Update:

The 1817 is working well for me, and I am slowly adopting more of its capabilities.

My backup plan is working, albeit slowly. I am using Hyperbackup to backup the main NAS to an offsite NAS. My connection at the main site is 100/10 and the connection at the remote site is ~400/400 fiber. As a result, the hyperbackups take several days (I currently have a total of 14TB in the main NAS) because data set additions to the main NAS can top 1.5TB at a time.

Originally, I had planned to extract individual data sets from the remote NAS and then upload them to Glacier for long term storage, but the extraction process takes as long if not longer than simply copying the data from the main NAS to a HDD, bringing that drive to the remote site and uploading to Glacier. I then delete then leave the copy of the data on the HDD as a further backup and delete the data from the Main NAS. As a result, I end up with the data archived to a HDD as well as Glacier.

 

Yea, I still love my 1815.

Running strong after 3+ years.

I did shut it down recently and took an air can to it. It had acquired a lot of dust bunnies...

 

Anyone running a hyperconverged solution at their place of work.

if so which one.

We have been running Nutanix for 4 years now. It has come along way in that time.

 

A coworker is using a Dell VRTX at his site (large school district) and he seems happy with it but his workload is pretty minimal since school's are becoming more and more focused on simple to deploy cloud devices. I worked for EMC so I've been kinda programmed to have the impression that VCE (VxRAIL, VxRACK, VxBLOCK, etc.) is the enterprise benchmark. I know there's plenty more, but those are really all I'm familiar with.

 

Anyone else running a Synology box with btfrs? Have a question about "Advanced Data Integrity Protection".

 

Welp, the DS416J for offsite storage of the Synology Hyperbackups from the DS1817+ isn't cutting the mustard... Not able to to have volumes over 16TB, etc...

Planning on picking up a DS918+ to replace it.

 

That is too bad. The DS918+ though looks like a really good system. I know you were probably trying to save some money using the 416.

 

I need to figure out why my desktop isn't staying up on my UPS that my NAS is the primary on. Even plugged into the ports that say controlled by primary it just instantly loses power which is terrible. It should be powerful enough to hold them both 8-12min which is all I need as I am only looking into it for power blips which we seem to have more often where I live lately. Hoping to not need to buy a second UPS. I can get another for only $150 but I would rather not have too.

 

Yup, and it was a proof of concept, so I know the system will work. I can re purpose the 416 on-site for system backups, etc.

 

Just ordered the 918+... Should be here next week.

 

918+ up and running. I decided not to do HyperBackup to a remote location. It was taking too long. the 918 is now the local target for the HyperBackup, and I will upload data to glacier as needed for offsite long term storage.

 

Nice Stogie.

I am still running my 1812+
It works great. I was thinking about upgrading and moving all my VM's to it

 

Thanks! Overall I am very happy with both units. The 416J that used to be the offsite HyperBackup target will now be on-site for local machine backups, etc...

 

 

Miz, I am interested in what you think about the G-Drive unit.

I am currently sitting here deleting old data (that has been backed up to Glacier) off my 21TB NAS. I hit about 18TB used and needed to make some space.

 

 

 

 

Dear Synology, GFYS...

I am getting really tired of deleting massive amounts of data to make room on the volume, only to have the device show ZERO increase in available space.

There is a whole thread about it at the Synology forums, but never a solution from Synology.

 

I have a 4tb mycloud... works great. Not sure how g-tech is, but the biggest happy surprise I had was the software that allows for sharing easily.

I want to get another 4tb mycloud and set it up as a mirror.

 

shit, they have a new version now and the price on the one I got has doubled

 

 

Can't set it up as a cloud?

 

 

I never thought about it before I bought it, but I use it all the time to look up pictures or whatever when I'm out... Also share movies I've dl'ed with friends.

 

 

 

Synology Users:

I am using the USB copy app to copy some files off the NAS (1817+) to a USB drive, but setting up a "job" each time seems overly complicated. Is there an easy way to copy files to a USB drive for transfer?

Obviously, I am trying to avoid passing the data through the switch for better throughput.

 

So you are trying to just copy files and not use the actually synology backup app to backup a part of your NAS?

 

Egg-Zachary.

I have a 100/20 coax internet connection at the office and a 40/40 fiber at home, so when I need to upload large data sets to Amazon Glacier, I copy them to from the NAS to a USB3 hdd connected to a machine on the network the NAS is on, take the hdd home and connect it to a computer and upload to Glacier from there at a much faster rate.

