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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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6spd in 3.0 on the track

what do you guys think the cl 3.0 would do on the track stock with a type-s 6spd tranny??
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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not as well at all!
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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in the words of fast and the furious "may-be you can push it to the finish line, or may be tow it." the day you do a successful 3.2 tranny swap into your j30. . . i'll give you props. . . but unless you have like 10,000 dollars laying around so you can do the fabrication, it will not be done.

putting a manual into a j30= waste of money, waste of time.

getting a h22= way to go.

until the honda "makes" a j30 in manual, it's not really wise to do that swap. what happens if your tranny goes out? what, are you going to spend another 10,000 to get another one? c'mon man, just give it up. it's expensive and for all that money you could be going alot faster in a h22
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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true.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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I disagree, if you've got the money, i think that it may be worthwhile.

Correct me if I am wrong but you are only swapping in the transmission right?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:00 AM
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It can be done for between 5-6k. Then put a little money into the engine and you'll put that h22 to shame.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:13 AM
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i'm gonna go with moforose3.0 on this one. I think it would be worth the time and money.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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correct guys i am only planning on doing the tranny, doing the whole swap is to costly!
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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o yea and teamblurry, whos pulling off the 13's on the track?? fastvtecl and soon dustbuster!!! havent heard much about any h22 cl's at the track!
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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Honda does make a j30 in manual...'03 accord 6spd, j30a4
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by bryanz3.0cl
Honda does make a j30 in manual...'03 accord 6spd, j30a4


thats true, its the same tranny configuration as the 03' cl-s
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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just watch. . . when i got my turbo in, i'll be running 13's or high 12's and i'm a f22. how much more can a h22 do?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by TeamBlurryCL
just watch. . . when i got my turbo in, i'll be running 13's or high 12's and i'm a f22. how much more can a h22 do?


Is your f22 built? Unless it is I really dont see you running high 12's- maybe high 13's
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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with what turbo kit and what psi do you plan on running 12's??? you might get there with 15+ psi but your block wont last too long. what turbo are you planning to use?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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so what do you guyz think would the stock track times improve with the 6spd or wut?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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i can lower my compression my running a RIdeal head gastket so i can run 13psi. i bought the set up off some guy with a accord f23, and he was running 12's on slicks and race fuel. i'm copying his former setup.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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I'd say low 15's w/ stock car and a 6 speed swap
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by clracer97
so what do you guyz think would the stock track times improve with the 6spd or wut?

Yes, it would cut down on drivetrain loss. I would say maybe another 10-15 hp to the wheels depending on how efficient the tranny is.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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how is the accord 3.2 tranny going to fit into the 3.0. the whole engine is backwards because it's i-vtec. ( that means the intake manifold is in the front.) that would be like customing a RSX type-S k20 tranny to an integra b18. have you seen any integras with that swap? so maybe thay can have a 6th gear? not really. . . no.
i give much props to the 3.2 DOHC 6 gear close ratio accord. but frankly the j30 has to go. and 5 grand for the swap? may-be just the tranny, but not the fabrication. you can just find an 03 tranny in the junk yard, you'll have to buy it as a new part from honda. i'll believe it when i see it. in stead of sitting here just talking about it, how about someone go do the swap. You know why no one is doing the swap? Because we belong to acura-cl.com, if we had money, we would belong to nsxprime.com. we bought our cars because they where under 20,000 and it looked nice. We didn’t buy this car meaning to go fast or break records. were just trying to make use of what we have.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by TeamBlurryCL
how is the accord 3.2 tranny going to fit into the 3.0. the whole engine is backwards because it's i-vtec. ( that means the intake manifold is in the front.) that would be like customing a RSX type-S k20 tranny to an integra b18. have you seen any integras with that swap? so maybe thay can have a 6th gear? not really. . . no.
i give much props to the 3.2 DOHC 6 gear close ratio accord. but frankly the j30 has to go. and 5 grand for the swap? may-be just the tranny, but not the fabrication. you can just find an 03 tranny in the junk yard, you'll have to buy it as a new part from honda. i'll believe it when i see it. in stead of sitting here just talking about it, how about someone go do the swap. You know why no one is doing the swap? Because we belong to acura-cl.com, if we had money, we would belong to nsxprime.com. we bought our cars because they where under 20,000 and it looked nice. We didn’t buy this car meaning to go fast or break records. were just trying to make use of what we have.


