Vista Bitch thread
Vista Bitch thread
I don't feel like riddling the other Vista threads with my madness so here's a new one.
what a POS.
I put a burned CD into a friend's Dell XPS Vista laptop which has loads of malware on it (another huge issue for a "next-generation" OS, in and of itself). In "Computer", I can't even f*cking double-click the CD to open it. It says "E:\ Application not found". What a load of sh*t. I have to open folders, and go into it manually that way. Vista = garbage.
If I do this same thing in XP and it doesn't know what program to use to open the files, guess what - IT OPENS THE CD FOLDER SO I CAN VIEW THE FILES.
what a POS.
I put a burned CD into a friend's Dell XPS Vista laptop which has loads of malware on it (another huge issue for a "next-generation" OS, in and of itself). In "Computer", I can't even f*cking double-click the CD to open it. It says "E:\ Application not found". What a load of sh*t. I have to open folders, and go into it manually that way. Vista = garbage.
If I do this same thing in XP and it doesn't know what program to use to open the files, guess what - IT OPENS THE CD FOLDER SO I CAN VIEW THE FILES.
Vista has its problems but the ones mentioned in the OP have little to nothing to do with vista.
Having a ton of viruses,mal/spyware on a computer is a result from the user not having any software protection, not having the protection turned on and likely clicking on adds and or looking at porn.
Having a ton of viruses,mal/spyware on a computer is a result from the user not having any software protection, not having the protection turned on and likely clicking on adds and or looking at porn.
SEE that's what Im talkin about!!!!

what's the problem then? why has this *NEVER* happened to me on any XP box over the past 8 years?

