IArAndrew

My parents are really trying to discourage me from getting MT. I really want it and I learned from my friend, they know I can drive it, but I live in a place where there isnt really much traffic at all. I just need some excuses to convince them even more =).

So far I've used

Keeps you more concentrated on the road
Better Experience
Better Acceleration
More feeling to the car


Any more would be great =D.

Jason

I'd discourage you from getting a TSX. Why would you waste your money? Get a nice used car and save the money for later (college or house). I know that's not what you want to hear but that is the best thing to do at this point in your life.

IArAndrew

Yea, I know its alot for a first car, but my parents insisted because they gave my brother our Infiniti FX35 after using it for like only one year. The only reason they are willing to give it to me is because the FX35 was alot of money, and they think it would be fair. They also offered me a G35, but I told them it was too much money.

Edit*

My dad also wants the warranties and thinks if I got a used car, it would be just as much repairing, etc... I even offered to get a used and he said no =/.

LalchandYamlajat

His parents can afford it, why would he want a used car then.

Jason

It's not about whether his parents can afford it. A 16 year old doesn't really need a TSX. Frankly, I find the idea appalling but that's not my business. But instead of having his parents buy him a new TSX, why not get a nice used car and invest the $15,000 or so difference? That would be a great head start on a house and that's where the real money is. And if his parents are going to buy him a house too? Great, then put away that money for a kid. And if his parents are gonna spoil him for the rest of his life? Get a more expensive car now!

GIBSON6594

Being rich doesn't make you a good driver, I don't care how much money I have, my kid is not getting a brand new car as his first.

IArAndrew

I think they aren't too worried about that cause my brother had an accident in Target and we brought them to court and got money out of them, and they are giving them to us when we finish college to put a downpayment on our house and whatnot. But besides that I don't know.

jlukja

Um .. "better acceleration" is not a good justification for the parents. From their point of view, they don't want you racing around.

Try:

"better fuel economy"
"simpler mechanism, less expensive to fix"

On any other car I could say that the MT was less expensive, but not on the TSX.

madmanmax3000

Guys come on give him a break....I was 16 when I got my TSX 6MT and nothing to date has given me reason to think I should have gotten a different car (but I have had to mod the hell out of it to get some decent speed )

But honestly, the TSX has been a great car for me to learn with. It is almost 4x as much money as I've ever had in the bank, and I think that has been a large factor in me still being accident-free. I care so much about the car that I wouldn't be stupid and hurt it, if I had some shitty used car I would probably be smacking it into everything because I wouldn't care about it.

As for the tranny....My own TSX was the first car I tried to drive stick with. I've stalled it less than ten times in the life of the car. After driving many of my friends' stick shifts I would say this one is much easier to learn on. With my short shifter and metal bushings I have got to say that it is one of the best 6MTs I've driven (better than my friends' STI or S4)

So yeah, get the TSX with the 6MT, you'll love it

IArAndrew

Yea but the dealers have already told my parents that the fuel effeciency isn't too big of a difference. Their main disagreement is it's a pain in traffic and I wont like it later on. I'll try the simpler mechanism excuse though.

dj Dozhe

Tell them better traction in the snow. Fail to mention being able to start the automatic in 2 with the i-wish-i-was-a-real-manual-shifter. And to all of you people who are angry you didn't get a nice ass car when you were 16, grow up. Nice of you to judge though.

IArAndrew

Thanks guys.

Yea I live in Texas and last year was the first white Christmas in a LONG time, so thats not really a big factor.

dj Dozhe

tell you dad that HE KNOWS chicks dig a guy who drives a manual. Hope that he likes to live vicariously. Then he'll go convince your mom. done. Plus in the future when you buy another car you don't want to be handicapped because you can't drive a mt

STL

, but if you parents have money to burn on a new car then get a Civic SI or RSX-S. Those cars will be more fun!

madmanmax3000

tell him that if this wasn't america the only way you'd get away with driving automatic is if you were disabled

IArAndrew

Lol.


The only reason im not getting an RSX-S is cause of High insurance on fast sports cars for people my age.

psteng19

Tell them you'll be the cool kid in school because you drive stick

How about just being happy that they're getting you a car... or get a job and buy whatever you want with your own money.

dj Dozhe

once again another member climbs up the ass of a youngling and pouts.

STL

The new Civic Sedans look nice too. I hear an SI version is coming too.

