#1 STUNNA

Some sorf of funny WHS videos.

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#1 STUNNA

This video explains how WHS does file duplication compared to RAID.

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Billiam

OK, for the target market for this product, that is indeed quite cool.

timmahh

Hmm.. question that I'm stumped on, I use a finger print reader @ home to login to my Vista Ultimate machine, when I use RDP through WHS Web I get this:




I don't see a place for me to type in my password

Billiam

^^Obvious question: What do you get when you click the Switch User button?

timmahh

........

I tried that earlier, and the RDP disconnected, so I figured it didn't work, I just tried it again.. typed my password..


thank you, i'm a tard. I guess it was just a fluke when it shut off RDP earlier when I clicked switch user

5o9

Thanks for the heads up, been waiting on the HP.

Rock2534

Does it also back up the operating system? Does it basically take an image of the pc's or only the actual user files on it? Can it be used to restore a crashed pc? It sounds like it can from what I've read on here but just want to make sure.

timmahh

It makes a copy of the entire system, if your system fails/crashes/etc, you put in the Restore CD [it comes with one], that boots the PC up and looks for the server, then it restores your last backup

You can also browse the backup and restore individual files

Rock2534

Very cool. Currently I am just backing up files to an ext drive and periodically take a ghost image and store in on the second int drive in the main pc. Only pain is I have XP home on the pc and vista premium on the laptop so I would not be able to remote desktop to them without upgrading the OS' on both of them.

timmahh

True, the upgrade from premium to ultimate ran me about $150; I heard there are ways of making it work though, I haven't tried any of them because I already upgraded my PC to Ultimate [Dreamscene ftw!]

#1 STUNNA

I just got done exchanging the hard drive in the macbook going from an 80gb to a 160gb. I used both time machine and WHS to restore both of their respective OSes and everything went pretty smoothly. I popped out the old 80gb drive using the great new tools I got today and put in the new 160gb and booted from the leopard install dvd. I chose restore from backup but I ran into a problem when choosing which backup to restore from. It seems that since I had first used the external drive as a time machine for my Hackint0sh PC and then used it as the TM for the Macbook when it did the first full backup of my Hackint0sh it kept that as the only available backup on the external drive that I could restore from. After unplugging the drive from my Hackint0sh and using it as a TM device in the macbook when it saw the macbook it didn't see it as a differenct mac than my Hackint0sh and therefore it didn't do a full backup of the macbook it just saved all the files that where different betwen the two computers which must've been many. Anyways when I tried to restore the macbook the only option to restore was the Hackint0sh OS and I wasn't gonna restore that to an original macbook. So I took out the new 160gb drive and stuck back in the old 80gb drive booted to it and then reformatted the external drive deleting the Hackint0sh TM files and set it up as a TM device again and did a full backup of the macbook. Then I went to the install HD process again and booted up to the leopard DVD, formatted the new drive and chose the macbook restore files from the TM and everything restored fine. I booted to the new 160gb HD with all the files from the old 80gb HD on it and then went and set up boot camp again since TM doesn't save boot camp partitions. I set it up with a 32gb partition and stuck in the WHS restore cd instead of the Vista or XP install cd apple asks you to insert. I rebooted to the WHS restore cd and chose the newest backup from the previous Vista install on the macbook from the list and it restored over the network to the 32gb bootcamp partition with no problems.

I'm just surprised that everything went as well as I planned it. But I did learn one thing and that is that with TM you can only restore from a full backup and not from one of the hourly or daily backups so it seems like you've got more worked planned out for you if you want to restore from a backup taken after the full backup. I also didn't see a way to manually do a full backup with TM does anyone know how? With WHS you can restore from any backup made even though it doesn't make hourly backups it does make daily.

TSXtaci

Quick question, can you remotely turn on one of the PC's if its wireless or does it have to be physically connected to the router?

timmahh

Only if the wireless card supports WOL; never tried it though - but that would mean the system would have to keep the wireless card powered at all times

5o9

This is classic microsoft!

They produce this great home networking that does not work with the home operating systems

TSXtaci

Ok, just got my trial cd in the mail. I took your recommendation and read up more on it, and it seems pretty sweet. Hopefully it'l work out for my network

timmahh

It is definately recommended for the initial backup that you go hardwire ethernet; the amount of data to push over wireless will take for-fricking-ever, I would run an ethernet cable temporarily [or move the computer] to the router/switch so it can do the full backup via ethernet; the subsequent backups will be fine over wifi because they are incrementals.. but ehh initial backup over wifi = dayzzzz!