what's the problem then? why has this *NEVER* happened to me on any XP box over the past 8 years?
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if so, why is Vista so susceptible to malware? I've had to try removing it on other Vista machines in the past and it's worse - far worse - than any XP machine I've encountered. Vista's "security" features which stop you from doing certain things and accessing certain network resources combined with malware = almost certain inoperability.
It's either a malware issue or a pebkac issue. Does the computer in question utilize any anti virus software?
Also, "Vista" is just as susceptible to malware as XP or 98 or 2000 or any of that shit if it's unprotected and the user is clicking on adds, DLing random files, and looking at "free" porn.
Also, "Vista" is just as susceptible to malware as XP or 98 or 2000 or any of that shit if it's unprotected and the user is clicking on adds, DLing random files, and looking at "free" porn.
By visiting those sites and clicking on the links you're basically giving them the OK to DL shit your computer. YOU are the one letting it happen. (I'm not saying it always comes from pron but that's the largest offender.)
It's kind of like those people that buy a new car while knowing nothing about cars and in turn utilize little to no maintenance habbits and then complain when there is a problem.
end users = FAIL...
I manage a large user network, have XP, Vista, and the Win7 RC throughout..
have no issues on any machine (including some 50 laptops that float all over the country with sales reps) because they are maintained and the updates, virus, malware, etc software is kept up to date..
some of the managers and executives will bring in their personal computers once in a awhile because of issues, they all suffer from the same crap the OP is bitching about, because they are not maintained.. end users = FAIL.
Norton and Mcafee suck a$$.. there are far better solutions out there for less cost, that use less resources, and maintain themselves 90% of the time..
just my .02
I manage a large user network, have XP, Vista, and the Win7 RC throughout..
have no issues on any machine (including some 50 laptops that float all over the country with sales reps) because they are maintained and the updates, virus, malware, etc software is kept up to date..
some of the managers and executives will bring in their personal computers once in a awhile because of issues, they all suffer from the same crap the OP is bitching about, because they are not maintained.. end users = FAIL.
Norton and Mcafee suck a$$.. there are far better solutions out there for less cost, that use less resources, and maintain themselves 90% of the time..
just my .02
Last edited by Mr. Incredible; Jul 9, 2009 at 03:35 PM.
Every time I insert a CD into my Vista computers, it comes up with a prompt on whether to play the disk (with a list of programs to choose) or run program, or open explorer to view contents.
But aside from that, in "computer" you can just right click a DVD and select "Open." This opens a new file explorer window. Or you could select "Explore." That opens the file explorer in the same window. Double click will by default try and run any autoplay stuff.
I'm "tech support" for my family. Ever since they started getting Vista computers, spyware related issues have dropped.
Vista is a resource hog because it has an aggressive pre-fetch. It will try and load programs it thinks you will use into memory, instead of keeping RAM empty. The solution is to have at least 3 GB of ram on a Vista system. Or you could plug in a USB drive and activate ReadyBoost. It really does make a difference on a Vista system with less than 1 GB.
But aside from that, in "computer" you can just right click a DVD and select "Open." This opens a new file explorer window. Or you could select "Explore." That opens the file explorer in the same window. Double click will by default try and run any autoplay stuff.
I'm "tech support" for my family. Ever since they started getting Vista computers, spyware related issues have dropped.
Vista is a resource hog because it has an aggressive pre-fetch. It will try and load programs it thinks you will use into memory, instead of keeping RAM empty. The solution is to have at least 3 GB of ram on a Vista system. Or you could plug in a USB drive and activate ReadyBoost. It really does make a difference on a Vista system with less than 1 GB.
I read on the Engineering Windows 7 blog about the exploits being done using Autorun and how W7 tries to fix that. Basically, there's no autorun from untrustworthy media: USB, CDR, DVDR, but if it's a commerical disc, Autorun is enabled.
I would not doubt you have some malware app that is trying to insert itself in the autorun process. It could be blocked by AV, leading to "Not Accessible", or maybe it was deleted.
My issue with Vista is that every time I try installing 3rd party burning software, it messes with the ASPI filters and makes either CDs work and DVDs don't, or vice versa. I think that's an issue with the software people, though.
I would not doubt you have some malware app that is trying to insert itself in the autorun process. It could be blocked by AV, leading to "Not Accessible", or maybe it was deleted.
My issue with Vista is that every time I try installing 3rd party burning software, it messes with the ASPI filters and makes either CDs work and DVDs don't, or vice versa. I think that's an issue with the software people, though.
so I told him to call Dell and ask them to help him reformat the computer. If it had a real OS such as XP it wouldn't have got so easily corrupted with UNFIXABLE malware like this. At least on XP, you can fix it rather easily.
Srika.. As an IT person I must take the side of Vista. The stuff you are running into occurs on any of the Windows operating systems when some shitfuck malware gets in there.. for example, when someone says omg i went to ebuauy.com and it said I have the virus so I installed FREE ANTIVIRUS 2010!
That shit fucks EVERYTHING up. It inserts itself into the registry w/ the winlogon call; so it's a total bitch to get out. It fucks up all of the file type associations and shell/explorer actions.
It's a lot of fun when you hit task manager and it's disabled by the administrator[virus].
Or when you goto start -> run -> explorer.exe and get %1- somefuckingasserror
Or when you double click my computer and get some fatal explorer error
Frustrating as shit, but i've never had issues w/ Vista... and i'm running Win7 now.. no issues there.
Make sure he never turns User Account Control off.. it sounds like he'll fuxor it up again.
It's easier to get the "FREE" antivirus on XP than it is on Vista I think; assuming the security isn't turned down to "fuckmeup" level.
Also, Norton is quite possibly the worlds biggest shitbox of antivirus. It's ranked closely with McAfee.. I suppose Norton is better because in addition to being a bloated POS that uses 10gb of memory and makes internet explorer run like snail shit, it catches viruses. McAfee only does the first part.
It's all about KASPERSKY! I love the Kaspersky. Small foot print, fast, not intrusive, not full of shit programming.
That shit fucks EVERYTHING up. It inserts itself into the registry w/ the winlogon call; so it's a total bitch to get out. It fucks up all of the file type associations and shell/explorer actions.
It's a lot of fun when you hit task manager and it's disabled by the administrator[virus].
Or when you goto start -> run -> explorer.exe and get %1- somefuckingasserror
Or when you double click my computer and get some fatal explorer error
Frustrating as shit, but i've never had issues w/ Vista... and i'm running Win7 now.. no issues there.
Make sure he never turns User Account Control off.. it sounds like he'll fuxor it up again.
It's easier to get the "FREE" antivirus on XP than it is on Vista I think; assuming the security isn't turned down to "fuckmeup" level.
Also, Norton is quite possibly the worlds biggest shitbox of antivirus. It's ranked closely with McAfee.. I suppose Norton is better because in addition to being a bloated POS that uses 10gb of memory and makes internet explorer run like snail shit, it catches viruses. McAfee only does the first part.
It's all about KASPERSKY! I love the Kaspersky. Small foot print, fast, not intrusive, not full of shit programming.
These are problems I've seen in other versions of Windows as well. This problem is not Vista's fault, it's the fault of a virus/malware application that was accidentally installed by the end user. It's an Autorun exploit and I've seen it happen with Windows XP as well.
I am a network/systems admin. for a mid sized school district, and although we do not use Vista (we're still 100% XP on our Windows boxes) and I do not particularly care for Vista (for other reasons), the problems you've encountered are not unique to Vista and I do have to side with Vista on this one.
I also have to agree that Norton is crap. It's been going downhill for years. We use Symantec's corporate virus protection software and it's okay (though, if I had a say in what AV protection we used we wouldn't be using it)...it's much less resource intensive than Norton AV that's for sure. Once this computer has been restored, use something else! My favorite is avast! Home Edition (you need to go through a free and simple registration for a license key) and AVG Free is a close second.
I am a network/systems admin. for a mid sized school district, and although we do not use Vista (we're still 100% XP on our Windows boxes) and I do not particularly care for Vista (for other reasons), the problems you've encountered are not unique to Vista and I do have to side with Vista on this one.
I also have to agree that Norton is crap. It's been going downhill for years. We use Symantec's corporate virus protection software and it's okay (though, if I had a say in what AV protection we used we wouldn't be using it)...it's much less resource intensive than Norton AV that's for sure. Once this computer has been restored, use something else! My favorite is avast! Home Edition (you need to go through a free and simple registration for a license key) and AVG Free is a close second.
Last edited by thunder04; Jul 9, 2009 at 06:55 PM.
Symantec acquired norton forever ago but the name is still around

Back in the day Nortons stuff was the shit - everyone was trying to get ahold of it, with the speeddisk, the little whatever program with the stop lights.. now...... :vomits:

Back in the day Nortons stuff was the shit - everyone was trying to get ahold of it, with the speeddisk, the little whatever program with the stop lights.. now...... :vomits:
NAV has gone pretty simple with the current version, I have never had a problem using NAV and I really like that they have made the footprint smaller. I have it running on three machines.
Actually it's there Internet Security program.
Actually it's there Internet Security program.
My wife with Windows, malware paradise. My wife and OS X for the last 3-4 year, not a single problem. That sold me. I am convinced that computer illiterate people should not run Windows. OS X is worth the price premium for those users.

My Vista laptop and my kids' XP laptop both have Kaspersky Antivirus, Malwarebytes' AntiMalware, Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D.
Vista does use lots of RAM compared to XP, though.