I am looking to make the initial copy process to hdd faster by removing the network connection between the NAS and the machine used to make the copy and trying to simply copy some data from the NAS directly to a USB3 HDD.

 

Finally broke down and got a PCIe USB 3.0 card after I couldn't get my ESXi server to pass through my external hard drive to Windows Server (worked once for a while, stopped after moving it to my basement since it stays a lot cooler in the summer). Can finally run scheduled backups of my NAS and makes me a lot more comfortable to switch to all my storage being network-based once I replace my MacBook Pro with an iMac this year. Found a program called Z-DBackup since Veeam wouldn't work on NAS shares. Maybe I'll mess around with iSCSI on FreeNAS later on but this works fine for now.

Also been meaning to give Data Domain VE a try since you can run the trial up to 500GB for an indefinite time (need to add some more storage to my ESXi host for the boot, journal, and data volumes). Would be good to trial for my 13-inch MacBook Pro that I don't have dedicated backups of since I don't have anything important on it.

 

Are you always trying to copy the same folders or files? If so I believe you can still use the backup utility to do this and not have it try and compress into a backup file.

 

That;s the thing, it would be different ones each time.

I collect large amounts of data specific to each project I work on. That data gets backed up to a backup NAS (onsite), but I also want to copy it out to a USB drive and bring it home to upload to Glacier on my fiber connection. Each week, conceivably, there could be a whole new set of data in a different folder for a new project on the NAS that needs to be backed up.

 

So a department at work has a separate NAS system for their data instead of using our regular EMC Unity storage files shares. They are currently running an older Netgear ReadyNAS system that was installed before I started. These systems contain critical data that is captured on a private network from vendor based equipment that we won't let on our business network. The storage system is connected to both a private network and a regular business network through a firewall. There is one service account allowed to access this data to back it up to our EMC Unity Systems. There is also a second duplicate NAS that makes a mirror of this data each night. We are currently doing workstation upgrades and finally moving to Windows10. I learned on Thursday when we got one of these workstations to start testing stuff that this NAS system is so old it only runs SMB1 and there is no firmware upgrade that gets it even up to SMB2 or SMB3. If you don't know but Windows10 disables use of SMB1 due to Malware/Ransomeware threats that can take advantage of it. Our cybersecurity group will not give an exception for us to enable SMB1 on the Win10 machines that this group uses and I am glad they don't since we support this system and I don't want that risk of being blamed for anything that happens because of using that at this point.

I am currently shopping for new systems. It is used only as a NAS nothing else runs on it. The current system has 4x500GB dries and 1024MB ram. My suggestion for an upgrade is to get Synolgoy RS818+ with 4x1TB WD Gold Drives. They didn't bulk at the price of the hardware at all. They could possibly be fine though with an RS816 but I feel it could be a hard sell since the hardware specs are basically the same as what they already have other than the fact it is newer and has software support. I am suggesting Synology over other systems mainly just cause I have home use experience with it and setting it up will be easier for me.

Comments, suggestions of other things I might not be thinking of that are out there as far as solutions or upgrades?

 

As far as software support I have to admit I am shocked how long Synology supports their devices. I have a DS411J, which I consider old, and I just installed DSM 6.2 on it.

 

Anyone running 10GBASE-T copper/rj45?
I am thinking of picking up:

1x Buffalo 8port 10G switch

3x Intel 10G network cards



The NIC is on the approved list for the Synology 1817+ that I have, so for about $1500, I could have 10G speeds between my NAS and two production W7Pro workstations that read/write a lot of data to/from the NAS.

Any thoughts or anything I am forgetting?

 

I haven't mostly because all of my end devices are running on WiFi. These aren't the most professional videos, but at least they give a glimpse of the setup and some troubleshooting he had to go through even though the storage is Windows Server based.

 

OMG that guys is annoying to listen to, but good info, thanks for posting it.

 

not for home, unless you are running all ssd in the device 10g really isn't worth it.
you are better off just using the 4 ports on the device with different vlans and having 1 for each of your machines, much cheaper solution

 

Gotcha, my NAS is full of spinning platter (7200rpm) drives. I am sure that this will become the bottleneck, but as SSD prices drop (and capacity increases), it will become more feasible for me to begin swapping out the rotating drives for SSDs.

In the mean time, I am stuck with CIFS shares, since I need multiple machines to be able to access the same data at once. Otherwise, I would go the route of iSCSI.

I currently have all four NIC ports on the NAS teamed in LAG on the switch, but real world transfer speeds aren't amazing me.

Since I am stuck with CIFS, I figured I would at least get rid of the network speed bottleneck...