BC.. did it work for you?

 

What's that? The O-ring/whine or the "flush"?

Not sure about the O-ring 100% for sure yet. Hasn't been cold enough. BUT there was clearly less air. With the black o-ring I had a very little bit of "foam" in the resevoir. After - with the orange o-ring there was ZERO foam.


The "flush" seemed to work fine too. Kind of like an ATF drain and refill. Suck out as much as possible; start up and work the wheel a few times; suck that out; partial refill with (cheaper) Honda fluid; repeat. Fill with Amsoil PS fluid; crank the wheel back and forth several times; top off the resevoir.

At the end, what's in there now is clearly MUCH cleaner than what I took out at the beginning.

Alls well that ends well, I guess.

 

Thanks for the tip, sadly if i used anything from the kitchen my wife would have my head on a pike! But i get the general idea, I'll look for non-kitchen tools to be safe.

 

Dood..... you just gotta be sneaky like me.

 

Just called my Honda dealership and this ring costs$3.xx !!! wtf? serious.

How much are they charging everywhere else??

/rant

 

You should be able to buy it for less than $1. Call around.. or acuraoemparts.

 

$3.79. just bought it because i need it.. sigh..

 

Sorry bro.

 

Meh. It's 4 bucks; I would've bougt it too. They jacked you, but it's a couple of bucks, so don't sweat it.

I think our Honda dealer charged me $1.79 or something like that.

 

^^ YES. Im pretty happy that it fixed the noise! The noise is now gone! I noticed that my PS fluid dropped a bit. The fluid sits below "Lower Level".

Should I fill it back up in between Lower Level and Higher Level?

 

Yes. You might have a short drive and recheck it. If it's still low, definetly add some fluid.

 

^^ Just drove around in the car. Before the drive, I actually checked my PS fluid while the car was running and I saw bubbles inside. Is this normal?

Just drove and still low. Guess I will be going back to the dealership..

 

^^^ after the oring fix, you should not get bubbles....

bubbles basically mean there is a air leak where they shudnt be one....

This can be caused due to Orings/leaks/etc or very low fluid levels....I suggest adding some more fluid asap....

 

Part number for Power Steering Fluid: 08206-9002

Shouldn't you lube the O-ring before putting it on?

 

Yep. Just rub a light coating of clean PS fluid on it.

 

Good video here..

 

http://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-power-steering-fluid

 

Post #279.

 

You lose some fluid when you remove the hose to get at the ring. When done with the swap, open reservoir and refill to normal level. Turn on car, and cut wheel from one side to the other a few times to circulate the fluid. This is how you bleed a p/s system.

 

Yes; it's still purging air that got into the system. Drive the car for another couple of days, then check the fluid and level.

 

i experienced this problem today... i will take a look

 

bump..

 

Hello Acura TL Owners,

I joined today and got my question answered regarding the power steering problem. Parallel parking is a nightmare. I took my car to the dealer where I purchased my 2005 TL Acura to find out why does my car whine. I was told it was because of the cold weather. Well lately, it has not been cold and I still here wheezing and whining. I am not a mechanic and I feeling the dealing is going to charge me an arm and a let to fix the problem.

What do you recommend if I go to the dealer to get this problem fixed now that I know that it may be the "O-ring" or the PS pump.

Thank you

 

Do it yourself...honestly, it's 10 minutes of your time and $3. It SHOULD fix the problem for you.

J.

 

It's 10 minutes with the right tools. If you don't have a small 10mm wrench or socket to get at the bolt it is MUCH more than 10 minutes.

Don't ask me how I know.



As far as Kallee2012's "How do I know it's the O-Ring" question: Check the posted video. Run the car, turning the wheel lock-to-lock a few times (park it on a couple pieces of cardboard to make this easier). Turn the car off and look inside the PS Fluid reservoir. If the o-ring is bad, there will be some foaming in the fluid. There should be NONE. If you have any at all, you're getting air in the system and that will cause noise.

