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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:28 AM
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Steve Jobs: "I'm going to destroy Android"



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Though we all knew it, now we have it in writing: Steve Jobs really hated Android, according to his biography, which will hit store shelves on October 24. Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson is said to detail what Jobs really thought about the competition, according to the AP, who purchased a copy before its official release.

"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong... I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
Jobs was said to be livid when HTC introduced one of its first Android phones, which he believed took popular iPhone features and passed them of as its own. Jobs was so angry, in fact, that when approached by Google's Eric Schmidt to settle the lawsuits, he refused.

"I don't want your money... I want you to stop using our ideas in Android..."
It is always interesting to see the other side of the story, and in this case, the fundamental anger from Apple and Jobs himself driving the lawsuits against top Android manufacturers today.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Thanks goodness for the competition...or we wouldn't be where we are today!
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Was Steve Jobs also mad at HP? IBM? Xerox? You know, the people he "borrowed" from?
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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well... at least android phones have removable batteries and memory cards. maybe he should have copied that feature from them
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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From the man who stole ideas himself....
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Was Steve Jobs also mad at HP? IBM? Xerox? You know, the people he "borrowed" from?

+1 million times!
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Pimp, that's against Apple's closed architecture policy. This is the only reason why I was never an Apple fanboy. However, they led to some amazing new innovations in design and efficiency, which is A+ in my book.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PimpCL23
well... at least android phones have removable batteries and memory cards. maybe he should have copied that feature from them
That goes against Apples policy of making disposable products.

Once the battery goes out, you're expected to buy a new device.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Steve stole all sorts of ideas from Xerox PARC...

Without that theft there never would have been a Macintosh as we know it.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:03 AM
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From what I've read here and there, it seems Steve Jobs was a brilliant innovator and well regarded businessman, but lacked on personal skills.

He was supposedly difficult to work for and work under. I don't think he had many close personal relationships. I find it telling that after his death, I heard a lot of "the world lost a true genius" but not once did I hear "I've lost a friend" from any close industry people.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by wackjum
From what I've read here and there, it seems Steve Jobs was a brilliant innovator and well regarded businessman, but lacked on personal skills.

He was supposedly difficult to work for and work under. I don't think he had many close personal relationships. I find it telling that after his death, I heard a lot of "the world lost a true genius" but not once did I hear "I've lost a friend" from any close industry people.
Tell it like it is Wakjum
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Maybe his hatred of Android killed him in the end.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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Maybe his hatred of Android killed him in the end.
Or maybe an Android finally finished the job. :toosoon?:
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Was Steve Jobs also mad at HP? IBM? Xerox? You know, the people he "borrowed" from?
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From the man who stole ideas himself....
Originally Posted by coykiam
+1 million times!
Absolutely
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 11:59 AM
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He's a dick
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by silver3.5
Thanks goodness for the competition...or we wouldn't be where we are today!
Another way to look at it is, "Thanks goodness for the ideas we've taken from the competition.........or Apple wouldn't be where it is today".

Hypocritical megalomaniac.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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not to mention all the stuff that got stolen from Pocket PC lol
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Fuck, if only we had a thread where we could discuss this asshole.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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jeez everyone turned on him real quick haha
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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jeez everyone turned on him real quick haha
Well, that's sometimes the case. Once someone dies, all the skeletons come out.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Yeah, a week ago he was a legend and one of the greatest people to ever set foot on this planet. Now hes a genius with horrible social skills and had the mind of an evil genius
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick_TL-S
Well, that's sometimes the case. Once someone dies, all the skeletons come out.
This is why I'm never dieing.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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'Turning' means you actually liked him in the first place.

I loved my Apple IIe, various Ipods, Itouches etc, but when Android did everything an Iphone could do and wasn't as regulated by a corporate giant, I went to Android.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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...and to add, this guy talked smack about Bill Gates, but apparently he didn't mind taking 150 Million from Bill.

I think we truly lost an innovator, but the guy was a dick.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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awesome thread
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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I think Jobs has been given too much credit for the success of Apple. Because the devs and engineers who actually made gestures work didn't do anything. Jobs was the marketing genius in front of a huge team of talented people. Jobs could sell ice cubes to an Eskimo and that is all he could have done if it weren't for the engineers cowering in the corner.

All Jobs did is manage to erase any sense of independence and free choice of the public by presenting monochromatic product wearing monochromatic clothes on a monochromatic stage. The 4 million lemmings who lined up last week for a 4Gs are color blind robots with no free will... And they like it that way.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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Steve Jobs was an android?
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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So... Not too soon?
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by invisiblewar
Yeah, a week ago he was a legend and one of the greatest people to ever set foot on this planet. Now hes a genius with horrible social skills and had the mind of an evil genius

I think there are many that feel about Jobs now also felt the same while he was living. My personal feeling he was a marketer, often ignoring those that assisted him and refusing to acknowledge the ideas of those which eventually found their way into Apple products. He created an entity and marketed it to a generation that were made to feel it was a required component of their lives. In a business respect I applaud him, but his refusal to admit or acknowledge that his products were often a cumulation of ideas pioneered by others assures that the only Apple products I will ever purchase are MacBooks.

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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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...and to add, this guy talked smack about Bill Gates, but apparently he didn't mind taking 150 Million from Bill.

I think we truly lost an innovator, but the guy was a dick.

So true
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:40 PM
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Fuck, if only we had a thread where we could discuss this asshole.
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I hated apple for years...seemed just so arrogant, and hated the fan boy culture. But, hands down they did some AMAZING engineering feats that people can only hope to copy. Tablets were out YEARS ago, but they're only supremly popular now because of apple. And, after LAUGHING at the people dying for an IPhone just a few years back, I now have one...

You could say the Apple took me kicking and screaming to heaven, and I think the core reason for that was Jobs' obsession (yep engineers did the work, but it was probably his unrealistic expectations and attention to detail that helped to deliver the products)
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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what amazing engineering feats? MP3 player? I think not as they were 3 years late Mp3man was first HDD MP3 player? I think not as Compaq was first...Iphone? I think not as Windows mobile and phones with MP3 players and cameras were already present.

Apple is marketing and NOTHING else they sold a whole not of suckers on marketing and that was it......

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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
what amazing engineering feats? MP3 player? I think not as they were 3 years late Mp3man was first HDD MP3 player? I think not as Compaq was first...Iphone? I think not as Windows mobile and phones with MP3 players and cameras were already present.

Apple is marketing and NOTHING else they sold a whole not of suckers on marketing and that was it......
Another ignorant ass comment from you....
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Old Oct 21, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Another ignorant ass comment from you....
Which part of what he said is not true? Just wondering, not arguing...
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It's not untrue (well his last statement is) it just completely misses the point behind the success at apple. It's not about doing it first it's about doing it better than anyone else. Compare ease of use of Windows Mobile to iOS

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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Which part of what he said is not true? Just wondering, not arguing...
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