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Old 11-04-2007, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I'm doing this on a homebuilt system

So yes, its originally XP and now I'm adding Leopard

I could've sworn somewhere you said you had a MBP or iMac...
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
I could've sworn somewhere you said you had a MBP or iMac...
MBP, but its "her" laptop
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Well, using my XP SP1 CD key on an XP SP2 installation did not work. This bugs me because technically speaking I have a license for XP which can be udpated for free to XP SP2. So I don't see why they don't allow the older licenses to work with the new installation discs because if you ever have the issue I have where you have your key but no CD, how would you get around that problem unless you get that CD again.

Anyway, so I'm going to try the slipstream method....

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...slipstream.asp
I can send you a crack.
Same shit happened to my moms Dell and it said we used her serial too many times (I reformat PC's in the house about 1 time a year just to clean up) if you want it I can send it to you tonight...About to head out. I think if you paid for it you should be able to use it as many times as you want
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
MBP, but its "her" laptop

Ahhhh..... Gotcha..
Old 11-04-2007, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JJ4Short
I can send you a crack.
Same shit happened to my moms Dell and it said we used her serial too many times (I reformat PC's in the house about 1 time a year just to clean up) if you want it I can send it to you tonight...About to head out. I think if you paid for it you should be able to use it as many times as you want
No worries, I followed the instructions on that link I posted and created my own XP install disc that included SP2 and it worked like a charm.

Thanks to doopstr for the recommendation to use slipstream!

I'm posting from my MacBook right now running XP. Now I'm going through the process of installing all my programs and doing all the updates.
Old 11-05-2007, 09:27 PM
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Ok so I got a simple question in which I really hope there is an answer. I want to MOVE but NOT COPY a file from one folder to another in OS X, how do I do it? By default if you drag n drop a file in OS X it copies and doesn't MOVE the file which leaves me with a duplicate in the original location which I have to delete. If I cmd + X a file it stills copies it, if I select the file I want and choose Edit from the Menu bar the cut option is greyed out while and the copy is active!! I really don't get this, why MUST I copy instead of MOVE a file.
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By default if you go from one disk to another it will copy. Hold down the apple button to move.

By default if you go from one folder to another on the same disk it will move. Hold down the option button to copy.
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Originally Posted by doopstr
By default if you go from one disk to another it will copy. Hold down the apple button to move.

By default if you go from one folder to another on the same disk it will move. Hold down the option button to copy.
I knew it, I was gonna edit my post to ask this but safari went crazy and none of the links worked. I knew there had to be some sort of button I hold down and it would work, I was trying but I guess I didn't try the right buttons. Thanx doopstr. REPS for you!!
Old 11-05-2007, 10:19 PM
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there is a leopard bug that can cause you to lose both sides of the data when moving files. J suggest copying and simply manually deleting when youre done until apple addresses the bug.
Old 11-06-2007, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by astro
there is a leopard bug that can cause you to lose both sides of the data when moving files. J suggest copying and simply manually deleting when youre done until apple addresses the bug.
WOW that's not good!! Then I'll copy from now on. I was moving a 7gb folder to the external drive and it worked good. Do you have a link for info on that bug?
Old 11-06-2007, 11:55 AM
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Just an FYI, just got the leopard upgrade today and installed without a hitch on my work ppc g5. I did the upgrade, not a clean install just for testing. I will be doing a clean install shortly though.
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Just a question...if I bought the 5 user 'family pack' of Leopard, could 4 of my friends and I share it?
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^technically yes, legally no.
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if u live in the same house, you could do it legally
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is there any way they attempt to keep track of it or no?
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Originally Posted by doopstr
^technically yes, legally no.
shit, technically you should be able to buy the single user and install it on all the macs you come across. OS X still doesn't have activation codes. I remember in the powerPC days everytime I got a new mac I'd take the OS disc that came with it and install OS X on all the other macs. The last time I did this was with Panther (10.3) but when I got these new macs the Macbook and iMac a few days ago when I tried to take the OS install disc from the iMac and load tiger on the macbook it wouldn't let me and said it couldn't be installed on this computer. When I put in the disc that came with the macbook it worked fine but the retail copies of leopard shouldn't be machine specific and since they don't require activation it should install on any mac you come across.

I know Quicktime Pro requires an activation code and I've used that on many machines and I've never had a problem with it.
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Good ole' quicktime pro patch, I've been using the same one forever. Apple doesn't seem to change it for some reason.
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Does anyone know of a way or a hack to get the eject button on the keyboard to eject a disc when you're using windows on the MacBook?

it's annoying having to open up My Computer to eject a disc all the time.
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I also found my first issue with Windows running on my MacBook Pro.

Currently the resolution on XP is set to 1440 x 900. I tried setting it to 1920 x 1200 just to see what it would look like.

Well, it changed the resolution, but it didn't map it properly to the size of the screen, so I had to scroll to get to the other portions of the screen.

Anyone know why it did this? Is there a way to fix it so that it matches the resolution to the size of the screen?

The reason I wanted to see why the 1920 x 1200 would work is just because it is the aspect same ratio as the 1440 x 900.
Old 11-07-2007, 11:34 AM
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^^^ What's the point of even trying to run at more than native resolution?
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^^^ What's the point of even trying to run at more than native resolution?
Just plain curiousity, I wouldn't keep it at that, just wanted to see what it would look like.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Does anyone know of a way or a hack to get the eject button on the keyboard to eject a disc when you're using windows on the MacBook?

it's annoying having to open up My Computer to eject a disc all the time.
UH there shouldn't be a hack at all. It works fine on my macbook in Vista. Have you installed the drivers from the Leopard disc after booting into windows?

and no there's no way to make 1920x1200 screen fit into 1440x900 screen. That's like asking a man with a size 40 waist to fit into size 32 jeans, it ain't happening.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
UH there shouldn't be a hack at all. It works fine on my macbook in Vista. Have you installed the drivers from the Leopard disc after booting into windows?
I have installed all the necessary drivers from the leopard disc.

Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
and no there's no way to make 1920x1200 screen fit into 1440x900 screen. That's like asking a man with a size 40 waist to fit into size 32 jeans, it ain't happening.


On my HP laptop running XP Pro, if I choose a different screen resolution it resizes the screen if the proportions don't match the native resolution and squeezes/strethces it to fit on the screen even if it's not the native resolution. it was odd that it didn't do that on here, but I guess that's dependent on the drivers.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I have installed all the necessary drivers from the leopard disc.





On my HP laptop running XP Pro, if I choose a different screen resolution it resizes the screen if the proportions don't match the native resolution and squeezes/strethces it to fit on the screen even if it's not the native resolution. it was odd that it didn't do that on here, but I guess that's dependent on the drivers.
IDK the eject button works fine for me in Vista.

yeah if the screen resolution is smaller it can do that. Like if you took an 800x600 resolution and put it on your 1440x900 screen it would look out of focus and annoying. but you can't make a bigger one into a smaller screen. Everytime I've tried to put a bigger resolution on a monitor it would either just go black and display nothing, or might give a warning saying the resolution isn't supported by the monitor, or it might display it while only showing 1440 of the 1920 pixels and 900 of the 1200 pixels.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
IDK the eject button works fine for me in Vista.


I wonder if it's just an XP thing?

I hit it quite a few times and nothing happened. I also tried hitting fn+Eject and nothing happened.
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I found a weird issue with my clock in OSX.

If I do not have a network connection available and I switch between windows and OSX, OSX no longer remembers the time and it puts in some arbitrary time (not sure where it is getting it).

Any of you seen that problem?

When I have a network connection it's no biggie because it syncs it up.
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Apple just updated their site for the MacBook Pros. You can now get them with a 2.6 Core 2 duo (mine came with the 2.4), and you can get a 200GB 7200rpm drive (mine is a 160GB drive).

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Oh and forgot to mention, they come with Leopard pre-installed.
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread....26886&tstart=0

Well I got an answer last night about why the time is not set properly when using XP and Boot Camp.

It's because Boot Camp can't handle it, probably because XP and OSX set time information differently.

So, you have to manually set your time EVERYTIME you switch operating systems if you do NOT have an internet connection to synchronize the time.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.h...en/bc1145.html


So those of you running Boot Camp and XP, until this is fixed, just remember to change your time.


I hope they can come up with a workaround or a fix for this.
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In the Apple thread you mentioned that you had tried network time syncing. How did you have this set up? Was it with the NET TIME /SETSNTP command?

What's really wierd about this is that when an XP machine is a member of a Windows domain, the time it recieves from the Windows network environment is Universal Time which the machine then locally offsets according to the configured time zone. Even if you login locally without a network connection, the time shouldn't drift by more than a minute or two from the last synced value.

I was thinking that maybe if you manually configured time sync with the NET TIME command, then XP's time behavior might be similar to a domain membership config.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
In the Apple thread you mentioned that you had tried network time syncing. How did you have this set up? Was it with the NET TIME /SETSNTP command?

What's really wierd about this is that when an XP machine is a member of a Windows domain, the time it recieves from the Windows network environment is Universal Time which the machine then locally offsets according to the configured time zone. Even if you login locally without a network connection, the time shouldn't drift by more than a minute or two from the last synced value.

I was thinking that maybe if you manually configured time sync with the NET TIME command, then XP's time behavior might be similar to a domain membership config.
Within XP I was synchronizing the time by using the "Internet Time" tab in the "Date and Time Properties" dialog box. I used the default NTP server which is time.windows.com, but could very easily change it to time.apple.com so that both OSX and XP use the same time server. I do not know if the NET TIME command you mentioned is the same as the GUI "Internet Time" method.

Even still, if I configured the NET TIME, I don't know if it changes the format of the time based on Universal Time.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true
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Leopard 10.5.1 is now available

http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/15/l...now-available/

http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...051update.html
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And on a related note the forever-in-the-works 10.4.11 update came out yesterday. I hope they fixed whatever it was they broke with wireless authentication in 10.4.10.
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^^^ they came out with the leopard update rather quick. I guess they wanted to shut all those folks up that were complaining about a new OS with multiple problems.
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^^^ they came out with the leopard update rather quick. I guess they wanted to shut all those folks up that were complaining about a new OS with multiple problems.

HAHA!! well they caused more problems with the .1 update. I just installed the update and now when I try to open safari it says you can't use safari with this version of OS X. I'm running (or was) safari 3.0.5.
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HAHA!! well they caused more problems with the .1 update. I just installed the update and now when I try to open safari it says you can't use safari with this version of OS X. I'm running (or was) safari 3.0.5.
Just spent 2 hours on the phone with Apple trying to get safari to launch. No go!! Now I'm doing an archive and install of leopard 10.5.0. The tech guy said he wasn't to happy with this update and that it was causing more problems than it solved.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Just spent 2 hours on the phone with Apple trying to get safari to launch. No go!! Now I'm doing an archive and install of leopard 10.5.0. The tech guy said he wasn't to happy with this update and that it was causing more problems than it solved.
why not use something like firefox and wait to see if its a bug that they address or better yet, use firefox and trash safari
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everything is working fine for me now.
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Well technically it wasn't me on the phone but that's what I said. Actually I'd would've just restored from a time machine backup instead of doing an archive and install. Would've been much easier.


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