LalchandYamlajat

The Si Coupe is already out

Jason

I can't believe teenagers drive TSXs. Good luck.

amadeus303

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Why don't you just tell your parents "Since I will be driving this car, can't I have the version of the car that I really want?" Honestly, does having a stick shift make someone more prone to accidents? I realize I'm biased because I prefer MTs, but if anything, I think driving a stick makes you more aware. Have you ever given your parents any reason to not trust you? If not, I would just appeal in a candid way using trust as the main focus.

Since everyone seems to be weighing in on the subject, I guess I'll just add my 2 cents, too. Should a 16 year old be driving around in a $30k car as his first vehicle? Who cares? My first car was a 1989 Ford Escort station wagon. My parents did (and do) okay for themselves, and at the time, it was the best vehicle they could give to me. It was my dad's commuter car that he used to go from NJ to NY everyday, and they had just bought a new Camry LE so that they could give it to me. There's not a single doubt in my mind that if my parents could've afforded to get me a brand new car, they would've... so why does it make any difference that IArAndrew is getting a $30k car? It seems like his parents do very well, and I would venture that if they even considered getting him a G35, they're not worried about his college fund. I'm sure they just want to get something for him that is nice looking, reliable, and safe. It also seems like this kid (excuse the term) realizes that he's fortunate...

Congrats either way Andrew... MT or AT, you'll be getting a great ride.

kenzo

Aren't they going to pay for insurance, gas, and maintenance?

03CoupeV6

Exactly.

In this day and age of so many cars and such heavy traffic in metro areas, I wouldn't put my child in some older used car. A TSX, with its long list of safety features and excellent crash scores, will keep him safe - and I'm sure that is his parent's first concern. If he takes the TSX out and crashes it the day he gets it, but it saves him, who cares about the car? You can go to any Acura dealer in the country and get an exact duplicate.

This is my main argument for people who put their kids in beater cars for no other reason than the belief that kids don't need new cars. If a beater is the best thing you can afford, then that's okay - but otherwise parents should look at the big picture of the difference in safety between new cars and cars that are several years old.

That being said, I'd probably get mine a CPO 04 TSX and put the rest away.. it would be cheaper and essentially the same vehicle where it counts (safety and reliability).

Jason

Well if safety is the number 1 feature, then how about a 2006 Civic (best rated in American Honda's lineup)? Or does it have to be a luxury nameplate for this young man?

03CoupeV6

An 06 Civic would do just fine, actually. I'm not saying it has to be a TSX.. I'm saying that I think one needs to consider more than just the year, make, and model of the vehicle when deciding what to get their kids (given that, like in this situation, the parents can afford it).

fuckleberry

First run to your folks, get down on your knees and do this
You should be smiling in your sleep like this



I think you should do WHATEVER your parents think is right, period.
If they think you should get a PINK TSX, obey it and smile yourself to rapture that you are getting a car that's WAYYYYY beyond your age and MOST people in this worlds richest country CAN NOT AFFORD IN THEIR FRIGGING LIFETIME !

So I hope you'll be mindful of your blessings and return the love to your parents down the road.

Congrats.

Jason

Dude just get a Civic. You're still getting a really nice car and you give yourself something to step up into later in life. Plus you save your parents some dough (even if they don't need it) and look like a mensch.

dj Dozhe

it'd be a mitzvah

Tintin

listen man
Get whatever car you want, and if you got your mind set on the TSX that means you have great taste!!
As far as manual vs auto...i am in the same boat, but i think i am going to chose auto because of all the traffic we get here. the only reason i will consider manual is to save 1000$ that they charge us Canadians for auto trans.

acn684

Man...some of you gotta learn to relax. Stop hating on this kid because he came onto the board asking a simple question. Yes it is an expensive car for someone his age, but then again he's not as spoiled as you guys think. He declined a G35, he offered to take a used car, but apparently his parents rather him have the TSX. Some kids, i guess im one of them, their parents have extremely careful about their safety. For me, i didn't get to drive until a year after i got my license because my dad didn't want me driving his car - insurance, health issues (he's paranoid about how many times his hands were on the wheel). So he bought my sister and I a 05 civic to drive around in. Like his situation, i went through the same thing. Despite the fact that my parents will definately not get me a g35, being young i wanted something sporty, yet something pratical beacuse it's for commute and errands while in college. It was narrowed down to an accord or a mazda6, however, it was going to be the accord because of its reliability. Almost signing the deal, i was able to find a tsx used, with 30k miles for only 22k at the time, practically the same price i we were going to pay for the accord. I was set on getting the car but then my dad decided that it would be safter to have a car you know is reliable from the start (no hard beated used cars, even if it did have extended warrenty) being that the climate up here is sickening, for 2-3k more. So thats how I'm ending up with a TSX.

