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Old 10-24-2009, 01:33 AM
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meh, if the client is happy who cares.

sure the photographer has a great and respectable job, but i have seen plenty of mediocre photos from people like that.

ive seen plenty of poor/whatever photos from getty, AP, sports illustrated. etc etc.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
That image is off, seems dark (underexposed). I'd like to see more that was taken at this session. I would have split reversed the girls both him and the little in white together, I don't like.
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srika, forgot to ask you.

was that you that sent me a message on AIM?

if so didnt even know you had my aim screen name...
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^^ yeah it was me lol yeah Ive had it for a few years...

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so no trade
would you seriously entertain a trade?
Old 10-24-2009, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
^^ yeah it was me lol yeah Ive had it for a few years...
would you seriously entertain a trade?
yea I wouldn't mind trading, only cause it would be easier to sell a 5D classic than the 1D mark II n

I've seen people selling them for as low as 1300 and no bites. One guy sold it at 1100
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how much are 5D's going for?
Old 10-24-2009, 04:36 PM
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that's crazy, the 5 came out 2 weeks after the IIn! what I mean is, both are pretty much the same age.
Old 10-24-2009, 04:48 PM
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But the 2n, is two models old, the 5D held it's value well into late last year. Before the 5D2 it was selling for $1600 or so. Hell people are dumping their 1D3's for $2200-$2500 now. It's just two years old.
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A 5D goes for 1300-1400
Old 10-24-2009, 06:56 PM
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Seen them lower, seen the 1D2n higher.
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Old 10-25-2009, 12:11 PM
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What I should have wrote, it's what the person is willing to pay for the conditon of the camera.
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^^ yeah I was gonna write something like that too I think that's the biggest factor -
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someone just posted this in the night club photo thread at POTN... ok so maybe 5D ain't too shabby compared to mkIIn..

Originally Posted by itsafastworld85
However, my 1D is old technology (heck the 5D is by these standards now) but I was very impressed with the noise even pushing it to 3200. Something my mkIIn would really be screaming death over.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...241009-168.jpg
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well you are talking about 12mp full frame sensor compared to a 8mp 1.3x crop sensor.
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yeah - guess that's why it made such a buzz when it came out.
Old 10-26-2009, 11:10 AM
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Interesting, several models of Canon DSLRs aren't recognized by 64-bit Windows 7 for direct downloading from the Camera. I always assumed that the cameras acted as a generic USB mass storage device when plugged into the computer. If so, I wonder what the issue is with 64-bit?

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/con...=7-10044-10336
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Haven't plugged in my camera via USB in ages
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Haven't plugged in my camera via USB in ages
Old 10-26-2009, 01:01 PM
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Hey - anyone here happen to have the combination of CS3 and a XSi?

After some mishap with CS4, and a reformat of my HDD to accomodate Windows 7 - I am back to using CS3

However, I have been unable to get CS3 to recognize the RAW format used by the XSi. I have a hard time believing there is nothing I can do, I just think I am looking in the wrong spots for a solution. Anyone want to point me in the right direction?
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Yeah, I'm also a card reader person and never plug in my cameras directly. I just find it odd that some cameras would be recognized by 64-bit Win 7 while others wouldn't. You have to admit, it would suck if your card reader died while on the road and your laptop gave a big fat bupkus when you plugged your camera in directly to get the files off.
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Originally Posted by GLowrdr
Hey - anyone here happen to have the combination of CS3 and a XSi?

After some mishap with CS4, and a reformat of my HDD to accomodate Windows 7 - I am back to using CS3

However, I have been unable to get CS3 to recognize the RAW format used by the XSi. I have a hard time believing there is nothing I can do, I just think I am looking in the wrong spots for a solution. Anyone want to point me in the right direction?
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/cameraraw.html

According to this page, XSi support was only added with Camera Raw 5.x which is CS4/LR2 only. You could get at the files but it would require an additional step. You'd have to install and use the free DNG converter to convert the XSi RAWs to DNG, and then work with the DNG files using CS3/ACR4.
Old 10-26-2009, 02:04 PM
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Kind of sux IMO that if you get a new camera you have to get a newer version of Photoshop to natively open the RAWs

I can understand cutting off support for a really old version of PS, but CS3 is what 2-3 years old?
Old 10-26-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Kind of sux IMO that if you get a new camera you have to get a newer version of Photoshop to natively open the RAWs

I can understand cutting off support for a really old version of PS, but CS3 is what 2-3 years old?
Why should a third party software company that you choose to use, support a product that isn't in it's currently cycle? You pay 1k to 8k for the camera, if you can't afford the software you choose to use, then maybe...
Old 10-26-2009, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Why should a third party software company that you choose to use, support a product that isn't in it's currently cycle? You pay 1k to 8k for the camera, if you can't afford the software you choose to use, then maybe...
Well look at all other software companies they still provide support for older generations of software up to a point.

