I'm planning on removing my power steering this weekend, but still uncertain on how I want to approach it. I was looking at the input/output lines where it connects to the rack, and it seems like it'll be more than a pain in the ass to get to where I need to get to. On top of that, even if I could loop it from where I wanted to, it seems the lines would be pinched due to spacing. I was considering cutting the power steering hose that connects to the pump and attaching it with a fitting and hose directly to the reservoir. Also thought the reservoir will now act as a breather. You think that should do the job? The purpose of the breather is to allow air and fluid to move through the rack with less resistance at low speeds which would help out a lot at the tracks. So the main question is, will the reservoir act as a breather now, or should I "T" off the hose into a seperate breather???

Let me know any inputs you have.

 

I honestly have no idea, but am wanting to know how to do a power steering delete myself.

FULLRACE did it to his 2.x, but not sure if it owudl be much different for the 3.0.

 

Well, by simply fitting the power steering hose with another straight to the reservoir should loop the system. The question I have is if the reservoir will now act as a breather. If you see where our input and output lines are on the rack, you will see how big of a biatch it will be to loop it through there.

 

why get rid of the power steering?

 

who needs it for the track?

 

if u ever decide to do autoX... then u would want it... but I doubt cocoa is ognna do autoX... hmm?

 

Been at it for awhile now. Just haven't gone in my car since it was down forever. But before it was down, we did it illegally up on the mountains. Since then, my friends and I switched over from doing it on the mountains to the tracks. Unfortunately I havent driven on the tracks since I havent had my car. But I have gone plenty of times to watch my friends run. Yes, I will be autoxing, and not doing too much of drag. Right now I am concentrating on brakes, suspension, and chasis.

 

dont do it its impossible to steer that shit

 

if you do this you may have to alsot buy some sort of a bump steer kit. I'm not 100% sure on CL's but on many cars without power steering, lets say ur in the canyons and theres a slight uneven surface and u hit a bump, the steering will put you out of alignment and if the bump is severe enough the steering will force you over the cliff or into the wall if you dont do some major countersteering to correct it.

I kno this because i dont have power steering anymore with my new car, and alot of people crash without these kits on roads or canyons because of the uneven pavement, I only recommend you taking out the power steering if your only gonna use it on a track where you know the road is perfect...other than that I dont even kno if they have a kit like this for the CL so in my opinion Id leave the power steering alone

 

I cant find anything like this for the CL, but here's a very rough example of what I'm kinda talking about. I could be wrong, but safely speaking you never know

http://www.elephantracing.com/suspen...1bumpsteer.htm

 

That's an easy fix, just raise the car. That is one of the problems with "Slamming" cars. Your control arms flare up. They should be flared out or slightly downward, not upward. Another problem with slamming cars from my understanding is, negative camber turns into positive camber during hard cornering when your car is slammed and you have the lower control arm flared upward. Here is a diagram for you to look at:



In order to accomplish zero bump the tie rod must fall between an imaginary line that runs from the upper ball joint through the lower ball joint and an imaginary line that runs through the upper a-arm pivot and the lower control arm pivot. In addition, the centerline of the tie rod must intersect with the instant center created by the upper a-arm and the lower control arm.




There is a lot more to suspension tuning then we talk about on ACL. That is the world I've been exploring right now with my car. And yes, Prothane Poly Rack bushings for the rack would help with any sloppy feel to the steering. Do they make them for our cars? Well, I guess I'll have to find out if any for the accords will do.

 

im going to have a sweet setup yet i wont know how to drive.

 

Crashing in the mountains has nothing to do with power steering. It has to do with the stupidity of "racing" through the mountains in the first place.

 

Your upper control arms should always be "flared"/pointed up (lower inside, higher outside). The angle will increase when you lower your car (too excesive is obviously bad). If you're talking about the lower control arm, it's a over generalization to say "they should be level with the ground."

Wheels will always go to positive camber during roll, no matter how high or low the car is. That's why with static negative camber and a good camber curve (camber gain during bump), you'll end up with overall zero camber during roll. (example: +3 camber from turn + (-2 static camber + (-1) camber gain = zero camber, giving you maximum contact patch.) Lowering a cl/accord will put you in a better spot along the camber curve, I've measured it.

IMHO, you should disconnect ps first, before removing it. See if you like one or the other. If you like it better without PS, then take the time to remove it. PS will NOT hinder your driving whatsoever. Most people just remove it to act hardcore.

 

curious, what setup are you looking at?

 

I know I didn't post that. I think that was my friend Mauricio that got on my account and fucking typed that. That fucking asshole. I wouldn't say such a phrase...

 

You fucking asshole MC. Might as well change my password to this site too...

 

Last I checked, Max blew your time at the tracks with a stock s2k by like 8 seconds. Where were your skills then? Ass...

Btw, hint of advice, you'll need more than that 20G to pull on me on the freeway. Sad, cause my shit is still stock...

 

btw, i still love ya man...i'm just fucking with ya.

but the CL is still > than the Evo. lol.

 

For those of you interested in seeing his sick Evo, here is his myspace:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.?fu...endid=40061492

He does not have updated pics on it. His background, is his car.

 

And to answer your question "azian21485", I am still uncertain as to what suspension setup I'm going to run. Have a lot of ideas right now, but I guess it's time to trial and error them.

 

you're going to autox, but you want to get rid of power steering.. Im not as knowledgable in cars as you are man, but that combination just doesnt sound right at all...

 

you don't need PS for autox. Again, PS is personal preference. Unassisted steering only becomes an issue with:

Lots of caster
Really wide tires