Whats up, I have a 2010 TL SH-AWD with a little over of a 1.5 inch drop. I would like to go really aggressive on my wheel set up. The wheels I am looking at are 20x11 rear and 20x9 front. with 11 offset rear and 15 in front. How what would I have to do besides tire size to make this work.

Thanks

 

Roll and pull fender. Camber. Stretch tire. Play with suspension height. Drive slow as hell anywhere you go.

 

Thanks, do you think it will throw off my AWD if I have different widths from the rear to front?

 

wow.. its such a waste of a sh-awd.. to put such a wide wheel on a such a low offset and to top it off, you will throw off your awd system because you will def have to run super stretched tires with super high camber.. pretty much half of your tire will make contact with the floor while the other half is sticking up in the air.. 20x11 +11...

you will no longer have a awd system after that.. run a squared set or dont do it at all.. its a complete waste of a sh-awd.

on the goodside.. the fronts will be ok.. i run a 9.5 +12 on a 255/35 all around for my car.

 

My thoughts exactly!

 

woooow thats aggressive. I'd hesitate a lot before pulling the trigger on that setup, your car will never handle the same, or at all lol

that being said, as long as your rolling diameter on your tires is the same in the front and back, you should be good. Not that it really matters if you're pushing that set up anyway...

 

That's gonna require some major fender work. The width will work but the offset is too low.

 

get ready to change your driving style.


SLow and Low!

if people honk at you from behind, say FUCK EM! Low is a lifestyle!

 

those wheels are too far apart in width that you wont be able to keep a good rolling diameter. 2 inch difference is alot..

 

I think he can find wheels with the same diameter, the 2" of extra width has nothing to do with diameter. It might be more challenging though, because you don't typically see two wheels with that much of a difference on the same vehicle.

 

brock,

i think your confused with diamater of a wheel and ROLLING DIAMETER.... rolling diameter has to do with your tire size.. and again let me say it again.. the 2 inch difference in width will narrow your tire selection down by alot..

your fronts can only run a 245/30 or 35 series..

rears you will stretch the shit out of them just to match up the rolling diamater of the fronts.. 255/30 i would say is the best if you want to match up with a 245/30 up in the front

 

Not trying to be a dick, but the diameter and circumference are two different things. You will never get two different tire sizes to match up exactly. There will always be a slight difference. People say diameter, but circumference will also work when measuring. The width of the tire has nothing to do with either. Unless you are talking about the extra weight of the wider tire.

 

Iam not worried about tire size at all, nor rolling fender. On my other TL I ran 20x10 in the rear and 20x8.5 in front. I get the whole awd part, that's why I am asking. the next set of wheels I found are just about the same 20x9 and 20x11 +15Offset all around. if anyone has a picture, I just want to get an idea how much off the ground the outer part going to be. Or suggest the most aggressive you have seen out there? The wheels I want do not come by 10 only 11 or 9.


I appreciate the help guys

 

what size is your setup

 

My setup is Fx9 +16 R10.5 +25 and I'm running 255/30 rear and it still has slight run on dips but haven't rolled the fender. Definitely gonna have to run a lot of camber and pull the rears at +15 on a 11" rim. It is doable just a lot of work. There's a couple members running 11's but around +40 offset.

 

thanks, u have any pics of your wheels or can you post some

 

its funny how you say they are two different things..

then you turn around and completely go the opposite way and say "well you can use diameter too"

they are one of the same. Enthusiast uses "ROLLING DIAMETER" as a term in the industry.. this is why Lift3d_ used that term.. it is known as ROLLING DIAMETER.



With has everything to do with rolling diameter, the size difference between the front will matter alot.

a 245/30 is not the same height as 275/30 or 265 or 255..
not all 30 series tires are same height.





i talk about rolling diameter of a tire..
but you somehow interpreted that as wheel diameter
a 20 inch wheel is a 20 inch wheel. so im lost what you are talking about.. again, i am talking about rolling diameter.. but you keep going back to diameter of the WHEEL which are two separate things

 

With all of those quotes I think you confused yourself. You start going back and forth in your own replies. Yes 2" of width can make a difference and it has nothing to do with diameter. I already stated above that no two tires of different sizes will have the same exact diameter. That part went over your head. Now the 2"s of width can add unsprung weight and that alone could be enough to damage the AWD system. When you have the rears trying to rotate more weight with less power then it could lead to a failure. I suspect the system might try to send more power to the rear and that would be a full time job and could lead to a failure as well.

 

brock, you already proven yourself to be worthless in information.. dont continue to dig your own grave..

the system does not send more POWER just because the wheel weights more in the back.. it is determined by 4 variables. .. that is why the sh-awd have a YAW sensor, lateral g sensor, steering angel sensor and wheel speed sensor.

 

And you don't think a heavier wider tire doesn't affect that at all?

 

You can check my build thread. It's on the first page of the photography thread.

 

rivet on a widebody fender kit

 

maybe it's just me, but does anyone actually like the look of those? They look terrible imo.

 

I like it on that crazy porsche RWB or whatever thread, but they are going for a certain style... Usually they look awful in my book. I was making a joke with my post.

 

They were cool in the beginning and I guess they're kind of cool for older cars and drift cars but I hate them for new GTR's and whatnot. I'd rather have them do body work and mold it on. More cleaner look than some nuts and bolts.

 

Will going Staggered trigger my awd?

 

As mentioned above, keep your rolling diameters the same on the front and back and you'll be fine.

 

So yea, that set up was crazy. Thanks for the help. I decided to go 20x11 rear 20x10 front. what size tire would I need to not throw off the awd?

 

to be honest if you have no experience in running aggressive wheels i wouldnt even attempt to do it.. especially on a awd system..

plus you didnt give the offsets to us.. that is probably one of the two important things we need to know.. lol

 

lol, my fault. To be honest I was pretty aggressive on my last TL. But I was not dealing with AWD. Only thing Throwing me off. the wheels I am about to buy now are.


20x10 +25 or +40
20x11 +10 +20 +28

I know +10 offset is way too much.

And yes I can drive, Ive had slammed cars for 16 years, Ive just never had to deal with awd

 

any wheels will fit if you put enough camber..

its just if you are willing to run camber.. -5 to -8 camber..

i see no point of running such a wide wheel..