IMO I was perfectly fine with CS2.

I feel it's just a way for them to force customers to upgrade to a newer version.

If they really wanted maybe charge a smaller fee to upgrade an older version to support newer cameras.
Old 10-26-2009, 02:35 PM
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Again I say choose, hell you get software from Canon free to use, that's free, but almost no one uses it.
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Well for maybe what I use Photoshop for I don't need whatever new features they add to a newer version.

in my trial version of CS4 I'm doing the same stuff as I did in CS2.

and I choose to use windows when I could use Linux for free yet M$ still provides support for winXP
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I guess I'm just a cheap ass.
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
Well for maybe what I use Photoshop for I don't need whatever new features they add to a newer version.

in my trial version of CS4 I'm doing the same stuff as I did in CS2.

and I choose to use windows when I could use Linux for free yet M$ still provides support for winXP
If you're not really using CS4 then maybe all you need is Elements, maybe you bought the wrong software and paid more than you really needed.
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I didn't buy CS4. Downloaded the trial version from adobe.

But what is elements? Is it just a stripped down version of PS or a completely different program?
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
I didn't buy CS4. Downloaded the trial version from adobe.

But what is elements? Is it just a stripped down version of PS or a completely different program?
It's a leaning verison of PS, cost about $80 and has a $20 rebate. Download it and see if it's all you need.
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Thanks, I'll take a look when I get home.
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I can't stand the Canon DPP software. It's buggy and slow as hell. On the mac, it constantly crashes. On the PC, it just sucks.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
Yeah, I'm also a card reader person and never plug in my cameras directly. I just find it odd that some cameras would be recognized by 64-bit Win 7 while others wouldn't. You have to admit, it would suck if your card reader died while on the road and your laptop gave a big fat bupkus when you plugged your camera in directly to get the files off.
yeah I would have to agree - maybe they'll add support / fix it later, or something.
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I can't stand the Canon DPP software. It's buggy and slow as hell. On the mac, it constantly crashes. On the PC, it just sucks.
I tried using it once, it felt so backwards and non-intuitive that I uninstalled immediately and never looked back.
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The card reader thing is one reason I like the fact the xsi uses SDHC - I have two Sandisk Ultra II Plus, which has a built-in USB interface. I just bend it and shove the USB part into the laptop's USB port! No cables, dongles or anything.
If a 60D ever comes out, I hope they switch to SD from CF!

Also, anyone see this?
Adobe has released a beta version of its Photoshop Lightroom 3 workflow and image editing software. Available immediately for free download from Adobe Labs, the new version includes features such as 'intuitive' importing, improved noise reduction, enhanced slideshows and direct online publishing options (such as Flickr).
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in my trial version of CS4 I'm doing the same stuff as I did in CS2.
Which is exactly why I'm still running CS2.

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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Why should a third party software company that you choose to use, support a product that isn't in it's currently cycle? You pay 1k to 8k for the camera, if you can't afford the software you choose to use, then maybe...
I agree with you to a point, (hell, I work for a software company and sometimes
I wish we didn't support some products as long as we do).

But Camera RAW is practically a plugin (or at least it was in CS2).
I can understand them dropping support for CS2, but my gut feeling is they had to have code to explicitly disallow Camera raw from working for previous versions. That's just cheesy.

On the flip side, however, you can convert pics to DNG and they still work with prior versions of RAW. It's about time camera makers quit using proprietary RAW formats anyway. It's not like they are making money off their own processing software - what's the point? Isn't DNG a free to use format?

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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko

On the flip side, however, you can convert pics to DNG and they still work with prior versions of RAW. It's about time camera makers quit using proprietary RAW formats anyway. It's not like they are making money off their own processing software - what's the point? Isn't DNG a free to use format?

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We have discuss this here, it protect their secrets, how they do what they do to get you the image you require from using their camera. What they have hidden gets rid of banding, noise, hot shots, whatever.
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