Alot of you are just attacking him because you probably didn't have the fortune he has when you were younger - envy and jealousy is a sin remember that guys? I guess i can speak from a closer perspective, me being young, and having parents who would buy me a TSX. I'm not saying its cheap, but thats how some families are. Being a Cornell student, I encounter people whos fortunes are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher than mine. I'm talking about children of CEO's of some foturne 500 companies etc. You'll notice that our car is full of luxo cars, 5 series, porches, m3's, you name it, we have 10 of them at least. Theres 4 audi TT's...in a city where snow covers the place more than 70 percent of the time. But there is one thing I notice, most cars here are Volks and Audis - mainly because they're known to be reliable in the snow and harsh weather with their Quatro drives. Its not that they're spoiling their kid, they're treating them to better goods- hoping they come with better quality.

When I grow up, if I have the chance to, I wouldn't spoil my kids. But I wouldn't put them in harms way either. My kid wants a bicycle lets say. I'm not gonna go be cheap on him and give him a bike from a garage sale cause how safe can it be, nor will I give him a 1000 professional bike because they won't appreciate that stuff at that time.

Get at TSX if you want and don't listen to Jason bash you on your life. You're fortunate that you have parents who can afford these things, and you seem to appreciate it. All they see is You're too young to have such a nice car, you're spoiled. But I'm sure you can be waaaay more spoiled than some people see, at least ur not begging to get a 35k+ car. Some people here just can't stand the fact that they worked so hard in their life to get their stuff, and some people just get it instantly. I guess its reasonable, but its silly to think like that.

kyotousa

why?
if you are rich then you can fix the car rite?
besides brand new car always safer than used one.....unless you know wat to look for used car

my family doesn't...so my dad never buy used car

btw...my dad wouldnt let me get manual either
or else i'd be in RSX-S rite now..........but he is paying so I am just glad that i got the TSX

However...i think i would regret getting rsx-s tho...haha i am in love with this car rite now

my first car was my dad's Toyota Avalon
after awhile he got bored with his Lexus GS300 so i just drove it for like half yr
then i got my TSX.....
start driving at age of 16 ....lucky me

kyotousa

i second wat acn684 said....why be a hater
they can get watever they want......he is just asking for a simple question not asking to be preached....

anyway I live in Texas also

joerockt

Pain in traffic? How far do you drive to go to school?

waterrockets

I live in Austin and frequently commute in stop-and-go bumper to bumper traffic in my 6MT TSX. I wouldn't give it up for the world.

If traffic is moving really slowly, I can just leave it in 2nd and go really slow with light acceleration. If it traffic stops, it's easy to get going again. It also keeps my head in the game, as I won't lurch forward by default as I would in a 5AT. I have to consciously get the car going, which is good for focus.

Also, a 6MT allows the car to communicate with you better. It will help to build a foundation of driving experience where you have a more solid understanding of traction, acceleration, engine strain, and handling. All this adds up to a safer experience and knowledge of how to drive a car with more care for reliability.

It's much like how I teach people to mountain bike by trying to get them out on a rigid fork. It just communicates what's actually going on, and you don't end up using a suspension fork as a crutch for lazy riding style.

Plus, you don't want your left leg to atrophy w/out a clutch pedal

dj Dozhe

plus if you go automatic they actually make you turn in your testicles at the dealership. true story. I get mine back when my mt 06 arrives.

Jason

Not in my case. My parents could afford to buy me any car on the road, but I was grateful to get my Grandma's 1985 Cavalier. What a piece of shit that was but I loved it. It came with an AM radio. No FM.

I'm not bashing anybody. I just don't understand a 16 year old kid in a new TSX. I understand you younger guys taking this position, it's natural, but there's more to it than that. If the kid gets a TSX, more power to him. If his parents are throwing it at him how could he turn it down. But that's their problem.

Sclass88

I got my TSX when I was 16 but in 5AT... Unfortunately, I didn't get the 6MT. Like Max said, the TSX 6MT is one of the best to learn on. Show this thread to your parents and hopefully it will be convincing. Good Luck and enjoy the TSX when you get it.

And make sure you take care of it!!!

jlukja

OK, I get it, you love MT. Lets not bash AT drivers at every turn.

crfortin

a sedan with a MT will have crappy resale value in 3 years.

it prob. costs more to insure, & it even uses a little more gas.

You'll go faster, & you're slightly more likely to kill youself while changing gears trying to do some fancy heel and toe trick you read about on here and all that extra crap.

so relax and play with the manumatic untill you can glide through business school and take that first job with Daddy's company or whatever cushy future you have planned, OK ?