Ashburner

I'm going to pick up the EX475 as soon as my employee discount is better.

TSXtaci

Ok so i've just installed it, but having connection issues trying to access the web. Its stating that it cant find my router, but its working because i'm connecting to it wirelessly. Has anyone else had this problem before?

#1 STUNNA

You connected the WHS with a wired connection right? What kindof router do you have, does it support UPnP (Universal Plug n Play)?

TSXtaci

yeah its connected directly to the router. I have a belkin, and I verified that UPnP was enabled on the router, but no luck yet. I'm trying to find the compatibility list on microsoft website to see if it supports my router. It should though because its fairly new

#1 STUNNA

what do you mean by connection issues trying to access the web? can you explain more?

timmahh

I recently bought a new linksys router and everytime my PS3 would go online the wireless would die.. there was a major bug w/ the code for uPnP and the firmware upgrade fixed everything - check and see if belkin has any firmware updates out there... WHS works fine on my linksys now that it's upgraded, didn't have to change anything..

TSXtaci

Ok from the Server console when you click "Settings" then "Remote Access" the first option is Web Site connectivity which is "off" by default. Once I turn it own, then under it where "Router" is the status is "not configured". When I hit "Setup" from that window, its not finding the router ip, and I cant even hit the button for "Configure Router" Verified that UPnP is on numerous times.

TSXtaci

According to the router, I have the latest version of the firmware. I was thinking about resetting the router to see if it would do anything. User accounts are created on the server, but since its not recognizing the router, then none of the other computers are able to connect to it.

#1 STUNNA

So you're connected to it wirelessly but you're computer isn't on the list under "computers and backups"? you do have to install the connector software on every PC you want backed up, have you done that? can you go to the computers and backup tab and if a PC is listed select that pc and choose backup now on the toolbar or by right clicking on the desired PC. Does that work? The inability to remote access shouldn't prevent you from backing up. Can you see your server on the network by going to network places in XP and look under workgroup or by clicking network from the start menu in VISTA. There should be at least 2 different server icons 3 if you've turned on media sharing.

timmahh

You cannot put the WHS on a wireless connection, I don't even think it will work [it's one of the big no-no's listed in guide/info for WHS]

TSXtaci

Thats understandable, but it should still recognize that the router is directly connected to it, even if the wireless is turned on/off?

timmahh

Right.. wifi on/off should not matter; I thought you had said the WHS server was connected via wifi, not ethernet

You might need to just config the router manually, maybe WHS cannot auto configure that one or something..

TSXtaci

Yeah i'll probably do that when i get home today. Hopefully it'll be up and running by this evening. It'll suck to have the eval software and not be able to get it running, lol. Thanks for ur help tho

TSXtaci

Ok finally figured it out, apparently WHS doesnt load the correct NIC drivers, so I had to download them and reinstall it. After that I was able to get it up and on the internet. Funny thing now is when I try to setup the remote access, it hangs on the part "configuring router" and basically blocks all outbound traffic. Anyone else ever had this happen to them?

#1 STUNNA

So all your other PC can't get on the internet while WHS is configuring the router?

#1 STUNNA

you can just open the ports on your router if your having problems. it should just be port 443 and port 80

TSXtaci

I manually configured those ports open already, but it just seems like when WHS tries to configure it automatically it always hangs. Now being that I configured it manually, how would I setup the remote web access, like if i was at work? Also when WHS is configuring my router, I cant get to the router config page. Once I shut down WHS then everything works fine again.

#1 STUNNA

Well if your router already configured then you shouldn't need WHS to try ton cinfigure it for you. so just move to the next section domain name and click configue and pick what DNS you want. Or is that section greyed out cause it thinks you haven't configured your router yet?

TSXtaci

YUP that section is greyed out. Thats why I'm trying to let it configure itself. I figured if u configure it manually, then u should be able to configure the DNS, but it looks like it wants to do the configuration, and theres no bypassing it. I'm checking on microsofts forums for possible solutions

#1 STUNNA

You don't have one of the last 6 routers do you?