rerouted ac vent to intake
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smoke another one and think of something else then post it.
would the AC draw that much power away or would the cold AC running into the engine produce more power? if you get under pulley would that help reduce the AC compressor from drawing so much power?
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I actually tried that last year with my 2.2.....
nah... the HP gained through the cold air from the AC is actually not enough to make up for the HP lost with the AC on... so in another words... after all that work ur back to stage1...
Should just get some 3" alluminum tubes and than route it the way a CAI will and than down to the lower grille.. Now i got more HP from that than from my CAI... that way... when ur driving the air is directly forced into ur intake....
nah... the HP gained through the cold air from the AC is actually not enough to make up for the HP lost with the AC on... so in another words... after all that work ur back to stage1...
Should just get some 3" alluminum tubes and than route it the way a CAI will and than down to the lower grille.. Now i got more HP from that than from my CAI... that way... when ur driving the air is directly forced into ur intake....
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Well, I spent an hour working out why this wouldn't work based on power lost from running the a/c compressor versus the gain in air pressure and cooling when applied to the normal air intake of the 3.2L CL based on the CFM of a standard auto a/c compressor.
In the end I determined that it would result in a 30% increase in airflow, a 20 degree drop in temperature, and that your car uses 180 gallons of gas per minute at 3k rpms.
Math is hard.
In the end I determined that it would result in a 30% increase in airflow, a 20 degree drop in temperature, and that your car uses 180 gallons of gas per minute at 3k rpms.
Math is hard.
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Ford demonstrated a technology that is not too far off. In their F150 Lightning prototype they used the built-in A/C system to cool some air and dump it in the intake when you flick a switch. I think they got quite a bit of hp out of this system. Similar to N2O though, you couldn't have it on all the time. Obviously a different thing, but your reasoning is sound.
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oh yeah....i have heard something about ford doing that a while back. what i heard is that one of the ac line run into the airbox and cool it from there...not to increase the air flow but to cool it.
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Anyways, I'm inclined to say that a properly built system _might_ work. Using a high-volume yet effecient system that created a cold air reserve when running under normal driving and then turned off and blew the air into the engine under WOT perhaps.
The idea being that the A/C would create a cold air charge and then shut off to avoid draining power from the engine while adding that cold air into the system perhaps.
It would neccesarily have to be more complicated than just connecting hose A to intake B, though.
The idea being that the A/C would create a cold air charge and then shut off to avoid draining power from the engine while adding that cold air into the system perhaps.
It would neccesarily have to be more complicated than just connecting hose A to intake B, though.
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Or even better use a flywheel/battery system to store energy to run the compressor independently of the engine during WOT so the air stays cool without the parasitic loss.
Of course, you'd have to do some tests to see if there was enough of a gain to warrant all the additional trouble...and I'm inclined to think that you'd need to be able to push at least as much air as the engine is sucking in, which is more than a standard car's a/c compressor can put out...
Of course, you'd have to do some tests to see if there was enough of a gain to warrant all the additional trouble...and I'm inclined to think that you'd need to be able to push at least as much air as the engine is sucking in, which is more than a standard car's a/c compressor can put out...
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