kingkong_dav

i did the unthinkable, i use a wool pad on a 7inch polisher to remove paint sealant. i can remember the day i wash, polish, wax and seal the car's paint. when it was time to wipe off the sealant it was hard to take off so i use the polisher with a wooll pad. it worked great and i didnt see any damages until night time. any light that shines on it will show a nasty ugly black paint. it look like 13 year old paint with soo much noticable scratches and deep swirls. please help me i know theres a solution to my ordeal

potmilkz

do you have a orbital or rotary buffer when you used that wool pad?

justnspace

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it has to be professionally detailed; to get rid of all the holograms

kingkong_dav

rotary.

justin it is not holograms i see, it is deeep swirls, and deep scraches i see but the strange thing is i cant see it during sunlight, only with mechanical light. ex. headlight flashlight.

do i go over everthing with a polish with the setting around 2-3.

by the way i use smartwax, smartpolish and smartsealant

Jesstzn

First off take that rotary & wool pad and donate it to somewhere. Those are for heavy correction in trained hands not for sealant removal.

Sealants don't go over wax and 95% of the quality sealants that I have used come off very easy.

You either going to have to spend $300+ to have it "properly" corrected or invest in a quality random orbital, proper pads and polishes to correct it yourself.

Either way your looking at $200 and up.

kingkong_dav

im using traderspro 7 inch polisher with adjustable speed. im using meguiars m7000 finishing pad for all my work. where did i go wrong.. when i use the wool pad to remove the leftover cake, and smear it was set at 1.5 should i go over everything with a rubbing compond or polish. im not going to a detailer.

Jesstzn

You already said where you went wrong .. a wool pad is used for paint correction with polishes not for "cake" removal ... what is the "cake"?

Soon as you put any cutting pad on dried wax/polish/sealant your abrading the surface creating the issue you have now. Dried wax/sealant has no lubrication in it and it becomes abrasive amplified by the cutting power of the pad.

Rubbing compounds and polishes are basically the same thing .. different words .. thing is there is different grades of polishes. Different grades or abrasivenesses in pads. I couldn't find info on the m7000 pad , closest was a w7000 , what color is it?

Unless your trained in the use of a rotary your going to run into these issues

kingkong_dav

it is the w9000 i checked. i use this pad with a polisher. this is when i applied the polish . i use the wool to remove at a low setting. i was desperate and night was falling so it was a quick and easy way of removing the dried wax(cake). i think i need to come back with a sponge cutting pad with a highgrade smart polish . do you think 3.5rpm is good?

Jesstzn

Sorry if I'm blunt here BUT what I think from experience doesn't seem to matter ..


You need to dump the rotary and get a PC or the equivelent and the proper pads & polishes to correct the issue ..

A rotary in the hands of the untrained no matter the pad or polish can lead to disaster.

v|nsan|ty

^ Some people just want to hear advice that they have already convinced themselves of wanting to hear. Seems the OP is very set on his rotary and wool pad ways, despite your advice and everything that can be found online.

potmilkz

rotary is for advance correction, if used unproperly you can really fuck up your paint.

like what jesstzn said.. get a PC and use some LC or microfiber pads with some proper polishes.

to me it sounds like you went way to crazy with the wool and rotary..

strip all the wax and chemicals off the paint, get the correct tool and pad and restart what you are working..

SweetJazz

The W9000 pad (Tan Color) is a finishing pad. The W7000 pad (Burgundy Pad) is a cutting pad and should be avoided at all costs on an Acura TL. Like Jesstzn stated, dump the rotary buffer and wool pad. Unless you obtain the correct tools and techniques for the job you are wasting your time.

CU2MIKE

I love my festool

BobbyC

yea dood.. i made that mistake when i first bought a rotary.
the wool seems like it would be soft on your paint but on a rotary, itll do nothing but make deep swirls.
stay away from that stuff!!

i still use a rotary but only spot correct and only with a soft foam pad and light compound.

i need to get a PC

UA6

So was it the buffer that messed up the paint or the wool pad...or both?

kingkong_dav

both

csmeance

It was a combination of things.

1. A rotary polisher in the use of a person who doesn't know how to use it can damage paint beyond repair in a matter of seconds. Hold it in 1 spot for too long an a rotary polisher can EASILY burn right through paint.

2. The OP used a HEAVY cutting pad with his rotary to remove a wax. (2 things that shouldn't be done, using a rotary and using a cutting pad to remove a wax).

3. The OP rushed the process and did it at night where he couldn't see his progress.

In the hands of amateur detailers, a Porter Cable Random Orbit (PC) is the best tool. It's nearly impossible to mess up with it and is fairly straight forward.

To the OP, the only way the damage can be fixed from the description you gave us is to use an APPROPRIATE POLISH/COMPOUND and PAD on a PC and to tackle it one panel at a time. The right polish/compound can be determined by doing test runs starting with the LEAST ABRASIVE product and then moving up to more aggressive combos AS NEEDED.

UA6

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Trying to get into the more advanced levels of detailing since I can't see myself paying $300 for someone else to do it. With that being said will a PC leave swirl marks or is it better to do it by hand?

v|nsan|ty

Yikes good luck doing it by hand. Invest in either the PC7424XP or the Griot's polisher. Get yourself some pads, you don't need every single color. Get a few yellow cutting pads, a few green polishing pads, and a black one for LSP. There is a large variety of polishes out there, you can go the M105/M205 combo or try a Menzera duo. Optimum polishes work decently well too.

csmeance

read up on the basics on using a PC and as well learn about the different types of polishes, compounds, sealants and waxes and how each works and is applied!

Aman

I tried hand-polishing on my Accord. Didn't even make a dent, and I'd say my paint was about average for an 8-year-old car.

BobbyC

I picked up a pc and I gotta say, it really is a simple tool.
You really can't mess up.

You can sit there with the. Most abrasive polish/pad and push down on it in one spot and it'll be ok.

The only way to damage your paint with a pc is to flip it over and run the plastic over your paint.

I did some minor paint correction this weekend and it was pretty easy.
I wish I had my autogeek order of stronger polishes and pads but I did just fine with a white pad and prima swirl.

Def worth the $100 bucks

potmilkz

be careful of light marring.. sometimes it may look good, but under sunlight or some LED lights, you can see the marring.