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Old 12-08-2001, 01:13 PM
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Shock sensor

OK, I decided that I need to install the shock sensor in order for me to sleep better at night. (got my front bumper damaged a few months ago by someone in my parking garage).

I need to know one thing before I do the install. If someone hits my car, and the sensor does pick it up, and the alarm goes on. For how long will the alarm go on for??? If it resets after a while, that's cool, but I definately don't want it to be going off forever until my battery drains.

Any input would be appreciated,

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Old 12-08-2001, 02:37 PM
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Easy way to figure this out.....roll down your window and set your alarm. Reach in and unlock and open your door. Time how long the alarm goes on for... That should work....I don't believe it will go on for more than 1 minute..I am thinking around 30secs
Old 12-08-2001, 11:36 PM
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2 minutes I believe it is. Make sure you wait 15 seconds after setting the alarm if you do the trick tw1112 suggested... the alarm does not arm untill 15 seconds after you lock the doors.
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One last thing, to anyone who's done the mod on a 1st gen CL, where does the sensor go??? I've tried searching everywhere on the newsgroup, but all I can find are people that have done the mods on newere CLs...

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Old 12-09-2001, 07:12 PM
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you can go ask an alarm installer about where the shock sensors normally go....but I would think either....the doors or the rear bumper? Dunno......I do think it is up to preference..like where you would like it to be most 'alert'
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Well, I was planning on installing 2 shock sensors, one in the front, and one in the rear...

What I really meant, was which wire do I connect it to on the stock factory Acura CL alarm system??? Which color, or the name of the wire (since I have to full pinout with color codes).

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Old 12-09-2001, 10:23 PM
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That is the problem that I have never gotten an answer to. Hopefully someone knows this time.
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Here you guys go. DO a search on Shock Sensor. There should be a list that comes up. The one u're lookin for it the one Titled "CL Shop Manual" and started by CL-Z. In there you'll find the wires colors, and the brain of the alarm is under the passager seat. Hope it helps. I'm putting one in when i get my shock sensor. Should be there soon. GOOD LUCK.
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Originally posted by 99CL
Here you guys go. DO a search on Shock Sensor. There should be a list that comes up. The one u're lookin for it the one Titled "CL Shop Manual" and started by CL-Z. In there you'll find the wires colors, and the brain of the alarm is under the passager seat. Hope it helps. I'm putting one in when i get my shock sensor. Should be there soon. GOOD LUCK.
Here ya go!!

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...ht=Shop+Manual
Old 12-10-2001, 11:52 AM
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I did get the sensor installed and it does work.

There are three wires that need to be connected but I don't which ones off the top of my head. I will post it tonight, when I get home.
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CL-Z: Yes, please do!!! I want to get the install done by this week-end, so I definately need to know where I need to connect the shock sensor. Thanks a lot for the help...

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Hey CL-Z, so you got it working? Cause i remember u told me that u could only get the first stage to work or something cause it was a dual shock. The wire color that we need would be nice. My shock sensor should be here tomorrow. So if u could put it up it would be so much easier for me so i don't have to look at that shop manual.
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Okay, here is what to do...................

I can only say this will work with the DEI Dual Shock Sensor, so if you use something different, good luck.

Also, some older DEI models will have a 5th orange wire which needs to be grounded or place with the blcak wire.

Black wire .......A10
Red wire .........A12
Blue wire.........B1
Green wire.......not used

I wanted the warn-away mode to work and connected the green wire to A8. It did work.....if you tapped the car the siren would chirp....but it would do it all the time....reguardless if the alarm was armed or not, this is b/c Alpine does not provide a constant ground when the alarm is armed.

NOTE: if you arm the alarm directly after you shut the door, the siren will NOT chirp and the lights will NOT flash........this is b/c it thinks the hood is open and will go active about 20 seconds later. Even though the alarm still functions perfectly, I like to hear the chirp so, I'll usually wait about 5 seconds to arm the alarm and all is well.



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Thanks a lot... This helps a lot... I think this post should be archived, for future reference, that way First Gen CLers don't have to go hunting for the info again.

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Originally posted by MontrealCL
Thanks a lot... This helps a lot... I think this post should be archived, for future reference, that way First Gen CLers don't have to go hunting for the info again.

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That's probably a good idea...........


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Old 12-15-2001, 12:39 AM
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Just put mine in tonite. Pretty damn easy to do. But i think i'm gonna need one more Shock Sensor. One just isn't enough. Got to hit the car pretty damn HARD to get it to come on. And I already adjust it. TO those to have them already. WHERE DID U PUT THEM? I'm gonna get one more to i could put on in the front and back of the car.
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Hey, where'd the detailed diagram go? I can't seem to see it anymore??? I was going to print it tonight...

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I don't know where it went, but try getting CL-Z to reload the pic. BUt here's some infomation if u have the Shop Manual for the alarm.

-- Black wire (ground for the Shock sensor) .......A10 (Black wire, this is ground. On the Smaller Plug which is the 12pin connector)

-- Red wire (should be Power on the Shock Sensor) .........A12 (It's a WHITE wire. This is on the 12pin connector)

-- Blue wire (Stage 2 of the Shock Sensor. Full Alarm sound).........B1( This is the Light Green wire. On the 18pin Connector.)

-- Green wire (Stage 1 of the shock sensor. the Warn).......not used (reason like CL-Z said is because if the car is on it would still warm.) BUt if u want it's A8 which is the Brown wire on the 12pin Connector.

HOpe this still work for u. But i think the picture would be more helpfull.
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Umm, I just thought of something, how about installing an extra circuit that'll disable the WARNING beep when the car is on? I think it should be fairly easy to do... I could probably connect it to the accessory 12V on the fuse box, it turns on and off when the car is on/off.... That way we'll be able to get the warning alert.

Yeah, CL-Z, if you can repost the PIC, I dunno what happened, but it's not there anymore...

Thanks,

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Here is the re-post:



You may have to clip the link into your browser.....

http://images.fotki.com/free/9d95/1/...pinouts-or.jpg
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That deactivation circuit would work but remember even when you don't arm the system it will chirp the siren.
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I already have the circuit designed, consists of a simple SPDT relay, and a few diodes. If the car is not armed, indeed it will chirp, but the alarm won't go off. Is there any wire that sends out any sort of voltage when the alarm is armed??? That would be just perfect...

How about designing some sort of latch which would be connected to the BLINKING ALARM LED, and as soon as the circuit detects a high pulse, it would ENABLE the CHIRP circuit, and you can incorporate a de-activation circuit that'll disable the CHIRP circuit if a new PULSE (LED GOING ON) is not detected within 5 seconds or (meaning the ALARM has been turned off). That could work, no? Comments?

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If there was a circuit that was charged or grounded when armed......life would be grand.

The closest thing is the LED lead. It is grounded when armed but the ground is pulse which cause the LED to flash.........something like......closed for 1 sec then open for 3 seconds.
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I know we can add one shock sensor, but I'm thinking about adding two (possibly more)....do we have the outputs/ability to add more than one...if so...how do I go about that?
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Two should work...........
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Yeah, 2 or more should work, only thing I would advise when installing more than 1 shock sensor, is put a diode in (1N4004) series with the shock sensors 2nd stage output lead (...and the first stage as well IF you use it) because when one shock sensor goes off, you don't want the voltage to go into the output of the other shock sensor --- might damage it.
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