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08-31-2010, 11:26 PM
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08-31-2010, 11:39 PM
#1642
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Ralph. if u can see some camber in ur tires, then u'll need a camber kit forsure. or if u want, u can leave it like that but ur tire will get inner wear faster.
if ur not gonna get a camber kit, then there isn't really any need to get alignment done right away. They can pretty much do nothing about camber, unless u have the kit.
so if ur not gonna get a camber kit, dont get alignment unless ur car doesnt drive straight.
Oh and Firestone sucks. They have never gotten a single alignment right, specially if u have a lifetime alignment, because then the mechanics will want u to keep coming back so they can keep getting paid on it, again and again.
I had that warranty on my previous car, my brother's car, and a few other friends had it. No one ever got their alignment right. It would work fine after we left the shop, but with a few days, it was back to what it was.
if ur not gonna get a camber kit, then there isn't really any need to get alignment done right away. They can pretty much do nothing about camber, unless u have the kit.
so if ur not gonna get a camber kit, dont get alignment unless ur car doesnt drive straight.
Oh and Firestone sucks. They have never gotten a single alignment right, specially if u have a lifetime alignment, because then the mechanics will want u to keep coming back so they can keep getting paid on it, again and again.
I had that warranty on my previous car, my brother's car, and a few other friends had it. No one ever got their alignment right. It would work fine after we left the shop, but with a few days, it was back to what it was.
09-01-2010, 06:50 AM
#1643
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I have new shocks and springs in my closet but all of this talking is making me nervous and want to change my mind about going lower. I just had to buy 4 new tires because my alignmeny was off in the rear and damaged my tires.
09-01-2010, 10:11 AM
#1644
When are we getting together again ? I missed this past weekend and it sounds like I didn't miss much, but I would like us to put something together that's has plenty of parking and maybe not too far west. Maybe a photo shoot too ! 
09-01-2010, 10:17 AM
#1645
Anytime you change the ride height on the car, you need to get an alignment. Lowing the car, or adjusting the height through the suspension changes the suspension geometry. The most notable problem is the Toe angle. Bad Toe alignment will eat up tires quick.
So, it is important to get an alignment no matter what. The Toe must be corrected after lowering, both front AND rear.
For a 3G TL, it is a good idea to get a camber kit for the rear. 3G's have had problems with rear alignment due to the suspension. Lowing can accelerate or increase this issue, that's why I recommend to get a good rear camber kit like Ingalls. That way the Toe AND Camber can be adjusted for the rear. A little negative camber is OK, but too much will wear tires faster than normal. Still bad camber will not wear tires like bad toe, way out of spec toe is like saying by by to your tires.
Lowering a car is no problem if you do it right the first time. I've had my 3G dropped the first week I owned it. 40K later I've had no issues. I also get non-direction tires so I can do a modified X tire rotation.
Also doing it right means having people like C&C work on your car. There is no comparison between places like C&C and Firestone, ect.
So, it is important to get an alignment no matter what. The Toe must be corrected after lowering, both front AND rear.
For a 3G TL, it is a good idea to get a camber kit for the rear. 3G's have had problems with rear alignment due to the suspension. Lowing can accelerate or increase this issue, that's why I recommend to get a good rear camber kit like Ingalls. That way the Toe AND Camber can be adjusted for the rear. A little negative camber is OK, but too much will wear tires faster than normal. Still bad camber will not wear tires like bad toe, way out of spec toe is like saying by by to your tires.
Lowering a car is no problem if you do it right the first time. I've had my 3G dropped the first week I owned it. 40K later I've had no issues. I also get non-direction tires so I can do a modified X tire rotation.
Also doing it right means having people like C&C work on your car. There is no comparison between places like C&C and Firestone, ect.
09-01-2010, 02:43 PM
#1649
Depends on how much you plan to drop it or how particular you are about the alignment settings. 1.50" or so drop, a front camber kit is not needed.
I'm dropped about 1.75" without a front camber kit, and I'm fine. My front camber is right at the factory tolerance on the negative side. I have an Ingalls camber kit on the rear set to almost match the front camber.
I'm dropped about 1.75" without a front camber kit, and I'm fine. My front camber is right at the factory tolerance on the negative side. I have an Ingalls camber kit on the rear set to almost match the front camber.
09-01-2010, 09:52 PM
#1654
West side, Westheimer / Royal Oaks area. I can take a look at it and help you. But, I can't do it Friday, I could take a look at it on Friday though. I"m still moving and I have zero stuff at my place to work on cars. On a car like that I would rather take a look at it, then make a plan. I've worked on a few NSX's but's it's been all body / paint work. Removing the shock assembly should be pretty easy. But, I don't what parts you plan to install. Honestly my place might not be a good location to do the work, I can help though.
