat hard, now switch to neutral, with your foot on the brake, give it a good rev between 3-5rpm, you will then feel the brake actually go down a little more, keep holding it down, put back in drive, while holding break where it is, rev up to where you want and let your foot of the brake while your giving it throttle, this process is so your already at a higher RPM once you launch, so it's somewhat similar to a manual tranny, again, search on google, and this is a pretty standard method."

The above was from my original post, but it should be clear when I said keep holding it down, I was refering to the brake, and I should of said wait for the rpm's to drop back down to idle, then shift to drive. The only reason for the rev in neutral was to allow the brake pedal to sink in more... So yes, definitley don't drop it into drive from neutral while reving!
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Old Feb 23, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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I'm not familiar with this activity, but if you are wondering why you can't rev over 2K in neutral my guess is because the engine controls are intentionally set up that way so you can't add alot of needless/bad polution to the atmosphere by doing stupid stuff like this.
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