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The 1817 is working well for me, and I am slowly adopting more of its capabilities.
My backup plan is working, albeit slowly. I am using Hyperbackup to backup the main NAS to an offsite NAS. My connection at the main site is 100/10 and the connection at the remote site is ~400/400 fiber. As a result, the hyperbackups take several days (I currently have a total of 14TB in the main NAS) because data set additions to the main NAS can top 1.5TB at a time.
Originally, I had planned to extract individual data sets from the remote NAS and then upload them to Glacier for long term storage, but the extraction process takes as long if not longer than simply copying the data from the main NAS to a HDD, bringing that drive to the remote site and uploading to Glacier. I then delete then leave the copy of the data on the HDD as a further backup and delete the data from the Main NAS. As a result, I end up with the data archived to a HDD as well as Glacier.
Anyone running a hyperconverged solution at their place of work.
if so which one.
We have been running Nutanix for 4 years now. It has come along way in that time.
A coworker is using a Dell VRTX at his site (large school district) and he seems happy with it but his workload is pretty minimal since school's are becoming more and more focused on simple to deploy cloud devices. I worked for EMC so I've been kinda programmed to have the impression that VCE (VxRAIL, VxRACK, VxBLOCK, etc.) is the enterprise benchmark. I know there's plenty more, but those are really all I'm familiar with.
Welp, the DS416J for offsite storage of the Synology Hyperbackups from the DS1817+ isn't cutting the mustard... Not able to to have volumes over 16TB, etc...
I need to figure out why my desktop isn't staying up on my UPS that my NAS is the primary on. Even plugged into the ports that say controlled by primary it just instantly loses power which is terrible. It should be powerful enough to hold them both 8-12min which is all I need as I am only looking into it for power blips which we seem to have more often where I live lately. Hoping to not need to buy a second UPS. I can get another for only $150 but I would rather not have too.
918+ up and running. I decided not to do HyperBackup to a remote location. It was taking too long. the 918 is now the local target for the HyperBackup, and I will upload data to glacier as needed for offsite long term storage.
Thanks! Overall I am very happy with both units. The 416J that used to be the offsite HyperBackup target will now be on-site for local machine backups, etc...
so a year later I finally got a new external raid drive.
i ended up with a new open box g-technology 8TB drive with thunderbolt 2 for $332.
i would've went with the Western Digital one, but I got turned off by the nightmare some people had with it since you can't turn off the hardware encryption.
Something about if the enclosure itself dies. The drives can't be accessed with a different enclosure since they're encrypted. Something like that.
Originally Posted by Mizouse
I know this is about NAS, but any recommendations for just Thunderbolt / USB3.0 attached storage?
I do need something that can support at least 2 drives and have hardware Raid 1.
Getting tired of booting up my old PC so I can connect to it with my Mac Mini just so I can store stuff or retrieve stuff i have stored on it.
uhh... why is the link changing over to eBay? im linking B&H
Originally Posted by Mizouse
hmm.... dunno, just figured id go with Thunderbolt because Mac/Apple.
USB3.0 should be more than enough for my needs. My primary use is storage of all my media. Mainly a spot for my photos I take and for editing in Lightroom or Photoshop.
Miz, I am interested in what you think about the G-Drive unit.
I am currently sitting here deleting old data (that has been backed up to Glacier) off my 21TB NAS. I hit about 18TB used and needed to make some space.
Miz, I am interested in what you think about the G-Drive unit.
I am currently sitting here deleting old data (that has been backed up to Glacier) off my 21TB NAS. I hit about 18TB used and needed to make some space.
I mainly got it because I got sick and tired of having to boot up my old 2006 PC and connect to it with my Mac Mini just to access all my files.
also I always have to remember to manually switch my Macs connection to the Ethernet port and disable wifi because connecting to my PC via wifi has a REALLLLY slow transfer speeds. importing just a few RAW images off an SD card would take hours
With the Ethernet connection the xfer speed is around 90MB/sec
I get so lazy to boot up my PC that I don't bother editing my images.
I am getting really tired of deleting massive amounts of data to make room on the volume, only to have the device show ZERO increase in available space.
There is a whole thread about it at the Synology forums, but never a solution from Synology.
Miz, I am interested in what you think about the G-Drive unit.
so I hooked it up last night. Connected it via Thunderbolt 1 on my Mac Mini 2012.
its kind of heavy but smaller than what I thought it was going to be.
The noise from the fans is a little bit noisy compared to my Mac Mini which almost always runs with the fans off unless I'm importing or exporting pictures and videos.
fan noise is definitely a lot quieter than my old desktop PC.
out of the box it comes setup as Raid 0. Wasn't expecting it, but in the raid 0 setup I was getting just under 400MB/sec transfer speeds.
downloaded the G-RAID utiltiy and then converted it to Raid 1. Transfer speeds are around 160MB/sec.
So far so good.
my only complaint is that it is a little bit slow to start back up after waking up my computer from sleeping.
I never thought about it before I bought it, but I use it all the time to look up pictures or whatever when I'm out... Also share movies I've dl'ed with friends.
I am using the USB copy app to copy some files off the NAS (1817+) to a USB drive, but setting up a "job" each time seems overly complicated. Is there an easy way to copy files to a USB drive for transfer?
Obviously, I am trying to avoid passing the data through the switch for better throughput.
So you are trying to just copy files and not use the actually synology backup app to backup a part of your NAS?
Egg-Zachary.
