ekimpay

my tires no longer look /-----\

just installed Ingalls 3572 ($110) in the front and bolt/washers ($12) in the rear. took me about 2 hours. i'll have the alignment checked tomorrow.

WineRed2.2CL

what do u mean bolt and washers in back? You used bolts and washers to correct the cambert for the back that way? If so where can i obtain them at and how can i install them.


cause i did the front wit ingalls.....when u hit a bump do u hear a clank noise?


thanks

ekimpay

i have a 2.2CL, this may only apply to the first gen. i replaced the bolts (2 each) in the upper control arm with M10-1.25 50mm so i can fit 3 3/8" washers per bolt. this moved the control arm away from the body. i'll find out from the alignment if 3 washers is enough to correct the almost -2 degrees on the rear.

i did put loctite on the bolts.

MaCe

hey how much u dropped? .. i have the same ingalls setup as u do let me know how it goes and if those washers are enough .. there is a rear control arm that can also be bought if the washers dont work but its mad loot .. good luck

MaCe

ekimpay

i'm not sure with the drop. i'm still trying to figure out what the stock height measurement is from ground to fender lip (bought the car used). on stock tires 205/55-16 is still have about half an inch between the tire and fender lip (24.75" from the ground to lip).

i looked at the rear control arm (Ingalls 3880/3882). too much money for now. the principle looks the same. i'll let you know of the alignment results.

ekimpay

so far i don't. since ours have the polyurethane bushings, did you put some grease in it? i used moly-graph grease (the one for repacking bearings).

ilike2cheez

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how was the install? was it difficult? looks like u have to take the off the bolts from the upper control arm right??? Can ajustment be easily made when the wheel is off? or can u ajust it on the alignment rack from underneath. SOunds like a bitch if u put it on the rack and have to drive thecar off and jack it up ,remove the wheel, ajust it and put everything back and then drive it back on the rack. ya know?

ekimpay

the install wasn't too difficult. just have to remove the fuse box and strut bar out of the way to reach one of the bolts. i didn't even bother using the airtool for it.

i had a free alignment check after i installed the coilovers so i had an idea for the camber. in the front, i set it up close to the +2 marker. so it hasn't been on the rack. my guess is the alignment guy should be able to reach the adjustment nut from underneath (car on the rack) without removing the wheel.

ilike2cheez

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my camber is -1.8 for the driver side and -1.7 for the passenger. If the kit has markings like u said then i can just set it close to the +2 and ill be fine right? I didnt know it has markings. I thought u had to eyeball it and take it to the alignment rack. Do the markings only come on the ingalls? or do other brands have them to?(ie: specialty products)

WineRed2.2CL

So did the washers correct the rear camber?


let us know wassup

MaCe

yea how do the washers work ?? .. and u dont know how much of a drop u have??? kinda weird ... and Ilike2cheez the kit from ingals corrects To +3 degrees so ur problem should be easily fixed with the kit

MaCe

ekimpay

got my alignment checked. the washers seem to work. here are the readings for the camber ...

REAR:
Minimum = - 1.7
Nominal = - 1.2
Maximum = - 0.7

LT: Before = - 2.0 After = - 0.9
RT: Before = - 1.9 After = - 1.2


FRONT:
Minimum = - 0.88
Nominal = +0.12
Maximum = +1.12

LT: Before = - 1.9 After = - 0.6
RT: Before = - 1.8 After = - 1.0 (needs to be adjusted)

i hope this helps. btw, the toe needs to be adjusted.

MaCe

looks like the rears worked ... but they didnt correct much how many washers did u use? any lower of a drop and they might not work

MaCe

ekimpay

MaCe: i put 3 washers per bolt. in another thread (19" Axis NE-O) i posted some pics of my drop (my guess is i'm dropped about 2.5").

ilike2cheez: i looked at the specialty products but i could not remember if it has markings like the ingalls. i bought ingalls because of the price ($55 ea).

ilike2cheez

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ekimpay,
where did u get them for $55 dollars each? $110 is a good deal for ingalls. I want some at that price. Show me.

some1

Check out groupbuycenter.com They have them for $110

ekimpay

got the Ingalls at Dynamic Autosports 949.457.1234 (a local shop here in Southern California) .

CL SLeePeR

hey how much u dropped? .. i have the same ingalls setup as u do let me know how it goes and if those washers are enough .. there is a rear control arm that can also be bought if the washers dont work but its mad loot .. good luck

MaCe

Mace: Sup with the rear control arm u were talking bout? How much, & where can i find them? How much camber does it correct?

moforose3.0

If anyone needs a full camber kit, I have one for sale. Its made by sprint and I paid $225 for it without shipping. Make me an offer.

ekimpay

alignment caution ... when adjusting the ingalls, watch out for the control arm hitting the fender liner.

i have to settle for slightly negative camber (within specs). btw, do our cars handle better with a little negative camber in the front?

indopinoy

thats what i was wondering..i tried 2wice to install the same kit, but the inner fender kept landing on the arm. i went to a shop today about it..i was about to pay them to let them do it..but now im having second thoughts. (more like .5th n 6th thoughts...)

and i feel stupid bc i just bought the rear camber kit too...man... im having too many car problems/issues.

ekimpay

indopinoy: you may have to consider shaving the liner (if it is not too much). unless you can find a camber kit with the control arm (hopefully it is shorter).