Also, there is a Power Steering hose recall for your car. If that has not been done, get it done. Replacement of the O-ring is part of the recall repair.

 

^^^good call.

Yeah, I guess I sometimes take for granted that for the most part, I DO have the right tools. I tried with a small socket and couldn't get the ratchet in...to me, it was only accessible with a craftsman 10MM wrench.

And this definitely goes wrong on all of em...a friend of mine stopped by with an 07 TL...complained of the same noise. I had recently rebuilt my ps pump (kinda) and had all the old o-rings laying around, including this orange one that I had already changed out once before about a year ago (so needless to say it was still good). With a slight buzz and the wrench I was able to swap it in and out for him in 10 minutes. Problem solved.

J.

 

Yep.. having the right tool is important. That's why if you see an odd looking tool, add it to the collection. At some point, it'll find it's usefulness.

 

You can never have enough tools.

 

^^^Totally agree...

 

Sooo, here in Toronto. Downtown Acura quoted me $199+ tax for "parts" and "labour". LOL

I feel really bad for the common person who wouldn't be comfortable doing something like this themselves.

 

Seriously...I would too.

 

Why would anyone need to pay for this?

Nearly every 3G Acura built (a few TL-S's and late '08's excluded) is subject to the Power Steering Hose Safety Recall. The replacement of this o-ring with the new orange o-ring is a part of that Recall.


If the Recall has not been done, get it done and make sure they replace the o-ring.

If the Recall has been done, but done improperly with use/re-use of the black o-ring, take it back and make them fix it properly. If they do not, file a complaint with Acura Corporate and the National Highway Transportation Safety Admninstration (NHTSA).


The Orange O-ring was an availble fix for PS whine on 4/2/2009; the PS Hose Recall, which includes that O-Ring replacement, was issued 3/20/2009. In other words, the Orange O-ring has been the available part for virtually the entire life of the Recall (all except ~13 days or so).

You can reference the Recall and TSB via the link below. Be sure to follow the access instructions at the top of the post before opening the TSB's (08-016 & 07-060).

TSB Page Link: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-tl-technical-service-bulletins-tsbs-3g-garage-j-016-a-613659/

 

My car had this recall done and this o-ring was not changed out. I know because I had to replace mine a rear or two later. You will find it's very VERY common that they skip that step. I wouldn't trust them whatsoever.

 

I did this on my car last night, and it already had the orange o-ring... but I replaced it anyway and fixed my problem... guess it was worn out or something

 

I actually had the recall done too and they did the orange ring...the reason, I changed it again was because i wasn't sure they did...and I misdiagnosed a failing tensioner bearing in hopes of it being an easy fix.

 

Replaced mine last year and noise went away, noise is back again. Just came back from honda with my new $1.30 o-ring, about to go fix it again.

 

I just fixed this on my car last night. The part was .87 cents from dealer. Took about 10 minutes. Sure enough the dealer who did my recall never replaced the O Ring like the recall stated. Hence why the TSB was issued. Replaced the old brittle black O Ring with the new red one. Car runs perfect.

 

Found this thread last Wednesday after we got a bit of a cold spell in FL and mine started whining like crazy. Went to Honda this weekend and got the ring for $.72 with tax and got it replaced. (believe what everyone else says, that little 10mm bolt is a nightmare to get at) Took me about 15 minutes and when I started it up Sunday morning, the whine was completely gone. I really wasn't thinking something that simple could solve what I perceived as a big problem. Thanks everyone for supporting this forum!

 

I know this is an old thread but anyone know if you need to replace both o rings, I replaced the inlet o ring yesterday let the car sit for 4 hrs got in the temp read cold and no whine, so I thought my problem was fixed but this morning when I go to start my car up the whine returned! but goes away right after warm up!.......any other tips before I give in and replace the pump????

Thanks guys!

 

^^^ did you flush out your fluid ? is your fluid low ?