reving past indicated redline
10-30-2004, 02:05 AM
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reving past indicated redline
before i get any riduculous posts regarding how 16 year olds are retarded and that a tl is not meant for racing, i am more than aware of that. BUT IMO, sometimes all available power needs to be put to the ground, (and plus the good lord gave the car a 3.2 V6 for a reason. 
With that said, I was wondering whether it was safe to rev a 3.2tl past its indicated 6250ish redline. Since a TYPE II engine (I have a Type I) can rev to approx. 6800 rpm, is this rev range safe for a TYPE I engine, sinc they are both very similar with the exception of cylinder heads, valves, and ecu. For example, sticking my shift knob into "1" and manually shifting can allow one to delve about 250-300 rpms greater into the rev range, so that the engine shifts at approx. 6600rpm. Since this is well within the limits of a TYPE II engine, I was wondering whether this was O.K. for a type I.
With that said, I was wondering whether it was safe to rev a 3.2tl past its indicated 6250ish redline. Since a TYPE II engine (I have a Type I) can rev to approx. 6800 rpm, is this rev range safe for a TYPE I engine, sinc they are both very similar with the exception of cylinder heads, valves, and ecu. For example, sticking my shift knob into "1" and manually shifting can allow one to delve about 250-300 rpms greater into the rev range, so that the engine shifts at approx. 6600rpm. Since this is well within the limits of a TYPE II engine, I was wondering whether this was O.K. for a type I.
10-30-2004, 02:23 AM
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oh f***. man thats embarassing. 
posted in the photo gallery for some reason instead of regular forum. Somebody PLEASE move this post. Extremely sorry for the inconvenience. I need to get some sleep...... 
posted in the photo gallery for some reason instead of regular forum. Somebody PLEASE move this post. Extremely sorry for the inconvenience. I need to get some sleep......
10-30-2004, 02:34 AM
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No it will not cause any damage. There is a fuel cutoff to prevent any real damage
No it will not cause any damage. There is a fuel cutoff to prevent any real damage
10-30-2004, 09:33 PM
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There is a fuel cutoff to prevent any real damage
There is a fuel cutoff to prevent any real damage
Any idea at what rpm fuel cutoff kick in at? Is it O.K. to hit fuel cutoff, or would one not want to venture there?
10-31-2004, 02:51 AM
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Just because an engine shares the same block doesn't mean its the same engine. For example, the Ford GT's block is the same as a Ford Lightning, but I think everybody will admit they're completely different.
The biggest limiting factor to revs is the valvetrain. 4 valves per cylinder is an impressive feat for an SOHC. To accomplish this, Honda created some super long and thin valve stems. The entire assembly is heavy and has a lot of intertia which puts a lot of stress on the springs. This is why we have such a paltry red line.
So yes, I think there is some damage occuring when you go into the red. It might not be apparent, but its happening.
The Type II engine has different headers and valves from the Type I. That might not seem like a big difference, but when it comes to revs, it means a lot.
The biggest limiting factor to revs is the valvetrain. 4 valves per cylinder is an impressive feat for an SOHC. To accomplish this, Honda created some super long and thin valve stems. The entire assembly is heavy and has a lot of intertia which puts a lot of stress on the springs. This is why we have such a paltry red line.
So yes, I think there is some damage occuring when you go into the red. It might not be apparent, but its happening.
The Type II engine has different headers and valves from the Type I. That might not seem like a big difference, but when it comes to revs, it means a lot.
10-31-2004, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wackjum
The Type II engine has different headers and valves from the Type I. That might not seem like a big difference, but when it comes to revs, it means a lot.
Besides... its a luxury car... why rev unless really necessary, which is basicly if you are testing the car on a track or dyno'ing it... slow n' low is the best way to go... lol... i ryhmed again...
10-31-2004, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by spooky3ce
Just because of that conversion... i envy you 3.2 TL'ers...
Besides... its a luxury car... why rev unless really necessary, which is basicly if you are testing the car on a track or dyno'ing it... slow n' low is the best way to go... lol... i ryhmed again...
Besides... its a luxury car... why rev unless really necessary, which is basicly if you are testing the car on a track or dyno'ing it... slow n' low is the best way to go... lol... i ryhmed again...
I can agree with that
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Is there a rev limiter on the TL as well? The reason I ask is because i had the peddle on the floor one time and accidently hit the gear shirt into neutral. The sound it made reminded me of the sound a car makes when it hesitates, but it def. kept revving (just not dangerously above red line)
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