Where are you getting your information at? Do a little research before you start babbling stupid shit that you dont know about. The 4 cyclinder 160 hp accord has the i-vtec, not the v-6. The swap that none of us can afford (even though alot of us are well capable of this) has already been done by hoffines and is being done on a few others right now. He said it was done for $5000, not $10k like you keep insuating. And Ill believe the 12 second time slip when you post it, good luck with that.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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where do you get this information from, no offense but you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to 3.0/3.2 motors. the 3.2 engine is not backwards and the intake manifold is in the same place ours is, i-vtec is dohc motors only...ours are sohc, the accord is a sohc j30a4 and is mounted the exact same way/location our motors are mounted.

anyway, with i/h/e and 6spd our cars would def. be damn close, if not in the 14's. but all i care about is having a tranny to hold more power. ive been researching it as well and waiting for a response from an av6 guy who bought his tranny at a junkyard and is waiting to install it.

also the tranny he got was $800...from start to finish...all the parts needed, custom fitting it, labor, etc. should even be less than $5k.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 05:37 PM
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and take a few K off of that price if you do the work yourself.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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one last thing...no offense to casper, rmstoico,veilside, or teamblurry who have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on show mods...but why are people so quick to say spending that kind of money on mods to go fast is a waste (or go buy a faster car or our cars are not meant to be fast) but spending that kind of money of show parts is well worth it? spend the money on what you like and what you want...im done with this subject.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 03:13 PM
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thanks to all the 3.0 people for havin my back on this question! it seems like the 4-bangers around here dont really like our motors too much!
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Team blurrycl- i hate to say it, but even with the f-max kit, your car will be luck to break 14. With slicks you probably could tho. Unless you get internals and some more shit, but your dreaming when you say 12's buddy.

Our cars are way to heavy, maybe f-max kit on high boost, built, 75 shot, and slicks, fully stripped, then just maybe high 12's.

Maybe d98 could hit 12's with his h22 turbo, but who knows!

Moforose3.0- have you seen hoffines swap? No, i forgot no one has! Except his second screenname that he calls his friend.
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Old Jun 26, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Team blurrycl- i hate to say it, but even with the f-max kit, your car will be luck to break 14. With slicks you probably could tho. Unless you get internals and some more shit, but your dreaming when you say 12's buddy.

Our cars are way to heavy, maybe f-max kit on high boost, built, 75 shot, and slicks, fully stripped, then just maybe high 12's.

Maybe d98 could hit 12's with his h22 turbo, but who knows!

Moforose3.0- have you seen hoffines swap? No, i forgot no one has! Except his second screenname that he calls his friend.


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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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Team blurrycl- i hate to say it, but even with the f-max kit, your car will be luck to break 14. With slicks you probably could tho. Unless you get internals and some more shit, but your dreaming when you say 12's buddy.

Our cars are way to heavy, maybe f-max kit on high boost, built, 75 shot, and slicks, fully stripped, then just maybe high 12's.

Maybe d98 could hit 12's with his h22 turbo, but who knows!

Moforose3.0- have you seen hoffines swap? No, i forgot no one has! Except his second screenname that he calls his friend.
What are you talking about ? Niedejb dynoed around 263 whp with his FMAX kit on the f22 engine, without building it up. Now that is more whp than a cls6 with i/h/e/p and the actual car weighs 500 lbs. less and the cls6's have run low 14s to very high 13s. Fastvtecl dynoed around 255 whp with his 3.0CL and ran a 13.6. So you are telling me that a car that weighs a few hundred pounds less and has a few extra ponies will run high 14s Think before you speak bro, cause you sound foolish.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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d98cl's car is def. capable of mid/low 12's if hes running 15+ psi on a h22. and niedejb's cl is probably running mid 13's if hed ever take the car to a damn track.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by bryanz3.0cl
d98cl's car is def. capable of mid/low 12's if hes running 15+ psi on a h22. and niedejb's cl is probably running mid 13's if hed ever take the car to a damn track.


By the way, where is niedejb?? He seems to have gone AWOL
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by bryanz3.0cl
d98cl's car is def. capable of mid/low 12's if hes running 15+ psi on a h22. and niedejb's cl is probably running mid 13's if hed ever take the car to a damn track.

Low 12's? To do that he better have some sticky ass tires and a great suspension.
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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the first j30a1 6spd... http://v6performance.net/forums/show...0&pagenumber=4
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