09-01-2010, 10:24 PM
#1655
etc. Seriously though, I'll even shell out cash if required.
09-01-2010, 10:25 PM
#1656
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About meeting
[quHi i move from Orlando FL and i try to find some club ,i ahve 3rd generatio TL -05 ,Please let me know where u guys have meeting so i can go to meet everybody ,Thanks in Advace.ote=nspec_ya4;10096230]finally were getting some action here!
what day do you guys prefer?
meet monthly?
we can do something like saturday mornings, or nights.
how does Nov. 1st sound? its a saturday morning. may be meet up at around 10 or 11 may be a little bit later.
if we get 15 or more people we can also have a dyno day. get 2 pulls for 35 or 45 bucks each.[/quote]
what day do you guys prefer?
meet monthly?
we can do something like saturday mornings, or nights.
how does Nov. 1st sound? its a saturday morning. may be meet up at around 10 or 11 may be a little bit later.
if we get 15 or more people we can also have a dyno day. get 2 pulls for 35 or 45 bucks each.[/quote]
09-02-2010, 12:14 AM
#1659
We should be having one on the PZ Meet day right Nauman?
Thanks Paul,loved your car too.
Bada$$VTEC very nice drop in personal
09-02-2010, 08:44 AM
#1660
After I installed my springs, my alignment was waaaaay off, and while it was settling, I had the alignment done a few times. I always ask for the spec and sheet and go talk to the Tech. I know it's not optimal, but it's cheaper than paying full price for a full alignment. Plus I'm still on stock shocks, so new shocks will be happening soon.
I'm down for a meet once it's a little cooler.
Anybody going to Coffee and Cars this weekend?
I'm down for a meet once it's a little cooler.
Anybody going to Coffee and Cars this weekend?
09-02-2010, 09:02 AM
#1661
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After I installed my springs, my alignment was waaaaay off, and while it was settling, I had the alignment done a few times. I always ask for the spec and sheet and go talk to the Tech. I know it's not optimal, but it's cheaper than paying full price for a full alignment. Plus I'm still on stock shocks, so new shocks will be happening soon.
I'm down for a meet once it's a little cooler.
Anybody going to Coffee and Cars this weekend?
I'm down for a meet once it's a little cooler.
Anybody going to Coffee and Cars this weekend?
install h&r sport springs with a brand new set of oem shocks and I keep getting mixed responses on camber kits.
09-02-2010, 10:30 AM
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West side, Westheimer / Royal Oaks area. I can take a look at it and help you. But, I can't do it Friday, I could take a look at it on Friday though. I"m still moving and I have zero stuff at my place to work on cars. On a car like that I would rather take a look at it, then make a plan. I've worked on a few NSX's but's it's been all body / paint work. Removing the shock assembly should be pretty easy. But, I don't what parts you plan to install. Honestly my place might not be a good location to do the work, I can help though.
09-02-2010, 11:04 AM
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After I installed my springs, my alignment was waaaaay off, and while it was settling, I had the alignment done a few times. I always ask for the spec and sheet and go talk to the Tech. I know it's not optimal, but it's cheaper than paying full price for a full alignment. Plus I'm still on stock shocks, so new shocks will be happening soon.
I'm down for a meet once it's a little cooler.
Anybody going to Coffee and Cars this weekend?
I'm down for a meet once it's a little cooler.
Anybody going to Coffee and Cars this weekend?
I would like to go, perhaps we can gather up and roll up there. When is this ? and where at ?
09-02-2010, 11:22 AM
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A few of us from the nsx club will b up there were meeting up at 7. Will b in the diginal parking area across from the sushi close to the feeder. But dam want to lower my car before I go lol
09-02-2010, 11:28 AM
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That would be awesome if a few NSX and TL's would roll up there. Where is the location ?? this is at 7 am right just making sure. c'mon guys anybody want to roll up there ?
. Maybe next time
09-02-2010, 03:02 PM
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09-02-2010, 03:30 PM
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its in uptown park near the galleria. nsxs will be parked in the shaded tree area close to the feeder across from the sushi area. if ur coming get there a 7am or you will be driving around in circles
09-02-2010, 09:09 PM
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I might go to C&C with a friend and a couple of exotics.
if not, then I'll take my car. We can all roll together, but there might be no space to park out cars. Unless we get there super early.
Car and Coffee
September 4th, saturday morning at Uptown Park, we'll have to get there at about 7:30
Planet Zero Meet
Possibly Sep 19th or 26th, Saturday Night.
if not, then I'll take my car. We can all roll together, but there might be no space to park out cars. Unless we get there super early.
Car and Coffee
September 4th, saturday morning at Uptown Park, we'll have to get there at about 7:30
Planet Zero Meet
Possibly Sep 19th or 26th, Saturday Night.
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