I have a 100/20 coax internet connection at the office and a 40/40 fiber at home, so when I need to upload large data sets to Amazon Glacier, I copy them to from the NAS to a USB3 hdd connected to a machine on the network the NAS is on, take the hdd home and connect it to a computer and upload to Glacier from there at a much faster rate.
I am looking to make the initial copy process to hdd faster by removing the network connection between the NAS and the machine used to make the copy and trying to simply copy some data from the NAS directly to a USB3 HDD.
Finally broke down and got a PCIe USB 3.0 card after I couldn't get my ESXi server to pass through my external hard drive to Windows Server (worked once for a while, stopped after moving it to my basement since it stays a lot cooler in the summer). Can finally run scheduled backups of my NAS and makes me a lot more comfortable to switch to all my storage being network-based once I replace my MacBook Pro with an iMac this year. Found a program called Z-DBackup since Veeam wouldn't work on NAS shares. Maybe I'll mess around with iSCSI on FreeNAS later on but this works fine for now.
Also been meaning to give Data Domain VE a try since you can run the trial up to 500GB for an indefinite time (need to add some more storage to my ESXi host for the boot, journal, and data volumes). Would be good to trial for my 13-inch MacBook Pro that I don't have dedicated backups of since I don't have anything important on it.
I have a 100/20 coax internet connection at the office and a 40/40 fiber at home, so when I need to upload large data sets to Amazon Glacier, I copy them to from the NAS to a USB3 hdd connected to a machine on the network the NAS is on, take the hdd home and connect it to a computer and upload to Glacier from there at a much faster rate.
I am looking to make the initial copy process to hdd faster by removing the network connection between the NAS and the machine used to make the copy and trying to simply copy some data from the NAS directly to a USB3 HDD.
Are you always trying to copy the same folders or files? If so I believe you can still use the backup utility to do this and not have it try and compress into a backup file.
Are you always trying to copy the same folders or files? If so I believe you can still use the backup utility to do this and not have it try and compress into a backup file.
That;s the thing, it would be different ones each time.
I collect large amounts of data specific to each project I work on. That data gets backed up to a backup NAS (onsite), but I also want to copy it out to a USB drive and bring it home to upload to Glacier on my fiber connection. Each week, conceivably, there could be a whole new set of data in a different folder for a new project on the NAS that needs to be backed up.
So a department at work has a separate NAS system for their data instead of using our regular EMC Unity storage files shares. They are currently running an older Netgear ReadyNAS system that was installed before I started. These systems contain critical data that is captured on a private network from vendor based equipment that we won't let on our business network. The storage system is connected to both a private network and a regular business network through a firewall. There is one service account allowed to access this data to back it up to our EMC Unity Systems. There is also a second duplicate NAS that makes a mirror of this data each night. We are currently doing workstation upgrades and finally moving to Windows10. I learned on Thursday when we got one of these workstations to start testing stuff that this NAS system is so old it only runs SMB1 and there is no firmware upgrade that gets it even up to SMB2 or SMB3. If you don't know but Windows10 disables use of SMB1 due to Malware/Ransomeware threats that can take advantage of it. Our cybersecurity group will not give an exception for us to enable SMB1 on the Win10 machines that this group uses and I am glad they don't since we support this system and I don't want that risk of being blamed for anything that happens because of using that at this point.
I am currently shopping for new systems. It is used only as a NAS nothing else runs on it. The current system has 4x500GB dries and 1024MB ram. My suggestion for an upgrade is to get Synolgoy RS818+ with 4x1TB WD Gold Drives. They didn't bulk at the price of the hardware at all. They could possibly be fine though with an RS816 but I feel it could be a hard sell since the hardware specs are basically the same as what they already have other than the fact it is newer and has software support. I am suggesting Synology over other systems mainly just cause I have home use experience with it and setting it up will be easier for me.
Comments, suggestions of other things I might not be thinking of that are out there as far as solutions or upgrades?
As far as software support I have to admit I am shocked how long Synology supports their devices. I have a DS411J, which I consider old, and I just installed DSM 6.2 on it.
The NIC is on the approved list for the Synology 1817+ that I have, so for about $1500, I could have 10G speeds between my NAS and two production W7Pro workstations that read/write a lot of data to/from the NAS.
Any thoughts or anything I am forgetting?
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The NIC is on the approved list for the Synology 1817+ that I have, so for about $1500, I could have 10G speeds between my NAS and two production W7Pro workstations that read/write a lot of data to/from the NAS.
Any thoughts or anything I am forgetting?
I haven't mostly because all of my end devices are running on WiFi. These aren't the most professional videos, but at least they give a glimpse of the setup and some troubleshooting he had to go through even though the storage is Windows Server based.
not for home, unless you are running all ssd in the device 10g really isn't worth it.
you are better off just using the 4 ports on the device with different vlans and having 1 for each of your machines, much cheaper solution
Gotcha, my NAS is full of spinning platter (7200rpm) drives. I am sure that this will become the bottleneck, but as SSD prices drop (and capacity increases), it will become more feasible for me to begin swapping out the rotating drives for SSDs.
In the mean time, I am stuck with CIFS shares, since I need multiple machines to be able to access the same data at once. Otherwise, I would go the route of iSCSI.
I currently have all four NIC ports on the NAS teamed in LAG on the switch, but real world transfer speeds aren't amazing me.
Since I am stuck with CIFS, I figured I would at least get rid of the network speed bottleneck...
08-28-2017, 12:15 PM
now the Ethernet card isn't showing up in the device manager.
