I hate to tell you "I told you so", but it really is this easy..........

 

Another user comment on Optimum No Rinse Wash and Shine.........

Hi Patrick,

Not sure if you remember me from the detail day in February at Ernie's shop. I brought the Sonic Blue Cobra and Black '07 GT/CS. I've been pretty busy lately and hadn't had a chance to say how much I appreciated everything you

did during our detail day. I had been using the Optimum No-Rinse solution and absolutely love it. I have had NO issues with spots whatsoever. When we first met online at the end of 2006 on StangFreak.com, I mentioned that I

had nasty hard water, which left spots on my paint and windows. I tried vinegar and a few other tricks with no success.



Since that time, I have been extremely cautious around water until now. This stuff is amazing. On one wash, I was forced to use water from the hose to rinse dirt off the black car. By the time and got the car back under cover from the sun, , the water spots had already formed. I took a deep breath and started washing with the No-Rinse solution. I could feel the spots as I went over them. Incredibly, after going over it a couple of times (lightly), the spots seemed to dissolve. After drying the car, I could not see any evidence of water spots! But what I wasn't expecting is how well it works on plastic, rubber, and metal. I started using it inside the engine bay and under the cars and can't

wait to get the car on the lift! The dirt and greasy stuff just dissolves and wipes away!



This stuff is fantastic! I've told a few people about it but, would like to setup a demonstration, if you are interested. I belong to a few car clubs. One of which would be interested in learning how to care for their cars.

This is the Tri-County Mustang club. This group is in the 40+ age category and have older cars (non-clear coat).

Hope to talk to you soon,

Glenn E.

 

Patrick,

I know NRWS is awesome when it's too cold for the hose or you don't have access to that much water, but do you use this on all your details? basically if you have access to a hose and it is warm out do you still use this?

 

Damn Patrick, you should've pushed this on me when I bought all the other stuff! I do a full wash once every 1-2 weeks... then again, I sort of enjoy washing my car.

 

Left, I pretty much use it when the situation is right. Some people who neglect their vehicles leave me forced to use traditional methods. About every other detail, I use NRWS. I use it for my own vehicles when I have time to keep up with proper maintenance. But when its been a few weeks between washes, I will take it to the wand wash and hit it with hi pressure, then bring it home and NRWS it.......
NRWS has really changed my detailing/car care regimen....
JM, heres my push! The spritzer method is a ton of fun!!

 

very cool! I have a pressure washer at home, but I dont have a drive way and I have been washing my car in my garage which is fine, but always a pain to get everything out, if I could just hose off the car at the car wash and then finish up at home with NRWS that sounds like a plan.

look for my order

 

i should stop visiting the wash & wax section..........................................

 

I'm still confused what this stuff is, lol. It's a car wash soap that doesn't require rinsing? Huh?

 

Not a soap, but an emulsifier, and encapsulator. It helps break down pollutants, then bring them to the surface. Chock full of surface glossers and polymers......This thread spells it out rather well. I had one on here that I had written up but SJ's is beautiful......

 

did you watch the video?
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376335

 

Weird. So you just wipe the car down with this stuff followed by a MF towel and you're done. No hose involved. That's almost scary... lol

 

I love ONR so much due its convenience and versatility. However, I love my Gilmour foam gun too much to not use it, hehe. I think it's because of that that I enjoy traditional washes a lot more. Either way though, I always use ONR as my clay lube. It's so cost-efficient!

 

Keep in perspective, it does not replace the rational behind a traditional wash though!

 

does anyone wash the entire car and then go back and dry, or is it a wash/dry each panel like the video for most of you??

 

For me it depends on the weather. If its cool and Im in the shade, I can afford to wash the whole car in under 10 minutes, then go back and dry. If its warm and Im in the sun, well, I have to do a panel at a time, starting at the highest point, then dry right away.

 

I thought I'd give my 2 cents here. I really like NRWS, it is so versatile. I just get a MF towel, dampen it with a QD-ratio mixture of NRWS, and use it to touch up my wheels or whatever gets dirt on it. Its also great for when I'm too lazy to do a full on wash of my car.

and I do the same as what Patrick said.... I'm actually kinda slow, so even when I'm in the shade, I'll do 2 or 3 panels/windows and then dry, then move on and repeat.

