sy272004

well was time to do full detail again and i wanted to wetsand it to get it to mirror like condition, factory orange peel ****s. paint readings were in 300 so plenty of coating to work with. need to pick up 3000 grits, probably will make it easier to do get mirror like finish. here is results so far
products i used

2500 grit sand paper
Meguiar's M105 with purple wool pad
Menzerna 203 with orange pad
Menzerna 85rd with black pad
Black fire wetdiamond on blue pad
Wolfgange fuzion wax

process:
prepped panels (only what im working on couse others have wax on them). wetsanded with 2500 grit, used M105 to get rid of sanding marks,(checked results, pretty satisfied but was not able to get all out couse some defects were too deep) polished with 203 and then with 85rd. paint cleansed and sealed with black fire wet diamond sealant.

defects (etching, scratches)



before/after








did little test panel on rear quarter panel, huge difference, this is when i decided to do whole car


before wetsanding



after



50/50



Did passenger fender, turned out ok, not as good as i wanted, most of orange peel is gone but not all of it. i wish my whole front end to get resrpray at some point,
wetsanded with 2500 grit, then 3000 grit, meguiar's M105 on purple wool pad, menzerna 203 and orange pad, menzerna 85 and black pad, sealed with 2 layers of jetseal and waxed with wolfgang fuzion wax, forgot to do measurement on clear, might have went through clear coat on body line but not sure if i did or not, i think car was resprayed couse where i think i did go through still reads in 90s, this is way too high to be primer and black pearl and i didnt get any paint transfer so i think its second layer of clear on the car and its reading in 300 so go figure

when i did hood today i took measurements before and after, after wetsanding it 3 times (not 3 rubs back an d forth) and polishing with wool pad and 105, did touch ups and had to wetsand 3 times on same area so i did a lot of sanding. after first wetsanding part i took off about 2 microns of paint i took off 8 microns of clear














before

after


50/50 with door. definitely a difference between two panels





friday i did my rear quarter panel, turned out pretty good. again not to point i initially wanted to but looks good anyway
on this panel i took off close to 20 microns according to paint gauge so right now its around 300 somewhere
here are before and after pics










unsanded door

sanded quarter panel

rlerman

Sweet!

ionojimbo

amazing job!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

I've often wondered about wetsanding the car to get rid of peel...
Nicely done. Thank you for taking the time!

Jesstzn

Was that with a PC or rotary?

sy272004

all PC. still cant get use to rotary, not as comfortable to use and leaves buffer trails

Aman

Damn, was your entire car repainted? Readings sound very thick for OEM, and my car doesn't have nearly as much orange peel.

At any rate, beautiful job, looks much better

1StGenCL

That looks amazing and that peel is terrible. Were you at all scared sanding your paint down? I mean, I know you know it will be ok but it still looks scary.

sy272004

i have feeling it was repainted, at least hood looks like it, but if it was they did damn good job doing it.

white TL that we did had readings in 300 as well. so i dont know. i measured white 02 accord and readings were in 100. thats what i thought oem thickness is. ill try to find similar accord to measure paint


wasnt scared. i had all tools to know what to do and what not to do so its just pita to do but results look good. but paint is so soft, i can see scratches on it already from first proper wash

PortlandRL

Wow!!! Looks great.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Nice.

And that orange peel is horrible

princelybug

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97BlackAckCL

iTrader: (6)

Wow, I don't think I'd have the patience and control to wetsand my whole car with a PC without f'ing something up. Great work

Marc08EX

It's amazing how much clarity you get from wetsanding the paint... Your car now has a show car finish. Great job!

Aman

Yeah, I thought most OEM paints were ~100-120ish microns thick.

I have an 03, some orange peel but not much compared to yours. Maybe about half of it.

It's all irrelevant now though, your car looks great.

KaMLuNg

iTrader: (5)

my god that is an amazing transformation... i can't believe there is that much orange peel...

SweetJazz

The results look really good. However, I'd never risk wetsanding OEM paint. I hate the OEM orange peel but after I polish out my paint it is not that bad. Note that your paint gauge is giving you a total paint thickness not a clearcoat thickness.

civicdrivr

iTrader: (9)

Im still amazed by this pic:

jstahnke10

iTrader: (1)

Wow, looks awesome. I'd be afraid to do that to my car, but confidence makes the difference!

Roger555

iTrader: (3)

I want to wet sand my hood I have quite a few water spot etchings from the previous owner that didn't come out with the M105/Orange pad. My main concern is thinning the clearcoat might speed up clearcoat failure down the road, I live in NC and the sun can be brutal over the years. Valid concern?

sy272004

depends how much clear you have on there, if you just want to get those spots out then you might take off 2-3 microns max if you do it properly. when i did my hood i took off i think 7-8 microns and i wetsanded it 3 times to fix touch up paint that i did. and im sure you can do 3000 grit on hood. but somehow find out how much clear you have in those spots couse i seen some low readings on hoods which were lower then rest of the car, SO DO THAT FIRST before atempting wetsanding

and if you seal with uv sealant then it should be fine

Roger555

iTrader: (3)

Anywhere I can rent the paint meters?

paz840

iTrader: (2)

Nice work, the difference is amazing!

sy272004

probably not, maybe find detail shop near you that actualy uses paint gauges (pretty have to find those, most of them just do it blind)

AMUA6

iTrader: (7)

Holy shit! Glad I found this!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

I almost want to stop at a paint shop have them respray the clear on my car super thick and then wetsand to achieve this.

So nice~

tangsauce

Great work. I'll say it again, anyone with the skills to wet sand their car deserves a
That said anyone wanna bet how long before we see a new thread titled - Help I fucked up my paint wet-sanding. lol.

AMUA6

iTrader: (7)

Dude let's do this project together.. as soon as I figure out how to read/where to get a paint meter I'm thinking of tackling this!

Aman

Are there any paint gauges available that can measure how much clear coat and base coat there is, individually? Thick paint is great, but for all you know there's only 2 microns of clear and 250 of base