 

LoL, yeah I know but I'll do whatever it takes to minimize the chances of inducing swirls on my soft paint!

 

Denzil, I know you know better!

 

First off, big thanks once again to exceldetail for the super quick shipping on my order.

I am now a thorough believer in ONR...it's really changed the way I wash and thank god it doesn't cost me 4 dollars in quarters every time I want to wash my car.

I've actually found that even if the car is pretty caked with dirt (dried rain spots after a few days, etc)....2 gallong wit 2 capfulls of onr with a grout sponge does my entire car (including rims) perfectly fine with no need to pressure rinse beforehand.

Matter of fact, since I've gotten onr, I haven't touched a water hose at all. This stuff really is a godsend. At first I was very very apprehensive because, well, I have flamenco black pearl on my well maintained 97 CL...BUT...if you douse the sponge/mit with the fluid and always keep the surface you're working on lubricated and keep wringing out after a few passes...I haven't noticed any induced marring whatsoever.

My ONLY gripe is that I ALWAYS seem to get this dry haze on the surface even after several passes with a mf towel...whether used in the shade or sunlight. Any ideas why? Kinda puzzling to me, as I'm sure I'm doing everything right, and only working a panel at a time and drying each section immediately after wash.

However, to combat this I hit each section real quick with some quick detailer and the surface and it brings back the deep luster.

Other than that, this stuff is the shit...seriously. I'm definitely gonna get the big container once this 32 ouncer runs out, most def.

 

Flip, great reply! Care to share your use/technique of the Grecian Grout Sponge? Ive been leery to introduce it here as its not widely know about.

 

I normally complete 1/2 of the car at a time.

1) Presoak using 1 gallon sprayer from Exceldetail
2) Wash using 3-4 gallons of NRWS in a 5 gallon bucket with favorite wash mit and grit guard
3) Dry paint with soft MF towel (wiping technique) or waffleweave MF (blot dry only)

I then go over the whole car with my favorite QD

 

Thanks! Nothing too special, really...I utilize the single bucket method with the Eurow tub that was included in your special. Basically ~2 gallons tap water combined with 1.5 to 2 caps full of ONR. Then leave the grout sponge to soak in it for about 10 minutes before I start working.

I really like the sponge because you have pretty much total control as to the saturation within it. 2 quick wrings and it's almost completely dry...I usually dunk the sponge in the solution, give it one good pass on each side accross the grit guard to eliminate any potential dirt particles, then give it a 'half wringing' so that there's still quite a bit of liquid on it...then work one panel. If the car is extremely dirty, I'll repeat this process quite often, constantly flipping the grout sponge from side to side with each pass. Then dry with mf towel as usual. I've experienced no discernable, newly-induced scratching/marring this way. Even with the single bucket method. The key is to keep the panel lubricated and constantly keep the grout sponge as clean as possible.

The final 'plus' I attribute to the sponge is that I can clean the entire car with it, including sideskirts and rims (of course as the last step) and since it is so pliable it can really reach those nooks and crannies in my rims (such as the rivets) that a traditional mit has a problem getting to. And after I'm done washing my car, all I have to do to clean the sponge is let it soak in a small container filled with warm soapy water, wring it out a few times and let it dry.

Simple as that...I'm never going back to traditional mits btw

 

Oh, hehe, you weren't addressing me, LoL. My bad!

I'm taking a rough guess here but that haze you're getting may be the polymers that are being left behind from the ONR. It also may have to do with the fact that you're using tap water which can affect your ONR mixture. For me I use softened water straight from my water softener but distilled water can be used as well. I'm actually looking into purchasing a CRSpotless for myself and my mobile business to keep my options open between the traditional wash and the ONR wash.

Yeah Patrick, I haven't really heard of anyone else using the grout sponge but myself.

 

Woops I put like 4 capfuls in that 1gallon mister thing Lol...

this stuff is AMAZING cleaning wheels, its the only thing I tried it on so far

and Pat, the free shag towel from my previous order wasn't in the box :tear: ...

 

OMG, Im gonna kill someone!!!